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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 23 May 2020, 12:50:29 PM »
 
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Only 45% of Scots voted for the SNP but the other 55% have to put up with their shite.
Have you been drinking?  Bit early in the day isn’t it?  Look 75% of Scots did not vote Tory at the last GE, but cos 47% of English did – we gotta put up with your countries shite.  Get your facts right!


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Since when have you been the one to decide what is right wing or not?  People are entitled to have an opinion that is different from yours and as long as what the say is not illegal such as racist etc then you have absolutely no right to call them out on it.
You are barking up the wrong tree mate.  I don’t start political threads.  But whatever you think, I am entitled to an opinion every bit as much as the next man.  Who are you to decide who is entitled to an opinion or not?
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The mods on this forum are a joke and the only thread I can remember being deleted was one posted by a very popular member on here that you got deleted because it did not suit your " woke " views. Everybody else knew the OP  did not actually mean that a certain person needed a good kicking in the literal sense but that was not good enough for you.
I’ve only ever started one political thread.  Ad I’ve only ever once directly approached a moderator. 



So tell me this – have you approached the mods with your complaint (whatever it is)?  Simple question.
 

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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 23 May 2020, 12:29:13 PM »

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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 23 May 2020, 12:25:28 PM »
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Absolute bollocks once again, the original post was about how the media was were portraying Covid 19,
 
Hmm, nothing political there – eh. :lol
 
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it then gets politicalised in post 19 by guess who?
VNA of course with one of his ridiculous unfunny cartoons, gets called out for it by Yamfazfan and answers by a smiling emoji.
My God fuck me. :eek   Is that is all you have to get upset about man – then be grateful. :rolleyes   



Here’s another cartoon for you……. 8)

 :)


 

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General / Re: The cool bike thread......
« on: 22 May 2020, 11:20:45 PM »
Gosh, its actually 1550cc

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General / Re: The cool bike thread......
« on: 22 May 2020, 11:18:23 PM »
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Quote from: VNA - BMW Wank on Today at 08:53:29 PM<blockquote>

Quote<blockquote>Ok - it looks shit then</blockquote>Fair enougth
</blockquote>There you go, easy isn't it, that's how normal people interact with other people

Look quit the petty squabbling - what about Allen's Kawasaki?
I mean how fantastic is that?  How does he do it - time and time again.  What a fella!
I do feel, he should create a nice 1350 badge as a wee finshing touch, to replace the 900 badge on the side cover. 

I think he should offer me a test ride too!   Anyway I love it.  I think its cool, and it will certainly get noticed by both ordinary punters and bikers.  Its super cool, and nicely understated too.



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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 22 May 2020, 09:45:36 PM »
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The thing is that from VNAs radicalised extremist perspective almost everyone is right wing.
Shame then how in the politcal views therad, well the result of the survey showed me to be very liberal.

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General / Re: The cool bike thread......
« on: 22 May 2020, 08:53:29 PM »
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Quote from: coffee on Today at 05:16:26 PM
 
    'kin ell!! it don't take you lot long to start fuckin' arguing does it ? I swear you'd find something wrong with any thread. :groan
 
People have expressed an opinion but because its not the same as VNAs then its not allowed, that's why its mostly only him that is posting bikes, people are not bothering.

For fucks sake!  It’s the cool bike thread! 
From the head post.
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Post what you reckon is cool.  Call it out if you think it’s uncool.
So comments are welcome, but try and remember this is neither the bling bike thread or the ideal all year round feccin commuter thread.
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Ok - it looks shit then
Fair enougth.

 
 

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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 22 May 2020, 08:45:54 PM »
 
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One of VNA's favourite remarks is , people get the government they deserve. Well this government is the one he and his cronies deserve, without it they would never have anything or anyone to blame for anything.
Yes and No.  The UK has the government that England deserves.  Scotland didn’t vote for this government, the only country in the UK that arguably did is England.
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People have left this forum because of them, new members take one look at all their posted shit and never return
I would remind you Slappy that my sum total of political threads is 1.  I’ve been a member of this forum for pretty much as long as it has been around.  But if others insist starting political threads and expressing right wing views, at times extreme right wing views, I will refute them. 
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The forum is dying because there are no posting rules like on most other forums, and the admins allow the same few people to take over motorcycle related threads and fill them with their political views and when asked to stop just carry on.
If you are unhappy with a thread or comments in a thread then draw the mods attention to it.  There are rules and they will act. 
 

