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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 09 April 2020, 09:27:01 PM »
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Quote from: Grahamm on Today at 04:48:56 PM<blockquote>workers who usually come from overseas to work on the harvest have been held back by COVID-19
</blockquote>That reminds me two days in a row I have witnessed groups of eastern Europeans who do not seem to give a toss. One group of 8 helping wash each others cars (2 cars ) in a supermarket petrol station. And another group of 6 having a BBQ in a back street lock-up, in full view of passers by.     « Last Edit: Today at 08:29:17 PM »


I know I know.  Bloody immigrants!
Here's some more........well six of them are.....




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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 09 April 2020, 04:34:36 PM »
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HMG need to announce the eextension of the locakdown today or people will be out and about this weekend thinking "what difference will a day or two make"

Scotland's coronavirus lockdown is likely to continue "for some weeks to come", Nicola Sturgeon has said.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-52217361

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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 09 April 2020, 01:15:29 PM »
 Just a quick re-cap for you oldgit; ;)
 
I shook hands with everybody – Boris Johnson   :eek





 

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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 09 April 2020, 01:13:32 PM »
 
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Just had a great statement from VNA's SNPeeeeeee leader Wee Jimmy Krankie, she stated that (headline news) Nobody is immune from Covid-19, well Foc me, I never knew that, thanks ya friggin halfwit.

VNA is not a member of the SNP, and is not a supporter of the SNP – ya halfwit indeed.
 

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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 09 April 2020, 11:35:41 AM »

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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 09 April 2020, 11:29:19 AM »
 WHO update 11th Feb - Key considerations for repatriation and quarantine of travellers in relation to the outbreak of novel coronavirus 2019-nCoV
https://www.who.int/news-room/articles-detail/key-considerations-for-repatriation-and-quarantine-of-travellers-in-relation-to-the-outbreak-of-novel-coronavirus-2019-ncov/

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Countries should be prepared for containment, including active surveillance, early detection, isolation and case management, contact tracing and prevention of onward spread of 2019-nCoV infection, and to share full data with WHO. In accordance with their obligations under the Article 43 of the International Health Regulations (2005), States Parties must inform WHO about additional health measures that significantly interfere with international traffic.
It then lists in details the key considerations for repatriation from Wuhan city.
 

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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 09 April 2020, 11:03:39 AM »
 Labour urges UK government to publish findings of 2016 pandemic drill
 
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/02/labour-urges-government-publish-findings-2016-pandemic-drill
 
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A report at the weekend in the Sunday Telegraph said that Cygnus identified that the NHS would need thousands more intensive care beds in a pandemic crisis, that doctors would have to start triaging patients, only helping those with better chance of survival, and that there would be a shortage of masks and other protective equipment available to frontline staff.

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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 09 April 2020, 11:03:07 AM »
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No one has, not in the media. It's "bad for the economy". Yet, with the few brains I've got, it was clear to me that it needed to have been done. Discussed it with a friend and SWMBO, as we were reading the news from China.
No one was suggesting it, because there was no requirement to do so.  But what was required was restrictions, monitoring, testing and quaranteen for those travelling from high risk areas.

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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 09 April 2020, 10:50:41 AM »
 
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No one had the brains & guts to close the borders in January.
I’m not aware of anybody suggesting that.  I’m not aware of the WHO suggesting that.


But we should have been screening and testing those coming into the country from China – we didn’t.  Weeks later people were freely entering the UK from Italy.  The UK left the door wide open. 



We should have also been checking out stocks of PPE and ensuring that they were sufficient for what might come.  We should have been preparing to test test test.  But the UK did nothing.


Germany has carried out almost 5 times the tests we have.  They have twice the recorded cases that we have but a third of the deaths.  They currently have 18,000 active cases compared to our 53,000.
 

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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 08 April 2020, 10:10:58 PM »
 Talking of ignoring things.  Do you remember saying this Fazersharp?
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On the subject of experts I think the WHO have done a crap job, they seemed to of dragged their feet at every stage. Very reluctant to call for the next steps needed.
I think after all of this is over the WHO will need to answer some questions.
Yet for decades they have been warning us of the threat of pandemic – not if but when.
They told us back in January that it was now most likely and to prepare the worst.  The UK had done nothing, and did nothing.
Yes we fund the WHO and pay for it’s advice.  But unfortunately we have a ‘had enough of the experts’ government – and people are now dying as a result.
The countries that are doing best in this pandemic are those that have followed WHO advice. 

 

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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 08 April 2020, 09:24:47 PM »

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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 08 April 2020, 09:20:03 PM »
 
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I told you about the European Research Council and thank god we have left the useless EU experiment
Umm, no we haven’t left.  We are in a transition period, and during that transition period we continue as before, paying our dues and in return enjoying full single market access.


