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Ice tag
« on: 15 October 2015, 10:49:02 PM »
Anyone got one of these on a work helmet?
Possibilities for bike helmet fitment?

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Re: Ice tag
« Reply #1 on: 15 October 2015, 11:02:53 PM »
Liking the idea of that Steve - good shout. Got ICE stored in the mobile and wear a dogtag but every bit helps  :thumbup
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Re: Ice tag
« Reply #2 on: 16 October 2015, 09:19:15 AM »
I wear a dog tag cos im diabetic and i think  paramedics are trained to look for them. Like frosties says every little helps though :) .
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Re: Ice tag
« Reply #3 on: 16 October 2015, 09:32:27 AM »
Yeah, I normally wear a dog tag because of my allergies to certain drugs, but I do occasionally forget to put it on. This little gadget is permanent. And it's not like the paramedics can miss it in a hurry.
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Re: Ice tag
« Reply #4 on: 16 October 2015, 10:12:52 AM »

I wear a dog tag cos im diabetic and i think  paramedics are trained to look for them. Like frosties says every little helps though :) .
Luckly I am not allergic or have any other issues (yet) but I carry an ICE card with details on it and have it on my phone.
I was talking to a paramedic about this and they said if you are in that bad a state that you cannot communicate with them then that their 1st concern is saving your life.

A few years ago there was a similar one going around  that involved you tucking the info in the lining of your lid and sticking a green dot on the side of your lid to indicate that you had this, I always thought the issue with this was that they had to take your helmet off to get to it.

Also back in the day it was a big no-no to put any stickers on your lid because the adhesive could damage the structure, im guessing that it dosn't matter now with modern helmet materials
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Re: Ice tag
« Reply #5 on: 16 October 2015, 12:51:49 PM »
I believe that the green spot sticker and card are still current. The idea is you stick the dot on the corner of your visor, not on the helmet.

Taking the helmet off isn't a problem, provided there are two people and they know what they are doing. The emergency services will all have been trained and well practised at it.

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Re: Ice tag
« Reply #6 on: 16 October 2015, 12:57:38 PM »
The green dot is not such a problem it was the bigger stciky ICE in the ebay link. But im not sure it stickers are a problem anymore for modern lids and plastics
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Re: Ice tag
« Reply #7 on: 16 October 2015, 01:13:34 PM »
Many years ago I printed out a label with my blood type and other info on it and stuck it to my lid. I was chatting to a police biker (he stopped where we were parked up "just to say hi") He said the sticker was a good idea, but medics may not pay too much attention to it as the helmet could have been borrowed from somebody else.
I wonder if the same view would be taken for emergency contact information?
Not saying the ICE tag is a bad idea, just wondering what info the emergency services need (to be sure they are calling the right family) before they make a phone call. 
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Re: Ice tag
« Reply #8 on: 16 October 2015, 01:33:46 PM »
I dont think it matters what blood type you are because if you need it then you are in the shit and they are not bothered about the type at this stage because it will be coming out as fast as they are putting it in. Dont they just use a neutral plazma anyway
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Re: Ice tag
« Reply #9 on: 16 October 2015, 02:08:38 PM »


medics may not pay too much attention to it as the helmet could have been borrowed from somebody else.
I wonder if the same view would be taken for emergency contact information?
Not saying the ICE tag is a bad idea, just wondering what info the emergency services need (to be sure they are calling the right family) before they make a phone call.

Speaking from experience, they (ES)  generally get their heads together before they give any intimation to next of kin, checking bike registration, who its insured to, and any other ID carried on the person. If it don't match, they're generally careful to what they do. Can't understand why some people go out without ID really, it's bonkers when you think about it!

As for borrowing helmet with the ice thingy attached, I never thought of that, as I don't lend my lid out, but others out there might do it!

And as for blood groups, well as far as I know ambulances put plasma in if your leaking that badly (i'm sure one of our medical guys on here will know better.) It's really on the ice tag so they can call it in to the hospital and prep it saving precious time. My missus has a rare blood group and can only take that particular type apparently.

I'm beginning to think dog tags are the best way really with all this in mind.
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Re: Ice tag
« Reply #10 on: 19 October 2015, 03:40:51 PM »
I had the green dot years ago, now on our biker down courses we're pushing the same idea with a green keys sticker....same principle but it alerts the ES to look at your keys.......and part of the sticker job lot is the small barrel that you put your details into and this barrel hooks onto your key ring

I personally have it on my house keys in the pocket as I've heard peeps say it scratches the yolk, others put it on their jacket zipper to stop the scratches on the yolk but my concern with that is if you have an off and it goes west as you slide/bounce down the road
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Re: Ice tag
« Reply #11 on: 19 October 2015, 06:42:28 PM »
Unless it's physically on you (dog tags, medic alert bracelet, etc) there are always scenarios where you won't know who the tags relate to. Lids with stickers could be borrowed. Tags on keys in the ignition, if you come across a rider and pillion in a single vehicle accident, how do you know who the rider was? I am a volunteer first responder for the ambulance service and in most incidents, managing the ABC's doesn't  rely on knowing any allergy information/blood types/emergency contact information. We deal with the incident presented to us and act according the patients clinical need. Additional information such as ICE would usually only be put to use once the patient was stable and in/en route to hospital.

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Re: Ice tag
« Reply #12 on: 20 October 2015, 12:11:51 AM »
That sounds like a recommendation to me. Dog tags it is then.
 There's something comforting about putting as much information on these ice tags as physically possible though.

Now the question is, are these usb type  ice tags any use to the medical professionals? Or just a gimmick?
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Re: Ice tag
« Reply #13 on: 20 October 2015, 08:11:29 AM »
I dont think they are much help, imax sums it up. But I do still carry stuff in my pocket and on my phone
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Re: Ice tag
« Reply #14 on: 21 October 2015, 10:35:03 AM »
interestingly I was gonna get my blood type tattooed on my arm before my 1st tour but a medic said they pay no attention to them as many servicemen had it wrong!!
however I had a patch made up, which is stitched to my leather shoulder with surname & blood type..
Agreed it could be a borrowed jacket etc & I have been told that they use plasma or the common blood in emergency's but also blood type matching is so much quicker these days but makes me feel better :)
 
oh & like others I have ICE info in my phone too!
« Last Edit: 21 October 2015, 10:36:11 AM by Robbie8666 »
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