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« Reply #350 on: 05 November 2019, 07:32:35 PM »
Then they bring the alcohol down a bit after maturing and prior to bottling?.
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« Reply #351 on: 05 November 2019, 09:01:11 PM »
 Depends what you are buying.  There is the angels share of course, so the longer the whisky is in the cask for the weaker it gets.


But you get three general strengths;


Cask strength, usually well over 50% - the strongest I’ve purchased was an 8 year old unpeated Caol Ila at 64.9%


Unchillfiltered – which is well worth looking out for – it’s whisky that has not been chill filtered to remove the oils and other impurities.  Americans do not like whisky that goes cloudy when cold or ice is added.- so sadly most production is butchered with nasty chill filtering.   Those oils are often where much of the flavour is hiding.  Anyway, unchillfiltered is usually bottled at 46% so it won’t appear cloudy on the shelf.


And as you know the bulk of whisky is bottled at 40%, or sometimes 43%


So yeah, basically most of what you buy is watered down.
 

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« Reply #352 on: 05 November 2019, 10:25:14 PM »
All interesting stuff. The pride the distilleries take in what they produce is so evident. I respect that.
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« Reply #353 on: 07 November 2019, 07:38:25 AM »
All interesting stuff. The pride the distilleries take in what they produce is so evident. I respect that.
Interesting stuff indeed
Single Malt- whisky produced by a single distillery. Can only be made using barley and water.
Single Grain- whisky produced by a single distillery. Can be made using any cereal, including wheat, corn or rye.
Blended Whiskies- a blend of one or more single malt whiskies with one or more single grain whiskies from different distilleries.
Blended Malt Whisky – a blend of two or more single malt whiskies from different distilleries.
Blended Grain Whisky – a blend of two or more single grain whiskies from different distilleries.
The cheap stuff contains alot of caramel flavouring, this makes it slightly sweet and gives it the whisky colour that the good stuff gets from sitting in those sherry casks for alll those years.

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« Reply #354 on: 07 November 2019, 08:17:28 AM »
Just been reading about Labour's borrowing plans for if they win office :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek
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« Reply #355 on: 07 November 2019, 08:20:31 AM »
Former Labour MP Ian Austin is urging people to vote Conservative as Jeremy Corbyn is completely unfit to be Prime Minister :lol
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« Reply #356 on: 07 November 2019, 10:10:01 AM »
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Former Labour MP Ian Austin is urging people to vote Conservative as Jeremy Corbyn is completely unfit to be Prime Minister
And what do Dominic Grieve, David Gauke, Amber Rudd etc etc think of Johnson?

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« Reply #357 on: 07 November 2019, 11:25:05 AM »

WTF has the last comments to do with whisky., FOC all,  you political people try and get into every conversation with your boring subject--FOC oft.


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« Reply #358 on: 07 November 2019, 11:30:53 AM »

I actually reckon it's quite likely Corbyn WILL end up in Number 10. Here's my theory...


This is a Brexit election. The country is still split roughly 50/50 between Leave and Remain and we're going to end up with a hung Parliament on Friday 13th December.


The Illiberal Undemocrats will gain seats due to their policy of revoking Article 50. The Brexit Party will split the vote of both the Tories and Labour.


The Conservatives obviously will be unable to form an alliance with either the SNP or the Illiberal Undemocrats.


If they agree to get him the keys to Downing Street Corbyn will promise the SNP another independence referendum and the Illiberals a second EU referendum where the options will be BRINO/Remain Light v Remain (he'd easily get the EU's agreement to that). Knowing that this would disenfranchise Leave voters and secure an easy Remain victory, the Illiberals would alter their current stance and agree to Corbyn's proposal.


Last one out of the country turn off the lights :lol
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« Reply #359 on: 07 November 2019, 11:46:45 AM »
Just been reading about Labour's borrowing plans for if they win office :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek


The Greens plans eclipse that. It'd be back to the middle ages and no money left after taxation, and the rest of the world still going gungho to melt the ice caps

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« Reply #360 on: 07 November 2019, 11:55:22 AM »
 Good summary celticdog, but I think you are bit harsh on the use of caramel.
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The cheap stuff contains alot of caramel flavouring, this makes it slightly sweet and gives it the whisky colour that the good stuff gets from sitting in those sherry casks for alll those years.
Most blends will have a spot of caramel.  Johnny Walker Black Label for example almost certainly contains caramel.  It’s like a spot of seasoning, and/or it allows the distiller to ensure colour consistency in its product.   A fair number of malts contain caramel, famously Lagavulin 16yo.