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General / Re: The cool bike thread......
« on: 22 May 2020, 06:14:31 PM »

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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 22 May 2020, 05:07:12 PM »
 
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It doesn't matter if it's PPE, tests, care homes, public transport, immigration, emigration, or the price of carrots. EVERYONE needs to stop acting like like a fucking fanny and making shit up.
Perhaps it would help if our government would start being honest with us. 
But seeing as England decided to elect a racist, misogynistic, bigoted, homophobic and untrustworthy serial liar – we ain’t gonna get honesty any time soon.
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Final argument though is that Parliament as a whole is responsible, when they/we/the public voted in the Tories they didn't kick everyone else out; anyone voted in can make their point (or their constituencys point) and be listened to, which is the point I was trying to make before!
Yes, but our first past the post system leads to majority government on a minority of the vote.  The UK system is such that it allows the government to dictate. 
The only reason Johnson backed down was because he was shamed by the Labour party and faced defeat at the hands of his own.
 
Meanwhile the fact remains that it is for government to ensure that the country is suitably prepared for a pandemic, particularly so when they have been funding research and paying for such advice that has stressed the importance of doing so.

So surely, we the people have the right to ask, why was our country not prepared?  Why have so many died?  Why are we still in lockdown?  Why is our economy in tatters?

The Tories, one way or another have been in power for the last ten years – they have absolutely and utterly failed us. 



 

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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 22 May 2020, 04:55:29 PM »
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Serco a private company at a price.  If you know anything about anything they do it's utter shite, race to the bottom and as cheap as chips, all about the margin, result shite! 
And guess who the CEO is -Rupert Soames

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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 22 May 2020, 02:35:24 PM »
 Umm, farmboy, you have quoted me in relation to PPE, tests and care homes.


You then waffle on incoherently in relation to Johnson’s largely failed NHS surcharge for migrants bill.
 
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I pride myself on being able to see both sides of an argument, but you (and others!) are just coming across as belligerent.

Really!  I’d say, more that you excel at confusing and mixing up entirely different arguments.
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I could go on, but I'd need a couple of pint and a table to thump for emphasis!
Perhaps go for a walk – it could be the cabin fever that is causing you such confusion.
 

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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 22 May 2020, 01:39:41 PM »

Need add care home I guess.

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General / Re: The cool bike thread......
« on: 22 May 2020, 01:01:20 PM »
 
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plus go through a mucky puddle on that and your friggin coated in mud--so bloody stupid.
Its no the captain fuckin sensible bike thread ya fud, it’s the cool bike thread.  Jesus!


Its all about the look, its all about universal cool – not whether the bike is a practicable commuter, how good it is at negotiating puddles, whether the ergonomics are comfortable or not or what the fuel economy is or fuel range.    FFS!
 

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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 22 May 2020, 12:54:56 PM »
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Quote from: mtread on 21 May 2020, 07:52:17 PM
 
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        It's the care home owners that you need to be kicking but they are quite happy to blame the government for all of their own failings.
 
    There's no such thing as 'private testing'. Only the government can obtain PPE in the numbers required. Not individual care homes.
 
Wrong on both counts, ppe was widly available privately and testing has also but the care homes did not want to pay. It's an odd situation when a Socialist is defending and protecting private care, wonder why that is. Oh yes otherwise it would damage their narative that everything is boris's fault  :rolleyes , twisted or what.

So the PPE shortage was a myth Fazersharp.  That the country was so short of tests it would only test an admission to hospital with serious respiratory issues and only after an overnight stay and only if the patient was not fit for discharge.  It was a myth was it Fazersharp that the country was so short of tests that the NHS were unable to test their own staff even if they were showing symptoms.

 
I must have imagined it when I saw myself on PPE wholesalers’ sites notices such as ‘this stock reserved for NHS’.  Or ‘we are only able to supply the NHS at this time’.  Figments of my imagination, I guess.


We are talking about a national crisis here.  We are talking about deaths and peoples lives.  So, stop acting like a fucking fanny and making stuff up. 
 

