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Ride goes through the ULEZ zone. That could have been thought through a bit better!
Being a fair distance from London I don’t know too much about ULEZ.  Also, a bit too far for me to join in, but hopefully they’ll get a good turnout. 
Meanwhile the computer says I’d get wacked for £12.50 per day in the ULEZ zone on the old thou!  Foc me! 

Protest ride for Harry Dunn - riders to congregate at US embassy in London

General / Re: This is NOT an attempt to start a discussion...
« on: 25 February 2020, 06:21:53 PM »
You say that about every vote that 'goes the wrong way'
It’s quite simple.  One major issue in the 2014 referendum was the EU.  The line from ‘Better Together’ was that if people voted YES then an Independent Scotland would be outside of the EU and unable to re-join.  They told the people of Scotland that if they wished to guarantee continued membership of the EU then they must vote NO.
We now know that the EU would welcome Scotland as a member.  Secondly, voting NO did not guarantee our continuing membership but has brought it to a close.

You blamed the EU referendum result and the last general election in part on 'lies' by the Tories and the right wing press.
Nothing to do with the fact that Labour picked the most unsuitable, unelectable, extreme left leader they could find since Michael Foot then?.
Just imagine where we'd be now if they'd chosen someone actually electable. Things may have been quite different, but no they chose to throw it all away :rolleyes

Well lets see if Johnson comes up with a 18 billion pound year on year investment in the NHS. :lol
And the reason we ended up where we are today is down to Jo Swinson and the Lid Dems.  Jo, having had delusions of grandeur, decided that she would prioritise attacking Corbyn over stopping BREXIT.  Her route to stopping BREXIT was to become Prime Minister.  But she failed to even hang onto her seat. 

There should have never been a BREXIT General Election. 

General / Re: This is NOT an attempt to start a discussion...
« on: 24 February 2020, 09:59:15 PM »
So if Brexit hadn't happened they'd have dropped independence?.
SNP stands for Scottish National Party.
BREXIT has not yet happened, but it is happening.  Had there been no BREXIT referendum, or the people of the UK, as a whole, had rejected BREXIT, then, at this time, calling for Indyref2 would be very difficult to justify.  ie a non starter.

The SNP had accepted it was a once in a generation opportunity.  The country narrowly rejected that opportunity.  However, the country was miss-led, and there is now major material change in progress.  Circumstances have changed and a second referendum is required, and indeed the mandate is there.

Quite a number of Unionist Tories did point out and warn that BREXIT would lead to Scottish Independence.

Every dirty black cloud has it’s silver lining. :D

General / Re: This is NOT an attempt to start a discussion...
« on: 24 February 2020, 07:57:16 PM »
Exactly. There are NO circumstances in which the SNP sees the Scottish Region remaining within the EU.
Look, the SNP is quite clear, they are against BREXIT, and they are in favour of Scotland, as an independent nation, re-joining the EU post BREXIT.  The SNP have been pro EU for as long as I can remember, and indeed Scotland has benefited hugely from EU membership, particularly through the Common Agricultural Policy and The Rural Development Fund. 
However, I think the SNP needs to review it’s policy, and supporters of Independence need to consider their priorities and what is in the best interests of Scotland in what will soon be a post EU landscape.
In short full EU membership may not be desirable for the Scottish Nation.   Personally, I don’t know, but the smart pro Indy economists need to start looking at different scenarios, creating models and crunching the numbers.
What we ideally need is some sort of customs union with the EU that at same time allows a low friction border with England.
That is of course is just, until inevitably ten years down the line England realises it’s mistake and begins negotiations with the EU to regain it’s single market access. 

Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Quickshifter
« on: 24 February 2020, 06:35:47 PM »
 Anyway, last year I test rode an MT10, a CB1000R and a R1250R.  Both the MT10 and R1250R had quick shifters.
First up was the MT10, I did actually ask if they could switch the quick shifter off as I was worried it would get in the way on the test ride.  No it can’t, and yes it did.  It’s hard to change the habit of a lifetime. I change up without the clutch all the time, I just snap the throttle closed then open, at the same time as prodding the gear lever.  It’s like an automatic reflex.  The MT10 did not like this behaviour one bit, I had to work hard against my instinctive reflex, but towards the end of the test ride I was starting to get the hang of it.  However, I felt that the quick shifter was a bit crude, but maybe that was just me not being used to it.
Next up was the CB1000R.  No quickshifter, so no problems.
Then the R1250R.  I asked again if the quick shifter could be switched off.  Nope sorry.  They told me just to use the clutch like normal if I didn’t want to quick shift.  They didn’t understand when I told them that that’s not normal to me.  Anyway, my brain had actually managed to get the hang of it after the MT10.  But I just found the thing crude and somewhat mechanically unsympathetic – it’s rough.  So, I ended up rolling off the throttle a fraction to compensate – so what’s the point?  Oh, the R1250R had an auto-blipper too, I just about remembered this towards the end of my 2hr test ride.  Maybe it wasn’t set up right, but I only tried it twice, rough as foc – nasty.

