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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2500 on: 14 March 2019, 10:07:55 AM »
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and Remain lost again
But that wouldn't happen  :)


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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2501 on: 14 March 2019, 10:42:33 AM »

But that wouldn't happen  :)



Yeah, yeah we've heard that one before :lol
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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2502 on: 14 March 2019, 10:49:11 AM »
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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2503 on: 14 March 2019, 10:50:01 AM »
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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2504 on: 14 March 2019, 11:10:37 AM »
I suggest you forward those to Mrs May :lol
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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2505 on: 14 March 2019, 11:22:23 AM »
Yesterday when may went through the list of possibles and she mentioned no brexit there was a massive cheer in the house. All those MPs who campaigned for and won their seat on the back of backing/respecting the referendum.   
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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2506 on: 14 March 2019, 11:38:07 AM »
Yep that's why a lot of them, especially the Labour MP's in the northern marginals, are so apprehensive about backing a second referendum. They fear the backlash come election time ;)
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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2507 on: 14 March 2019, 11:44:21 AM »
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All those MPs who campaigned for and won their seat on the back of backing/respecting the referendum.   
I think it was all those MPs who represent Remain majority constituencies. Not including former Brexit Secretary Dominic Raab of course (Esher and Walton 58.4% Remain), Theresa Villiers, former NI secretary (Chipping Barnet 58.9% Remain) etc etc. All continuously voting against the wishes of their constituents.

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2508 on: 14 March 2019, 12:30:24 PM »
Don't know why they bothered with the first referendum MP's never had any intention of leaving the EU what ever the result. Might as well not have any more elections,  referendums, just leave to the MP's and the old boy/girls network and stop pretending we live in a democracy. We had a civil war 400 odd years ago made no difference then and this has made no difference now still run by the old boy network and the secret handshake brigade. :eek   :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek 

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2509 on: 14 March 2019, 12:36:33 PM »

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All those MPs who campaigned for and won their seat on the back of backing/respecting the referendum.   
I think it was all those MPs who represent Remain majority constituencies. Not including former Brexit Secretary Dominic Raab of course (Esher and Walton 58.4% Remain), Theresa Villiers, former NI secretary (Chipping Barnet 58.9% Remain) etc etc. All continuously voting against the wishes of their constituents.


Don't 401 out of 632 MP's, that's 63%, represent constituencys that voted Leave?

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2510 on: 14 March 2019, 01:00:26 PM »
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Don't 401 out of 632 MP's, that's 63%, represent constituencys that voted Leave?
Didn't realise it was a numbers thing. Thought it was about individual responsibility.
OK if it's about numbers, May had her deal rejected (again) by 391 (62%) votes to 242. So without any further changes being agreed with the EU, why are they being asked to vote again?

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2511 on: 14 March 2019, 01:51:19 PM »


Didn't realise it was a numbers thing. Thought it was about individual responsibility.



So why critisise Dominic Raab and Theresa Villiers for voting contrary to the majority of their constituents then?

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2512 on: 14 March 2019, 02:16:16 PM »
Um because they also voted against their wishes. You Leavers seem to think responsibility only works in one direction.

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2513 on: 14 March 2019, 02:48:19 PM »

Um because they also voted against their wishes.



So with each MP voting in accordance with the wishes of the majority of their constiuents you simply come back to my numbers (401 to 231) then :lol
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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2514 on: 14 March 2019, 05:21:16 PM »
Amendment calling for new referendum rejected by 334 votes to 85 :lol
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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2515 on: 14 March 2019, 07:50:04 PM »
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Amendment calling for new referendum rejected by 334 votes to 85

Defeated? Labour just picking their moment  :) Anyway, no Brexit on 29th March. End of June at least, so plenty of time for things to change.


What you Leavers must remember, is that the only 'deal' that might be passed by Parliament is the transition arrangements. The interim position, which is basically that everything stays the same. Same Customs Union, Single Market, free movement, payments to the EU etc That's for the next 2 years at least while the UK negotiates a full long term relationship with the EU. The EU won't be easy to deal with. May will want a close relationship, and we could easily end up very close, like Norway. Still paying in, still following rules.


You've been duped  :lol


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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2516 on: 14 March 2019, 09:34:00 PM »

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2517 on: 15 March 2019, 11:37:15 AM »



You've been duped  :lol 



In all likelihood Leave will get duped.


The majority of the voters and the constituencys are Leave, but Parliament is overwhelmingly Remain.


Leave won the referendum and have the mandate, but when it comes to the crunch Remain have Parliament :\
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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2518 on: 15 March 2019, 04:17:26 PM »
Patience good people. The only nation yet to leave the EU was Greenland, and it took them 3 years. Its not over till the fat lady sings, and I cant wait to see the smug smiles wiped off the faces of the arrogant foccers acting against the national interest

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2519 on: 15 March 2019, 04:36:20 PM »
Patience good people. The only nation yet to leave the EU was Greenland, and it took them 3 years. Its not over till the fat lady sings, and I cant wait to see the smug smiles wiped off the faces of the arrogant foccers acting against the national interest


Exactly,  delays because of weak willed politicians just makes our eventual leaving even more pleasing.

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2520 on: 15 March 2019, 04:46:11 PM »
Stephen Barclay, the current Brexit Secretary made the government's case for an extension beyond 29th March yesterday, then voted against it. What the foc is going on?  :rolleyes

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2521 on: 15 March 2019, 05:09:30 PM »

Who knows what'll happen next :eek

Yesterday Corbyn instructed his MP's to abstain in the 2nd referendum vote then straight after said how Labour support a 2nd poll, thus keeping their voters in the North happy one minute and the South the next :lol
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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2522 on: 15 March 2019, 06:45:35 PM »

Who knows what'll happen next :eek

Yesterday Corbyn instructed his MP's to abstain in the 2nd referendum vote then straight after said how Labour support a 2nd poll, thus keeping their voters in the North happy one minute and the South the next :lol


I think there's common agreement between our two sides that there are numerous factions at work in parliament, for a variety of reasons and that you currently can't bank on any MP holding the same view for more than a second. Duplicitous foccers at work

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2523 on: 15 March 2019, 06:57:29 PM »
 
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In all likelihood Leave will get duped.
You were duped in 2016.

 

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #2524 on: 15 March 2019, 07:59:39 PM »
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I think there's common agreement between our two sides that there are numerous factions at work in parliament, for a variety of reasons and that you currently can't bank on any MP holding the same view for more than a second. Duplicitous foccers at work
Absolutely agree.