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A good day out was had I would presume. Weather looked like it was good  :)

Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Fazer 1000 Suspension woes and more
« on: 19 August 2019, 03:02:46 PM »
From their present setting try turning the rebound two clicks in to hard and the compression 2 clicks out to soft.. Slow the rate of rebound is what I eventually did to stop the running wide issue

General / Re: Whoever posts last is best
« on: 19 August 2019, 01:30:41 PM »
Here we go again  :lol

For Sale & Wanted / 2000-2003 FZS600 seat
« on: 18 August 2019, 06:10:37 PM »
Anyone with a good condition seat 2000 to 2003 FZS600 for sale?

 :lol Take heart, You are not the first person to do that.
Enjoy the track day and don't forget to post a few pics  :D

FZS600 Fazer / Re: Rear brake rebuild
« on: 16 August 2019, 06:10:45 PM »
Buy them here instead, great to deal with and they specialise in brakes, both car and bike.

Ah! go on, tell us.  :eek :D


Did you align the punch mark on the pressure plate with the the clutch boss before installing the springs and tightening the bolts.

General / Re: Whoever posts last is best
« on: 14 August 2019, 07:56:10 PM »
Serves you right 🙄

General / Re: Whoever posts last is best
« on: 14 August 2019, 07:52:17 PM »
No you're not 😊

General / Re: Whoever posts last is best
« on: 14 August 2019, 06:04:01 PM »
Enough of these negative waves.  :lol

General / Re: Whoever posts last is best
« on: 10 August 2019, 08:31:05 PM »
WTF!  :lol

As I expected with the relay, when connecting the wires you probably sent 12v straight through the light contacts in the neutral and side stand switches (full S/C), but the diodes in the relay blocked the 12v, however if the diodes had allowed 12v through it was going via a bulb or relay, which thus prevented a full S/C or the wire already had 12v on it.
In any case you are up and running again.

Enjoy yhe rest of the summer now. :thumbup

Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / First spin on an FZ1 and TRX850
« on: 02 August 2019, 08:27:41 PM »
Went to look at an 2011  FZ1 with 21000miles on it  last night with a friend who was interested in buying it. Immaculate except for a small tank dent like a knee dent and a small gouge on on the swinging arm, but nothing major. Didn't realise I knew the owner until we arrived to look at it. There was lot of traffic so the prospective owner just rode it around the car park. Owner offered me a spin on it, at first I declined as I had no gear but he gave me his jacket, helmet and gloves and said go on. Since I ride all the time traffic does not worry me much. I was surprise how quick it was, but a bit snatchy on and off the throttle in the traffic, got through the traffic to a clear bit of road, with a few bends, handled well even though it was a bit hard for my liking, but ruined by one pain in the arse bit, 'the fuel cut off system'. It was like driving a car with turbo lag. I thought this issue was sorted on the later models. If my friend does buy it, the FCE is the first thing I would tell him to fit. It ruined what was otherwise a very nice bike.

The burning question is, Would I change the FZS1000 for one? Absolutely not. The biggest turn off is the small tank compared to the FZS1000.
On the way home my friend gave me the key of his 340hp BMW twin turbo 535d auto estate with paddle shift, what a weapon, every time I powered out of a bend the traction control light kept flashing  :lol tiptronic was surprisingly good very quick to change. Even on sport setting it was not great to hold the road as it rolled a lot, but a rocket in a straight line :D Enjoyed that  :eek

He asked me if he could take my FZS1000 for a spin so he could compare the two when he takes the FZ1 for a spin on Sunday evening. Today we went out swapped bikes (he has an 97 TRX850) he came back with a big grin and his only complaint was it that it was heavy, but then compared to the TRX is weighs a ton. TRX was nice to ride with the riding position very comfortable for a bike with low bars and very very torquey. Took some time to get used to all the torque since I use the gears a lot. That was also a bit hard on the suspension but since he has 4 stone on me it was fine for him. The only issue I found was that the wheel bearing seem to be worn, but we will check them after the weekend.
Nice start to the bank holiday weekend  :D

Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Replace Speedo Sensor on Fazer 1000 Gen1
« on: 02 August 2019, 02:55:17 PM »
Remove the rear shock, the bolts on the coolant bottle and a good ratchet spanner.
You might be able to do it with out removing the shock, but more room to work with the shock off as you can move the coolant bottle out of the way a bit more and it will gives you an opportunity to check the linkage needle bearing for wear.

Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Fazer 1000 Suspension woes and more
« on: 29 July 2019, 09:28:33 PM »
Cheers for the replies fellas.
Thanks for the settings Unfazed, I was around those already as I think that feels the best with how it is.
Yep I changed the fork Oil (5w) when I got it, it was fairly old but not the worst ive seen. I need it for a stint in euope in about a months time, by the replies I think I will go straight to fully splitting them with new bushings then.
How hard is the damper rod on to remove on these, ive diy'd a tool before on simpler forks but this looks a bit more complicated inside.
If lack of oil changes causes internal wear im wondering if my forks have already been damaged then. I noticed this too when I was changing the oil.
Roughly how much did it cost for a rebuild from MCT? Spings, new hardware etc.
The main problem is still a constant juddering and bucking through the bars, even on fairly smooth tarmac. Its not that the settings are a little soft/firm, it just feels like something is fundamentally wrong/broken on them.
Before you start write down the number of clicks back from full hard you have set on the rebound adjuster.
The damper rod is easy to remove, but needs a 26mm socket, It does not require much to hold in in place while loosening the bottom bolt. I used a 3/8 drive 26mm socket duct taped to a straight length of chrome vacuum cleaner pipe. Held it by hand with nitrile gloves on.  Same putting it back in, getting everything to line up was the slow part.Follow the instruction on the Haynes manual which are very good.
Wrap the threads of the upper damper rod with a split piece of petrol pipe and hold it with a vice grip to undo the nut all the rest is easy enough.
Note: Before refitting the rebound adjuster; Set the rebound adjuster half way on its adjustments, it has 42 clicks when of the forks, but only 21 are used from full hard to full soft.
When it is all back together wind the adjuster to full hard and back it off to your settings. Now you can be sure the adjuster is set to full hard not the end of adjustment before full hard is met. That ensures that both dampers are equal. Many put the adjusters back as they come off, but that can end up with both sides different and almost impossible to set the rebound correctly.