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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 21 May 2020, 09:35:12 PM »
 
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you keep forgetting that over 80% of English care homes are private, and charging upwards of 50k per year, and they are not the expensive ones.
Having lost both my parents in recent years I am well aware that many care homes across the UK are privately run.  Successive Tory governments have encouraged the private sector and also privatised much of our social care system.


People in care homes are there because they need to be cared for.  Some are simply frail, others, like both my parents were, are ill with conditions that will inevitably take their lives.


It is not for care homes to plan for pandemics.  That is a government responsibility.  Part of that responsibility must be to consider how caring for the vulnerable in society will continue under various pandemic scenarios.


I really feel for the care staff working through this pandemic.  I feel for the families whom have loved ones in care.  And I feel for those who run care homes, whether that be in the public, charity or private sectors.


Understand also, that it is the governments responsibility to oversee and regulate the care sector.


This government is an absolute utter total failure.

 

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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 21 May 2020, 07:17:36 PM »
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I'd have thought it was more of a win for the NHS/care staff.
It appears that Johnson was also facing a possible and significant Tory revolt.

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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 21 May 2020, 11:06:21 AM »
 
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Because you don't do politically motivated do you?
No I’m more interested in what actually happened.  For example,


The government claims it threw “a protective ring around care homes”
So why then were care homes deaths so high in the UK?  What was this protective ring?


I can’t find anything that the government did to protect care homes.  And nor do you have to be a genius to figure out what should have happened, and what should not have happened in order to protect care homes. 



It is fairly obvious that care homes should have been prioritised for PPE.  That didn’t happen.


It is fairly obvious that care workers, both in care homes and in the wider community needed regular testing.  Any carer founds positive should have been contact traced to identify what other care workers and vulnerable individuals they had been in contact with.


Use of agency staff should have been limited.  Any agency staff moving between homes should have been tested at each move.


Agency staff were spreading Covid-19 between care homes
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/18/agency-staff-were-spreading-covid-19-between-care-homes-phe-found-in-april
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Because you don't do politically motivated do you?
What we have slappy is a government that repeatedly lies to us.  Why are so many people in England happy with that?  Why?
 

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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 20 May 2020, 09:27:20 PM »
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https://order-order.com/2020/05/20/eu-report-shows...
 
Comparison of care home deaths in UK and EU .

That comparison needs careful analysis.  Take Germany.  We know they have done an excellent job of tackling Covid19.  We also know that the most vulnerable are the elderly and those with existing conditions.  So you surely one should not be surpised if Germany shows a higher percentage of care home deaths, than say a country like the UK who were completely fucking useless at containing Covid19. 



Selective data needs careful analysis.  I wouldn’t rush to draw any conclusions from that graph to be honest.  Not to mention I’d be very wary of any politically motivated analysis on such a notorious blog.
 

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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 20 May 2020, 09:16:20 PM »
 
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Quote from: VNA - BMW Wank on Today at 06:42:26 PM
 
    Ha!  Always beware of one whom gives you problem, then shows you the solution.
 
  'scuse me, but I thought we weren't supposed to be mentioning who 'gave us the problem'

I just thought I’d try and get in there with the conspiracy theory before Fazersharp and YamFazFan
 

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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 20 May 2020, 06:42:26 PM »
 Ha!  Always beware of one whom gives you problem, then shows you the solution.
 

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General / Re: The cool bike thread......
« on: 20 May 2020, 11:48:41 AM »

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General / Re: Today's "What Gets My Goat" - NO POLITICS!
« on: 20 May 2020, 11:46:16 AM »
 
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the increase in power /torque comes in on a BMW R1200R because of the exup type valve in the exhaust system which is timed to come fully open once you reach a certain rev when accelerating
It would appear to be for low rpm noise control.  Nothing to do with torque or power.
   

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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 20 May 2020, 11:41:48 AM »
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How it should be done...
 
The coronavirus slayer! How Kerala's rock star health minister helped save it from Covid-19

Thanks Grahamm, that’s an excellent article.
 
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Maybe we just didn't whip or beat enough people with sticks in the streets to get the message across that you had to stay inside or else?
Nope.  Again it’s test,test,test,trace and isolate. 



What KK Shailaja did was pay attention to the WHO.  First, they had prepared because they listened to the WHO, and also they understood what a highly contagious disease with no known treatment or vacine can do.  When the WHO expressed concern about a possible pandemic they acted and followed their advice.
 

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