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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2850 on: 01 April 2019, 11:51:35 AM »


you remoaners will believe any thing that the lying papers will print.
very selective ..millions remoaners against thousands of brexiteers.
papers will always print negatives that support them.
you remoaners can't say comes from fb.
EU major project and we dont even come close.....
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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2851 on: 01 April 2019, 11:58:39 AM »
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Quite an achievement… a panel where Will Self isn’t the most annoying participant.

Agree with you on both counts  :)

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2852 on: 01 April 2019, 05:09:53 PM »
[/size]Remainers can't even grasp that the EU money that is used in our country is actually our money [/font]
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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2853 on: 01 April 2019, 05:42:18 PM »
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Do you mind, that's my MP :eek

Nae luck!

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2854 on: 01 April 2019, 05:45:06 PM »
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you remoaners will believe any thing that the lying papers will print.
You mean like this.................

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2855 on: 01 April 2019, 05:57:44 PM »
 
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Remainers can't even grasp that the EU money that is used in our country is actually our money


 
Under the EU rural development fund, which is part of the common agricultural policy, my country has enjoyed considerable investment and development.  This is investment that otherwise would not have happened.  The Tories are not interested in rural Scotland, certainly not the lives of ordinary people and the viability of our communities.  Many of these projects not only have created jobs but made communities that would have otherwise died under the Tories viable and profitable, which in turn means tax for the exchequer.  One of the beautiful things about the EU is a lot of what it does can be detached, or is outwith petty regional or national politics. 



Scotland will take a double hit if we are dragged out of the EU against our will by England.  Not only will we lose any further massive investment by the EU, but the UK will be poorer as a whole meaning our Scottish Parliamentary budgets will be slashed by England.  Any money the UK saves from not having to pay to the EU in membership costs will be wiped out many times over by the economic impact of leaving.

 

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2856 on: 01 April 2019, 06:03:34 PM »

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2857 on: 01 April 2019, 06:39:57 PM »
[quote]Remainers can't even grasp that the EU money that is used in our country is actually our money
Of course we grasp it  :rolleyes If every country in the EU got more out than they put in, it would be a Ponzi Scheme!
The point of paying out to develop areas and countries is to increase trade and wealth all round.

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2858 on: 01 April 2019, 07:14:40 PM »
BREXIT is simply an exercise in self harm.

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2860 on: 01 April 2019, 10:16:36 PM »
So if I have got this correct.
Scotland's MPs tonight have voted positively for all 4 options. 

Scotland has not voted for May's deal.
Three things are clear tonight.

Scotland is prepared to do a deal. 

The Tory party continues to prevent any deal going through.
The Tory party continues to drive this union into the ground. 

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2861 on: 02 April 2019, 12:17:24 AM »
Not quite. The SNP abstained on Ken Clarke's 'Customs Union only' vote, which lead to it losing by 3 votes


What is more amazing is that the DUP voted against Nick Boles' 'Customs Union + Single Market' vote. A vote which allows the UK to leave the EU, recognises the result of the referendum and removes the need for the Irish Backstop. Everything they have been asking for, yet they voted against it  :rolleyes
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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2862 on: 02 April 2019, 04:48:49 PM »

So if I have got this correct.
Scotland's MPs tonight have voted positively for all 4 options. 
Not quite. The SNP abstained on Ken Clarke's 'Customs Union only' vote, which lead to it losing by 3 votes


Fight! Fight! Fight! :lol
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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2863 on: 02 April 2019, 06:05:24 PM »
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Fight! Fight! Fight!

Nah.... we're not Leavers  :)

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2864 on: 02 April 2019, 06:18:16 PM »
Stop Press. May's latest announcement this evening 'The Labour Party is now in charge of Brexit'  :)

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2865 on: 02 April 2019, 06:35:09 PM »
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So if I have got this correct.
Scotland's MPs tonight have voted positively for all 4 options. 


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Not quite. The SNP abstained on Ken Clarke's 'Customs Union only' vote, which lead to it losing by 3 votes

I stand corrected.  Jumped in too quick there.#
 But yes, the Tory party continues to block any deal.  The very same people who pressurised Cameron into offering a referendum, are now effectively preventing BREXIT in their delusional and reckless pursuit of NO DEAL. 
 
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Stop Press. May's latest announcement this evening 'The Labour Party is now in charge of Brexit'  :)

She is clearly rejecting NO DEAL and asking for a further extension.  But it remains anybody’s guess if any sort of deal can be reached.  This is still all about the Troy Party.
 
 
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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2866 on: 02 April 2019, 06:37:53 PM »

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2867 on: 02 April 2019, 07:12:02 PM »
Her 'good reason' for asking the EU for an extension will be based on the 'cooperation' element. As you say 'No Deal' is obviously off the table, and I expect some cabinet resignations shortly  :)
She'll bet on half the Tories plus most of Labour going for a softer Brexit, and that would get it over the line.
Labour will lay down conditions. It much depends on whether one of them is that any new deal is put to a referendum.
Corbyn won't be easy to deal with.....

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2868 on: 02 April 2019, 07:21:31 PM »
 NO DEAL is still the default position.  We leave on the 12th April.


We are reliant on the EU offering an extension.  I’m not sure that – having a chat with Jeremy is going to cut the mustard.  But lets see what happens.


This is getting desperate.  And if all that is achieved is a customs union, which is what I expect, well there is then a high possibility of a second Scottish Independence referendum.  If that happens, the Tories will refuse permission, the Scottish Parliament will do it anyway and the UK’s constructional crises will continue to get worse.


The Tories have once again completely fucked everything up.


 

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2869 on: 02 April 2019, 07:23:40 PM »
This, as predicted, is a already an economic disaster for the UK economy;
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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2870 on: 02 April 2019, 08:59:32 PM »
NO DEAL is still the default position.  We leave on the 12th April.


We are reliant on the EU offering an extension.  I’m not sure that – having a chat with Jeremy is going to cut the mustard.  But lets see what happens.


This is getting desperate.  And if all that is achieved is a customs union, which is what I expect, well there is then a high possibility of a second Scottish Independence referendum.  If that happens, the Tories will refuse permission, the Scottish Parliament will do it anyway and the UK’s constructional crises will continue to get worse.


The Tories have once again completely fucked everything up.


You have to be careful with referendums. Youve lost the last 2  :lol

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2871 on: 02 April 2019, 09:57:32 PM »
 
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You have to be careful with referendums. Youve lost the last 2  :lol

Yes indeed.  The last three actually;


2011 United Kingdom Alternative Vote referendum
2014 Scottish Independence referendum
2016 EU referendum


If you wanna know what the result of any upcoming referendum will be – just ask me how I am voting – the opposite will be the result. :(


However I wouldn’t ever swap being on the right side for being on the winning side. ;)
 

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2872 on: 02 April 2019, 10:00:48 PM »
Stop Press. May's latest announcement this evening 'The Labour Party is now in charge of Brexit'  :)

You do realise this is only so, if it all goes tits-up, she can blame it on Corbyn...!

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2873 on: 02 April 2019, 10:50:50 PM »

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2874 on: 02 April 2019, 11:23:15 PM »
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The Tories have once again completely fucked everything up.
Indeed. You have to wonder why May didn't seek cooperation two years ago.
O yes I know. It's because it would have split the Tory party even earlier...