Before You strip the forks, check the following:1. The bearings are not worn. (Check this with the calipers off the discs and tied up)
2. The rim is straight
3. The tyre is on straight4. The wheel is balanced5. Headrace bearing are not tight or notched

Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Fazer 1000 Suspension woes and more
« on: 29 July 2019, 11:20:37 AM »
I agree with the sludge build up issue, completely dismantled the forks on the 600 and 1000 early this year as it had not been done for about 5 years. Took a fair amount of time to clean out the internals of the 1000 especially. When I out it all back together the settings I had on the 1000 just did not work even with the same oil. Took a while to get it right again. Especially trying to dial out the biggest issue fault with the standard bike, runing wide out of corners

The standard 1000 front fork springs are way to soft and this is the first port of call to sort out. Whether you go progressive or linear is dependent on your riding,  2 up progressive, always on your own linear. In general it is a matter of personal choice.

General / Re: what did you do with your fazer today ?
« on: 28 July 2019, 11:24:55 PM »
Had a strange feeling from the back wheel of the 1000 over the last few weeks. Felt a bit like going over a pebble mid corner, nothing excessive, but starting getting worse in the last few 100 miles, as if the back was going to slide, especially two up.
Quick check of the rear end, but nothing obviously wrong, removed caliper and wheel bearings felt fine, Removed link arm nothing wrong there, checked the top shock spherical bearing fine (S1000RR Shock) as the link arm was off, no side play just the normal up down bit of the spherical bearing, checked swinging arm, it was fine, removed the wheel, right side bearing had a little bit of play, sprocket bearing no play, took off the sprocket hub found a bit of play in the needle roller bearing. Pulled out the axel and put it in part way from the left to check the needle bearing on its own, quite a lot of play in the needle bearing compared to the right side roller bearing using the same method, but no play in the sprocket carrier bearing.

Decided to order a full set of rear bearings, collar and seals from Marksmans Bearings. Take note, the Collar for the needle bearing has to be ordered separately.

Arrived Thursday and decided to fit them Friday. Removal was going fine, seal out circlip off,  roller bearing out, but what a pain in the arse of a job trying to get the needle bearing out  :rolleyes . We eventually had to use a dremel to cut it (carefully) before we could get it out, sprocket carrier bearing was easy to remove..
All bearings pushed back in, circlip in and seals in. Wheel back on. Out for a spin total transformation, no more weird movements from the rear. :woot

Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Fazer 1000 Suspension woes and more
« on: 28 July 2019, 10:40:00 AM »
Sounds like to much compression damping, try these as a base setting and work from thereFront: drop forks 5mm through yokes.
Compression: five turns back from max.
Rebound: six turns back from max.
Preload: maximum.
Static sag: 24mm.

Rear: compression three turns back from max.
Rebound: maximum.
Preload: 10mm of static sag

FZS600 Fazer / Re: Heavy clutch
« on: 25 July 2019, 10:49:47 PM »
You could cut into the seat hump from underneath seal the internal of the hump and put it in there with a flap for access or seat removal.

FZS600 Fazer / Re: fzs600 2003 light swap
« on: 25 July 2019, 09:22:34 AM »
Some models of bikes have their light beams set straight unlike cars etc & don't pitch to the left or right, not sure if the FZS600 is one of the though or if the beam can be adjusted. Which country are you going to.
This is mainly US imports

FZS600 Fazer / Re: fzs600 2003 light swap
« on: 25 July 2019, 09:20:03 AM »
My 03 1000 is an import and the lights dip the wrong way. Some MOT places are more particular then others and it usually involves ignoring it or some insulation tape each year. Of course I can’t compare to how that would be tested outside of the UK.
Maybe you could swap with Meldoxxas both 600 foxeye and 1000 have the same headlight.

FZS600 Fazer / Re: fzs600 2003 light swap
« on: 25 July 2019, 12:19:26 AM »
It is the reflectors that make the difference, not the lenses. If you can get a damaged EU headlight you could swap the reflectors

General / Re: what did you do with your fazer today ?
« on: 21 July 2019, 12:08:41 AM »
Serious make over of the 600 today and yesterday, fitted 3 new Serie Oro  Brembo discs, calipers cleaned, 3 new sets of brake pads, oil and filter changed, looking forward to a spin tomorrow  :)

Discs were focced, rear was down to 3.6mm with fronts down to 3.3mm
My new best friend in picture 2, blow torch to soften the loctite, had discs off in minutes  :)

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