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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: Today at 01:25:32 AM »

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 18 January 2019, 07:43:58 PM »
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You appear to have repeated everything that I said, so your facts must be right. Well done :)

Yes I am correct.

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 18 January 2019, 06:19:38 PM »
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Be so kind as to indicate what it was I said that wasn't factual.
I already have.

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 18 January 2019, 03:13:38 PM »
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The Japanese made bikes are still cheaper and better than those made in the EU.
I don't see the relevance of that statement, however,


BMW S1000R is £11,190


That undercuts both the MT10 and CB100R+


But whatever, new Japanese bike prices have increased by around 20% since the BREXIT vote.  And we are still right now full members of the EU.


Well done those who voted LEAVE! :eek
 

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 18 January 2019, 02:51:09 PM »
 
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The UK inflation rate fell to 2.1% in December, from 2.3% the previous month, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS).The Consumer Prices Index (CPI) figure was the lowest in nearly two years.


 Talking of inflation, overall inflation has backed off due to a slump in global oil prices.

However, the weak pound is still having an impact on imported goods.



Lest take our bench mark price bike the Yamaha MT10.  Yamaha have just stuck the price up another 300 quid.  The on the road price is now - £11,941  So,


Pre Brexit vote on the road price May 2016 - £9999.00
January 2019 price - £11941.00
 
It’s not just Yamaha, another bike I fancy the Honda CB1000R+



September 2018 price - £12300
January 2019 price - £12600
 
Brexit is already hitting our biking hard.
 
 

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 18 January 2019, 12:41:00 AM »

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 17 January 2019, 10:19:08 PM »
 Another thing aboot the Scottish Parliament is that it is designed to produce minority or coalition governments.


Therefore, legislation can only be passed and the country governed by cross party co-operation and consensus.


Whereas the UK is a first past the post majority system.  Westminster governments govern by majority, and the house is a house of government forcing through it’s agenda, with an opposition trying to hold it to account.  It’s confrontational environment.  A constant battle.



Problem is May has tried to govern by majority and force with a minority government.  Perhaps she should have taken a trip up to Scotland for lessons in minority government and diplomacy.


She just doesn’t get it. 



And here is the current state of the Westminster parliament;

 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
 
 

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 17 January 2019, 09:49:11 PM »
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It took you 1 hour 20 mins to google that info  :rolleyes


Fazersharp, I think you will find Agricola was the one doing the googling.

But it's no much help if ye didnae ken whit ye are readin aboot. ;)   

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 17 January 2019, 09:28:56 PM »
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You seem to be oblivious to political events in Scotland, perhaps you're focusing too hard on events here. Let me enlighten you. The First Minister of Scotland is facing a misconduct investigation for holding a series of meetings with a former First Minister of Scotland, who was recently under investigation himself, but has been successful in his judicial review of the allegations made against him. Why the First Minister felt the need to claim these meetings were unofficial, when  government officials were present, at here home, has yet to be revealed.


This one still has some mileage to go yet. Cant wait  :lol


Oh, and do try and keep up ;)

 The judicial review was in respect of the government investigations into sexual harassment claims against the former First Minister Alex Salmond.  Mr Salmond won his case against government for not following correct procedure.  The allegations against him continue to be investigated by police Scotland.  The judicial review had nothing to do with the actual allegations.


 
Ms Sturgeon meanwhile has referred herself to the parliamentary standards committee.


 
Party leaders in the Scottish Parliament have agreed to set up a cross-party committee to looking into the Scottish Governments handling of their investigation into claims of sexual harassment against Alex Salmond.  The committee is backed by First Minister Nicola Sturgeon.


Best to get yer foccing facts right before you lecture me on Scottish politics Agricola. :rolleyes
 

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 17 January 2019, 08:43:29 PM »

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 17 January 2019, 07:51:04 PM »

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 17 January 2019, 07:48:37 PM »
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Not looking good for Sturgeon either, is it. She could be forced out before May  :rollin


Ms Sturgeon is the First Minister of Scotland.  She sits in the Scottish Parliament.
Ian Blackford is the leader of the SNP at Westminster. 
 

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 17 January 2019, 07:43:44 PM »
Oh yes that's from the Bank of England too! :lol

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 17 January 2019, 07:42:50 PM »
And this is interesting;

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 17 January 2019, 07:40:45 PM »
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Here from the mouth of the BOE --------
Here's something else from the Bank of England;
    Bank of England says no-deal Brexit would be worse than 2008 crisis      Bank warns of immediate economic crash, GDP to fall by 8%, unemployment to rise to 7.5%
   

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 17 January 2019, 06:25:53 PM »
 
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0.5% inflation is not a good thing for the economy which is why the BOE has 2% for its target and anything below or above then they are minded to do something about it.
 Only a Marxist would welcome near to 0% inflation

Wrong again.
The BOE target is to keep inflation below 2%. 
 