The idea of this transition period is to negotiate a future trading agreement, but as you can see yourself both us and the EU have other matters to content with. 



There is of course obviously only one solution.  That is to extent the transition period by a year or two, lets be honest probably two.


And of course, there is also the matter of what lessons can we learn from Covid19.  I would say one of the key lessons is the importance of your immediate neighbours and working together as opposed to the vulnerability of the globalisation.


In other words, I am optimistic that we will revisit BREXIT and chuck it into the trash can history where it belongs. 
 

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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 08 April 2020, 11:13:47 AM »

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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 07 April 2020, 11:08:47 PM »

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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 07 April 2020, 09:16:02 PM »
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Quote<blockquote> Mate my very best wishes to your son, I'm sure he'll pull through.  </blockquote>Quote<blockquote>Jesus.  Hopefully he'll be fine.  Thinking of you bud.</blockquote>
Thanks chaps.  Here's something to ponder.
111 assessment Covid 19 +ve.
999 assessment +ve and advanced symptoms
Ambulance assessment +ve and causing fluid on the lung.
Hospital test Covid-19 -ve but a severely infected lung. So discharged with some antibiotics.
That's a big relief, but at any other time he would have been kept in. What's clear is that if you don't have the virus you will be sent home, however bad you are.
So don't for chrissake do anything silly!

Hopefully he'll start rapidly improving.  Fingers crossed.  All the best.



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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 07 April 2020, 05:54:53 PM »
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Saw my son (key worker) off in the back of an ambulance this morning. Virus + probable fluid on the lung.
Jesus.  Hopefully he'll be fine.  Thinking of you bud.

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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 07 April 2020, 05:51:34 PM »
 
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Foc-u, however, until now, has painted me a picture of the damn Brits as being a rather sensible and productive folk - with absolutely minimum amount of trolling and flaming per post here (my subjective opinion). And loads of excellent technical advice.
Damn Brits?  Good god!  What are you on about!  Not all on this forum are damn Brits :evil   I’m no more a Brit than you are! >:   Well OK, apart from a slight foccin technicality.  :o
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Apologies in advance if this ends up as "moralizing drivel".
No, but I rather suspect the UK is not the only country in the world with raised alcohol consumption just now.
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with absolutely minimum amount of trolling and flaming per post here
Aye, perhaps here, but have you tried twitter? ;)


Talking of Twitter, I have seen numerous such posts stating that Johnson has got what he deserves.  Whilst I detest the man, I still do sincerely hope he recovers, fully and soon.  Boris Johnson was a fit and healthy man, a man with considerable energy and determination – those who are taking pleasure in his suffering just now, well they better watch oot fae the Covid. 
 

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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 07 April 2020, 03:00:59 PM »
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<blockquote><blockquote>That story doesn't make you any less of an insensitive twunt. </blockquote>Are you just determined to drag every single discussion down to personal name calling?

And why?  Cos you cannae accept or understand, that not everybody shares or holds the same views and outlook as yourself.
So ach, why no, so fuck off ya fud.
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Oh bore off you self righteous loud mouth.
All you've done throughout most of your posts is insult and name call Boris Johnson. 


I have never insulted or called Johnson names.

What I have done is call him what he is.

Are you not capable of understanding the difference Darssi?

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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 07 April 2020, 01:57:34 PM »
 Meanwhile,
In the UK.
Total tests carried out – 253,000
Total positive – 51,600
Total deaths – 5373







In Germany
Total test carried out – 920,000
Total positive – 103,700
Total deaths – 1,822
It pays to listen to the experts. 
 

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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 07 April 2020, 01:46:37 PM »
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That story doesn't make you any less of an insensitive twunt.
Are you just determined to drag every single discussion down to personal name calling?

And why?  Cos you cannae accept or understand, that not everybody shares or holds the same views and outlook as yourself.
So ach, why no, so fuck off ya fud.

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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 07 April 2020, 12:00:07 PM »
 Thank goodness wee Nikki has kept the distilleries open oldgit.
 

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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 07 April 2020, 11:58:03 AM »
 
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Quote from: VNA on Today at 11:07:40 AM<blockquote> PM - I wish him well. 
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 I hope the PM makes a speedy and full recovery.
 
The other aspect is.  Mr Johnson is a fit and healthy man.  A man also with considerable energy and drive.  Let’s be honest, when it was first announced he had contracted Covid19, we all thought a week or so in isolation and he’ll be back at No.10 none the worse.
 
Clearly Covi19 is not the flu.  It’s much much more contagious, it already mutating, and if you catch it, which is highly likely, there’s no knowing quite how it will affect you, that is if it affects you at all. 
 
     

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General / Re: The cool bike thread......
« on: 07 April 2020, 11:27:41 AM »

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General / Re: COVID-19 AKA Coronavirus - A sense of proportion...
« on: 07 April 2020, 11:14:40 AM »

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