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Re: This is NOT an attempt to start a discussion...
« Reply #375 on: 07 November 2019, 06:32:05 PM »
Neither of the two Green Party leaders are MP's and they're forming pacts with other parties to stand aside in certain constituencys in order to bolster the chances of a Remain candidate getting elected :rolleyes
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Re: This is NOT an attempt to start a discussion...
« Reply #376 on: 07 November 2019, 07:07:26 PM »

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Re: This is NOT an attempt to start a discussion...
« Reply #377 on: 07 November 2019, 08:08:35 PM »
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Neither of the two Green Party leaders are MP's and they're forming pacts with other parties to stand aside in certain constituencys in order to bolster the chances of a Remain candidate getting elected

Maybe, but the bit you've missed out is that the Green Party democratically elects its leader and its candidates. Farage has self appointed himself as leader of the Brexit Party, and its followers are not members, they are supporters. Nobody is allowed to vote for anybody. It's all Farage's say so. That's the irony.
At least UKIP is democratic. You can tell that because they change leaders more often than I change my socks  :lol

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« Reply #378 on: 07 November 2019, 08:09:55 PM »
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« Reply #379 on: 07 November 2019, 08:52:06 PM »
 Ah well, Johnson was up here in bonnie Scotland today.
And from what I can see on the news, he addressed a still room – that was it, Boris and 7 stills.  Why did he bother?

 

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« Reply #380 on: 07 November 2019, 08:53:16 PM »
Wow, its like a bidding war, unimaginable sums of money being bandied about. Doesn't work that that though does it. Billions for what? More bad ideas like HS2? Infrastructure projects. What and where? You need to acquire the land first, planning permission, design works, appoint contractors, they have to start to employ scarce labour, planning appeals, legal challenges etc etc etc. By the time of the next election, fuck all will have been built and billions will have disappeared into consultants pockets (HS2 anyone), and that's only a brief outline. We'll still be in the same boat in 5 years time.

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« Reply #381 on: 07 November 2019, 10:51:36 PM »
What's the the tally so far on Labours borrowing plans - something like £250b  :eek . That would mean all that suffering due to Austerity would of been for nothing and with zero gain.

The *only* gain under Austerity is for the rich mates of the Tory Party!

It's entirely a political manoeuvre to shift wealth from the plebs to the richest.

All the stuff about "balancing the books" or "bringing down the debt" is nonsense and it's comprehensively failed to even eliminate the deficit as we were promised would happen by 2015.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39897498

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« Reply #382 on: 07 November 2019, 11:20:57 PM »
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That would mean all that suffering due to Austerity would of been for nothing and with zero gain.

Can anybody remember what caused the austerity in the first place?
Was it the benefit claimants? - No
Was it the minimum wage? - No
Was it the unions striking for a fair wage? - No
Was it immigration? - No
Was it the EU? - No
It was some greedy bankers gambling with our money, losing and having to be bailed out, again with our money.
It's now payback time.

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« Reply #383 on: 08 November 2019, 07:14:10 AM »
If Boris has his way we'll be the 51st state of the USA.
Rampant homeless, pay as you go medical system and massive income inequality.
Unfortunately our economy isn't as large as the US so ordinary folks won't have anything near the relative wealth of the states population.

Treat everything in life the way a dog would- if you can't eat it or foc it, forget it.

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« Reply #384 on: 08 November 2019, 08:29:08 AM »
Blimey, the conspiracy theories are off the leash and running wild & free now :eek
You lot make Rick from The Young Ones look like a model of restraint :lol
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« Reply #385 on: 08 November 2019, 10:05:49 AM »
Whereas you lot are more like Alan B'Stard from 'The New Statesman'   :b

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Re: This is NOT an attempt to start a discussion...
« Reply #386 on: 08 November 2019, 04:37:11 PM »
Former Labour MP Ian Austin is urging people to vote Conservative as Jeremy Corbyn is completely unfit to be Prime Minister :lol

What he prefaced that remark with was "I wouldn't say that Boris Johnson is unfit to be our Prime Minister as I would about Jeremy Corbyn"

Not exactly a ringing endorsement of Boris!
This is from a piece written by Austin that's in the press today...
"Put simply, the Labour leader is completely unfit to be Prime Minister and must not be allowed anywhere near Downing Street"
...."While I am far from a natural Conservative, there is no doubt in my mind that in a contest between Corbyn and Johnson, the only choice is Johnson.
A vote for any party other than the Conservatives risks letting Corbyn into No.10.There is no doubt in my mind that Boris will fight racism at home, stand up to our enemies abroad, seek to get Brexit done and pursue a sensible economic policy. It saddens me that none of these things can be said of the Labour leader"
Sounds pretty emphatic to me :lol

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« Reply #387 on: 08 November 2019, 05:09:22 PM »
 Ian Austin was a Blairite.  He was appointed by Theresa May to the position of Prime Ministerial Trade Envoy to Israel.