As far as I am concerned quick shifters are for racers.  Clutchless shifting without one is easy, anybody can do it.  Leaning to brake and blip the throttle whilst going down the box ain’t that hard either.  Learning these simple skills adds pleasure to riding a bike.

So quick shifter – it’s a no thanks from me. 

General / Re: This is NOT an attempt to start a discussion...
« on: 24 February 2020, 06:11:54 PM »
And this is why the SNP campaign for Scottish Independence is basically dishonest. The SNP has campaigned for independence when Labour was in power, and it campaigned for independence before Brexit was ever on the agenda. It exists to campaign for independence no matter who's in charge, or whether we are in or out of the EU.
The clue is in the name :lol

General / Re: This is NOT an attempt to start a discussion...
« on: 24 February 2020, 06:10:58 PM »
And your previous voting history has resulted in all losses. (Scottish Independence, Brexit, Labour)
With all the verbal diarrhea you constantly spout people might think you'd confidently be on the winning side of voting at least once but so far you've been squashed each time.
And before you come back at me with some boring drivel, when i say squashed i mean you got outvoted, regardless by how much. (unless we're talking about Labour, they got well and truly battered)
Or in lost....2nd past the didn't win.

 Gosh :eek
Sure it would be nice to be winning, but I’ve always considered it more important to be on the right side.
So why should anyone feel the need to believe your predictions for the future when historically your record is totally shite?
Chill out dude.  I’m just sticking my neck out and making a prediction.  I could be wrong, but current trends suggest I might be on the money for the first two, and the third, well even the economists in favour of BREXIT accept that it is bad news for Joe public.

General / Re: This is NOT an attempt to start a discussion...
« on: 23 February 2020, 09:53:06 PM »
You're happy to break up the UK union and take that risk with Scottish independence though
Well no, Scotland didn’t vote for BREXIT.  Scotland doesn’t want the UK to leave the EU.  I like many Scots want self-determination, for very simple reasons, for example Scotland neither voted for BREXIT nor for a Tory government.

The ideal situation would be an Independent Scotland within the EU, along with it’s English partners.  But it’s now clear we ain’t gonna get the ideal situation.  And full EU membership may, or may not, be best for a future Independent Scotland. 

BREXIT is just bad news all round.  It’s a mess.

Anyway, I’ll make a couple of predictions (Oh Lord help me)

Within ten years Scotland will be an Independent nation.
Within 25 years there will be a united Ireland.
At some point in the next 20 years England will negotiate a customs union, or single market membership, with the EU. 

And I dunno what the Welsh are gonna do.

General / Re: This is NOT an attempt to start a discussion...
« on: 23 February 2020, 08:47:37 PM »
The 48% don't want to come back together. They're just hoping and praying that the economy crashes and burns so that they can be 'proved right'

You know if you want to jump of a tall building and flap your arms around thinking you are going to fly.  Well I’m happy to tell you with some certainty that that is not going to happen, and indeed I’ll try and persuade you not to do it.  But if you do go and actually do it, it won’t prove anything, and am not gonna feel happy about it. :(

General / Re: This is NOT an attempt to start a discussion...
« on: 23 February 2020, 07:41:40 PM »

General / Re: Norton go into administration
« on: 23 February 2020, 06:38:12 PM »
Like England and Scotland
Of course.

General / Re: another foccing washout weekend... bloody weather
« on: 23 February 2020, 06:28:38 PM »
It's taking it's toll on our palm trees here. :eek

General / Re: Norton go into administration
« on: 23 February 2020, 06:25:15 PM »
The complete withdrawal of manufacture from the UK yes, as I think you'll find Thailand already has a deal with the EU, so imports from their are like for like or pretty close and labour a fraction of the cost of  UK.  If we don't get a deal anything from the UK will cost more, some industrial bodies are quoting 20% or more.  Within the next few years much of our manufacturing will disappear if we don't get a good deal with the EU.
The likes of Mini (BMW), Toyota, Nissan, whats left of Vaxuhall just vans now I think will go, Honda in Swindon we already know about.  I know people from there and regardless of what's said officially, it is Brexit, they aren't willing to make the future investment in the UK.   
Wait till the financial sector takes it's hit if we don't get a deal!
Anyway enough of the B word, we'll all find out very shortly.