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 17 January 2019, 06:09:24 PM »
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They're not in government!!.
But the government is not in government either :lol

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 17 January 2019, 06:08:24 PM »
 
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The UK inflation rate fell to 2.1% in December, from 2.3% the previous month, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS).The Consumer Prices Index (CPI) figure was the lowest in nearly two years. Inflation is being outstripped by average UK pay growth

 UK inflation just before the 2016 referendum was 0.5%
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Proof you talk crap.Here some real facts for you.

 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
 

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 17 January 2019, 03:14:29 PM »

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 17 January 2019, 03:13:48 PM »
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Here's a fact...52% voted Leave, 48% voted Remain :D

But what sort of BREXIT did they vote for?
Here's another fact;
In Scotland everything single council areae voted to REMAIN. :D

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 17 January 2019, 01:01:55 PM »
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"...in my opinion..."
 
 
....which of course you are totally entitled to, just like everyone else, but that's all it is, it does not make you right (or wrong).

Except I’ve backed up my opinion with facts.


Not to mention we haven’t even done BREXIT yet and already the UK economy is showing signs of slipping into recession.  People are losing their jobs, the pound is down, inflation has increased.  Pretty much all the economists are agreed that whatever form of BREXIT the UK goes for (if it does BREXIT at all) it will impact negatively on our economy, with a NO DEAL BREXIT having a potentially devastating impact.


But so far nae foccer here has managed to come up with a solid reason for leaving or managed to name any real advantage in leaving.


What we’ve had from the BREXIT foccers is rhetoric and slogans and little else.  Plus, apparently all our BREXITEERS are happy to be worse off after BREXIT.  A price worth paying apparently.


So yeah well over 2 years past the referendum I’ve no idea why the foc anybody wants BREXIT.  And I’m sorry I don’t see that a damaged economy, job losses and price increases are a price worth paying for zero benefit.


So it appears to me that a great many people in England are into collective self-harm.
 

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 16 January 2019, 11:02:06 PM »
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well, thats not the first time ive been called a stupid cunt (albeit a bit around the houses) and I doubt its the last. hey ho..
Not at all.  I am not calling you a cunt :eek   I do though feel the UK has acted dreadfully towards the EU.
But yes in my opinion BREXIT is absolutely bonkers.  It's collective madness.  Our problems stem from our own sucessive governments not the actions of the EU.
I am impressed, on the other hand, how united the EU is, 27 countreis standing together.  And despite our dreadful behaviour towards them, they continue to hold the door open to us.

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 16 January 2019, 09:45:33 PM »
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can I ask the remainers this. You've seen how much the eu despise us, they have made no effort whatsoever to disguise their contempt, which is absolutely fine by me (much better to know where we stand dontcha think?)
What on earth makes you think the EU despise us?


I don't follow that at all.  It's the UK that's acting as complete and utter (and if I may borrow a word that fazersharp seems to love) cunts towards them.

I mean we have spent over 40 years working with the EU and making the EU what it is today. Only for no apparent reason to loose the plot and threaten to tear up everything we have worked together for for the last 40 years.

I cannot for the life of me understand the shear stupidity of many in England.  And this is an English mess.

The UK is now not just the lauthing stock of the EU, but round the world nations are gobsmacked and stunned at our utter and shear stupidity. 

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 16 January 2019, 08:46:39 PM »
 
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Corbyn makes it a condition in order to get May off the fence. So she has to pick which half of her party to go with. Lots of politicking going on here....

Considering the snooty nosed patronising arrogant way in which the Tories treated Corbyn when he first became leader, and not to mention May’s disgusting spiteful and spineless personal attack on him today, well;

 
Yeah, there is some satisfaction in sitting back and watching Corbyn coolly and calmly start taking the Tory Government apart.  And great pleasure in watching them squirm and take their medicine.
 
I might be right pissed off with Labour, but that is nothing compared to my life long intense dislike of the scum bag Tories.
 

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 16 January 2019, 08:19:44 PM »
 
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May wins confidence vote by majority of 19, but it's the Labour Party who are going to control this situation from now on. Good job their leader is a eurosceptic :)

Yes the right man at the wrong time. :'(   Really pissed off with Labour.  They should have opposed this every step of the way.  However at least Jeremey understands we cannot under any circumstances end up in a NO DEAL situation, and further also understands the importance of having a customs union.


However, we in Scotland are going to continue to push for full EU membership, and if necessary a second Independence Referendum in order that we can REMAIN as full members of the EU. :)
 

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