He is not a man with any credibility.  The whole anti-Semitism row is about Jewish Zionist fears of a potential UK government that could be openly critical of Israel.  Anybody who dares to criticise Israel  is now being smeared as an anti-Semite.


And don’t even dare quote Shakespeare or ask for your pound of flesh – whoops here goes another;


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/08/gideon-bull-labour-candidate-pulls-out-of-election-over-shylock-remarks


This election get more and more silly by the minute.
 

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« Reply #388 on: 08 November 2019, 06:01:56 PM »
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That would mean all that suffering due to Austerity would of been for nothing and with zero gain.

Can anybody remember what caused the austerity in the first place?
It was some greedy bankers gambling with our money, losing and having to be bailed out, again with our money.
Yep all done under the last Labour government and Browns "light touch " regulation of the banking sector. And then the letter Labour left when they were kicked out of office "Im afraid there is no money left"
 Labour and Corbyn should NEVER be let anywhere near the UKs treasury again. 
 
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« Reply #389 on: 08 November 2019, 06:10:58 PM »
 
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Yep all done under the last Labour government and Browns "light touch " regulation of the banking sector.
Indeed, Brown’s ‘miracle’ economy, no more boom and bust.  New Labour = New Tories.
 

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« Reply #390 on: 08 November 2019, 11:16:46 PM »
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Labour and Corbyn should NEVER be let anywhere near the UKs treasury again. 
Corbyn was responsible? How?
And of course the Tories love tough regulations and lots of red tape. Especially building regulations for Tower blocks....

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Re: This is NOT an attempt to start a discussion...
« Reply #391 on: 08 November 2019, 11:26:26 PM »
.... and of course Johnson doesn't even understand his own deal he has agreed with the EU, concerning movement of goods between GB and NI. Johnson should NEVER be allowed anywhere near government again.

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« Reply #392 on: 08 November 2019, 11:53:55 PM »
So without meaning to start a discussion, what are peoples views about Brexit?  :rolleyes
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Re: This is NOT an attempt to start a discussion...
« Reply #393 on: 09 November 2019, 12:38:38 AM »
So without meaning to start a discussion, what are peoples views about Brexit?  :rolleyes

Ask Boris Johnson.

Oh, sorry, he doesn't have a clue...!!

"Boris Johnson accidentally made an incredibly compelling argument against his own Brexit deal"

https://www.businessinsider.com/video-boris-johnson-accidentally-made-a-perfect-argument-against-brexit-2019-11?r=US&IR=T&utm_content=buffera8880&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer-politics
 :rollin

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« Reply #394 on: 09 November 2019, 07:38:42 AM »
So without meaning to start a discussion, what are peoples views about Brexit?  :rolleyes

Ask Boris Johnson.

Oh, sorry, he doesn't have a clue...!!

"Boris Johnson accidentally made an incredibly compelling argument against his own Brexit deal"

https://www.businessinsider.com/video-boris-johnson-accidentally-made-a-perfect-argument-against-brexit-2019-11?r=US&IR=T&utm_content=buffera8880&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer-politics
 :rollin


Of all the people to bite, i wasn't expecting you!  :lol
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Re: This is NOT an attempt to start a discussion...
« Reply #395 on: 09 November 2019, 09:26:35 AM »
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Labour and Corbyn should NEVER be let anywhere near the UKs treasury again. 
Corbyn was responsible? How?
And of course the Tories love tough regulations and lots of red tape. Especially building regulations for Tower blocks....                                                                                                                                                             [/quote
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« Reply #396 on: 09 November 2019, 09:38:53 AM »
Both the enforcement of Building Reg's, is local building control, and planning permission are controlled by the local council. Labour controlled? 

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« Reply #397 on: 09 November 2019, 12:26:10 PM »
 
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.... and of course Johnson doesn't even understand his own deal he has agreed with the EU, concerning movement of goods between GB and NI. Johnson should NEVER be allowed anywhere near government again.
I got the impression that he was pissed, or about to fall asleep.  Nearly everybody who has seen that clip knew he was talking pure shite.  So he was either pissed, ill, or blatantly lying. 

 

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« Reply #398 on: 09 November 2019, 12:28:35 PM »

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« Reply #399 on: 09 November 2019, 05:33:48 PM »
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Both the enforcement of Building Reg's, is local building control, and planning permission are controlled by the local council. Labour controlled?
Of course not. It's Kensington & Chelsea. Vastly Tory and only interested in their mansions, not the homes of poor people.