Indeed, we do about almost 50% of our trade with the EU.  Any economist will tell you that your immediate neighbours will always be your most important trade partners.  The EU gives us access to 27 nations, with the 27 governments, around 27 languages, cultures etc, but all operating as one open market under a common set of rules.  It really is quite amazing. 

The EU also gives, or gave us over 50 comprehensive trade agreements across the globe.

Now it looks as we might be about to throw that all away.  The current government is clear that it favours a hard BREXIT, which will make trade more difficult with the EU and the other countries that we access across the globe through those EU stuck deals that we were major negotiators in.

Fours years in, and no clear result insight, few manufactures are prepared to take the considerable risk of investing in the UK, and those that are home grown or have already invested in the UK are, one by one, leaving.

The leading BREXITEERS are comfortable with this.  Both Johnson and Rees-Mogg are admirers of the leading BREXIT economist Professor Minford.  Minford is quite clear, that whilst he favours a hard BREXIT, it will not only destroy UK automotive manufacturing but UK manufacturing as a whole. Not much will be left.

It will be in your interests to do it, just as in the same way we ran down the coal and steel industries
Professor Minford

Remember this is what you voted for.  :o

General / Re: This is NOT an attempt to start a discussion...
« on: 23 February 2020, 06:07:08 PM »

VNA now expects Boris to make the rain stop
One might just expect the government to take stock of increasing flood risks and take action to reduce the risk.  In ten years they have done nothing.

you are a fucking idiot
Thanks for that.  Good day to you too. :)

General / Re: caroline flack
« on: 23 February 2020, 06:02:59 PM »
yup. it was about caroline flack, wasn't it originally?
Yup YamFazFan decided to make it about Boris, The Labour Party and a general election. :eek

General / Re: caroline flack
« on: 23 February 2020, 06:00:20 PM »
So it's alright when nationalism and patriotism sweeps across Scotland then?

Nationalism most certainly has not swept across Scotland.  There is a world of difference between an inclusive movement for self-determination and home rule, which has swept across Scotland, and indeed has strengthened as a result of BREXIT, and the nationalism that is sweeping across England.

General / Re: This is NOT an attempt to start a discussion...
« on: 22 February 2020, 10:24:14 PM »
Eh?. We're referring to ISA's and paying extra into pension schemes. Dunno what you're on about
Big business isn’t interested in ISA’s and pensions, other than trying to do everything they can minimise their pension liabilities, just as they try to avoid paying their employees a decent wage.  Unlike us, big business today often doesn’t pay any tax.

General / Re: The cool bike thread......
« on: 22 February 2020, 10:20:10 PM »
They are probably there so you can adjust your hair when you park up.  Or just for glancing at now and again whilst riding, just so you can check how cool you look on the bike.

General / Re: The cool bike thread......
« on: 22 February 2020, 09:45:03 PM »
I've just took 3 vallium to try and get it out of my mind.
Relax and sooth your mind by looking at this........

General / Re: caroline flack
« on: 22 February 2020, 09:41:47 PM »
Oh of course I forgot, the voters "Got it wrong again"
It's a Tory government, lead, yes, by a homophobic and misogynistic racist liar.  Strange things, not surprisingly are happening, as nationalism and patriotism sweeps across England.
Oh of course I forgot, the voters "Got it wrong again"
Do try and remember that this a government elected by England.  Here this might help....... ;)

General / Re: another foccing washout weekend... bloody weather
« on: 22 February 2020, 07:36:22 PM »
Another shitty weekend;

General / Re: This is NOT an attempt to start a discussion...
« on: 22 February 2020, 04:52:42 PM »
Nothing wrong whatsoever with amassing money or taking advantage of perfectly legal tax minimising measures. Millions of folk do so, including big businesses and tycoons etc...
You're to be congratulated for having such financial acumen
The point is, that in the new low wage hire and fire flexible economy that the Tories want to use BREXIT to create, most will count themselves lucky enough to have the opportunity to pay a little tax, never mind trying to reduce their tax burden or put some cash aside for a rainy day.  I’ve carried my terms, conditions and pension rights through from the day I started working in the 80’s.  I am aware that, despite my employment becoming a little precarious now, that I am also quite fortunate. 

General / Re: caroline flack
« on: 22 February 2020, 04:44:00 PM »

General / Re: caroline flack
« on: 22 February 2020, 04:40:44 PM »
Or the constant stupid and unfunny/offensive cartoons against Boris Johnson which could quite easily be classed as bullying.
In fact it really is thinking about it.
My, my, imagine that, bullying a bully, a homophobic and misogynistic racist liar. :lol

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