In the UK a distiller does not have to declare the use of caramel, but in some other countries such as Germany they do.


If the bottle states no artificial colouring, or natural colour, then no caramel has been added.


 

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« Reply #361 on: 07 November 2019, 11:58:22 AM »
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If they agree to get him the keys to Downing Street Corbyn will promise the SNP another independence referendum and the Illiberals a second EU referendum where the options will be BRINO/Remain Light v Remain (he'd easily get the EU's agreement to that). Knowing that this would disenfranchise Leave voters and secure an easy Remain victory, the Illiberals would alter their current stance and agree to Corbyn's proposal.
Yep, the dream ticket  :)

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« Reply #362 on: 07 November 2019, 11:58:41 AM »
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WTF has the last comments to do with whisky., FOC all,  you political people try and get into every conversation with your boring subject--FOC oft.
Just fae you;

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« Reply #363 on: 07 November 2019, 12:08:48 PM »

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If they agree to get him the keys to Downing Street Corbyn will promise the SNP another independence referendum and the Illiberals a second EU referendum where the options will be BRINO/Remain Light v Remain (he'd easily get the EU's agreement to that). Knowing that this would disenfranchise Leave voters and secure an easy Remain victory, the Illiberals would alter their current stance and agree to Corbyn's proposal.
Yep, the dream ticket  :)


Yeah a foccin bad dream :lol
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« Reply #364 on: 07 November 2019, 12:10:02 PM »

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WTF has the last comments to do with whisky., FOC all,  you political people try and get into every conversation with your boring subject--FOC oft.

OK.  Just to merge the two subjects, here's why Brexit is bad for Whisky!
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/20/secret-brexit-deal-scotch-whisky-threat-us-imports

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« Reply #365 on: 07 November 2019, 12:21:37 PM »
Former Labour MP Ian Austin is urging people to vote Conservative as Jeremy Corbyn is completely unfit to be Prime Minister :lol

What he prefaced that remark with was "I wouldn't say that Boris Johnson is unfit to be our Prime Minister as I would about Jeremy Corbyn"

Not exactly a ringing endorsement of Boris!

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« Reply #366 on: 07 November 2019, 12:23:23 PM »
The latest production of the Tory Ministry of Truth...  :rollin :rollin :rollin

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« Reply #367 on: 07 November 2019, 12:29:20 PM »
Oh, and regarding the Ian Austin comments that are all over the news today, I hope there's going to be similar coverage of Nadhim Zahawi's comments that he “doesn’t know” if Jeremy Corbyn would shoot rich people if he became Prime Minister!

Even Andrew Adam Smith Institute Neil thought that went a bit far...!

https://www.indy100.com/article/corbyn-stalin-tory-mp-shoot-rich-people-nadhim-zahawi-andrew-neil-9188851

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« Reply #368 on: 07 November 2019, 12:56:57 PM »

The Illiberal Undemocrats will gain seats due to their policy of revoking Article 50. The Brexit Party will split the vote of both the Tories and Labour.

The Conservatives obviously will be unable to form an alliance with either the SNP or the Illiberal Undemocrats.
 
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The Illiberal Undemocrats will gain seats due to their policy of revoking Article 50. The Brexit Party will split the vote of both the Tories and Labour.

The Conservatives obviously will be unable to form an alliance with either the SNP or the Illiberal Undemocrats.
My hope is that the brexit party will have enough MPs to be the king maker for the conservatives.

What's the the tally so far on Labours borrowing plans - something like £250b  :eek . That would mean all that suffering due to Austerity would of been for nothing and with zero gain. This country will end up bankrupt like Greece - only without the weather.

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Last one out of the country blow the candle out :lol
fixed that for you
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« Reply #369 on: 07 November 2019, 12:58:42 PM »

ignore - trying to sort the quotes in my last post ---------I give up
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« Reply #370 on: 07 November 2019, 01:37:59 PM »

Oh, and regarding the Ian Austin comments that are all over the news today, I hope there's going to be similar coverage of Nadhim Zahawi's comments


Nah I've not heard it once today. It's all about Ian Austin :lol
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« Reply #371 on: 07 November 2019, 01:40:43 PM »

Last one out of the country blow the candle out :lol
fixed that for you



Perfect ta :thumbup . I knew I'd get one bit wrong :lol
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« Reply #372 on: 07 November 2019, 03:33:26 PM »
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My hope is that the brexit party........................
The what party?  Who?

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« Reply #373 on: 07 November 2019, 03:34:19 PM »

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« Reply #374 on: 07 November 2019, 05:00:38 PM »
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