I have a nasty shoulder problem and really need to be sat completely upright, i test rode a GS 1200 today and loved it
This is why want Big Mac wants to do does not make since If Big Mac really wants Loz's FZS1000, he would be better off doing a deal with Loz as this prevents the risk of the dealer having a buyer lined for the FZS1000, especially one in the condition this one is in and extras it has, or have it shifted through the trade quickly. Plus the dealer will always give the standard value regardless of extras. 08 FZ6 S2 and 04 Fzs1000 are around the same money, and as Big Mac himself suggests a 08 looks better on the forecourt than a 04 especially with 2015 so close.Many larger dealers shift 10 years and older bikes through the trade and come 2015 the Fzs1000 will be bordering on 11 years old.Surprised that a Scot would want to give a dealer more money
Quote from: MEM62 on 24 November 2014, 04:01:17 pmQuote from: richfzs on 23 November 2014, 06:40:36 pmNever have a bmw without a warranty...I have had my R1200RT for almost two years (from new) and never had a single issue with it. It is every bit as reliable as my FZS1000. Your comparing a brand new specification BMW with low miles? with an old specification Yamaha with high miles?; Interesting comparsion
Quote from: richfzs on 23 November 2014, 06:40:36 pmNever have a bmw without a warranty...I have had my R1200RT for almost two years (from new) and never had a single issue with it. It is every bit as reliable as my FZS1000.
Never have a bmw without a warranty...
As for the BMW reliability, i have done my research and a few years ago i would have agreed.
I'm afraid your actually incorrect the previous twin cam engine bikes are the best, especially the twin cam gs. When it comes to reliability i take it you no all the problems that the new water cooled gs has ! 1-Corrosion issues on brand new bikes, resulting in replacement engines due to corrosion after 2k 2-Faulty ESA units, resulting in harsh suspension.3-faulty switch gear.4-cam chain lock up, results in replacement engine.5-early 13 bikes panniers did not fit, BMW bodge was to fit penny washer under the rear hangers, however some bikes had to have new rear subframes. 6-early 13 bikes frames with misaligned steering.7-rear brake pads down to metal in 2k, still ongoing problem 8-rough clunking gearbox even after several fixes its still the same.9-brand new bikes leaking water out of water pump hole, one particular bike had to have a new engine because of this and the reason why they could not fix it was the crank case was porous.10- clutch drag .Thats just 10 issues and there's plenty more problems as well. Reason why ! Because 70% of the manufacturing of components on the new generation bikes especially the GS water cooled are sourced from china .You will have to be very brave buying into the gs wc blind folded.
Dare I ask, how is the k1600 for issues.
Well done Exupnut - go to the top of the class.For the rest of you ...no he doesn't stand on the schoolhouse roofThe advantage being that the dealer gets two sales so he is moving metal, he replaces a 54 plate bike with a 58 (and a sweet one) on his forecourt. This may make them more amenable to a deal on the BMW also...simples...well for those of us with English as a first language!