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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Calling all Gen2 owners: 2nd gear issue/s
« on: 20 September 2020, 10:21:59 PM »
  • Honda cb1000 is nice and meant to be an adequate replacement for the fz1 (andymancam seems to be quite impressed with his) but for me personally it's not enough if an 'upgrade' for me to warrant spending the price difference
  • I have been looking around for other replacement but seems the Yamahas are quite hard bikes to replace haha
  • Yep and no fairing, the CBF has faring but is both ugly and slow.
  • The FZS is probably the best bike I have ever owned, followed by the GSF1250. If I could retofit ABS to the FZS I would sold!

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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Calling all Gen2 owners: 2nd gear issue/s
« on: 20 September 2020, 08:31:01 PM »
Cheapest to most expensive used -

  • Kawasaki Z1000SX - As fast as the FZ1, plank seat, superior looks, NO center stand.
  • Yamaha Tracer 900 -  Not as pokey as a stock FZS, let alone the FZ1, plank seat, oddball looking bike, HAS center stand.
  • Suzuki GSX-S 1000 - Stupid fast (detuned GSX-R engine) plank seat, oddball looking bike, NO center stand.
  • Kawasaki Versys 1000 - Faster than Tracer, comfortable seat, high seat height, HAS center stand.
The Versys is the most comfortable, but I like the look of the SX and the power it has.
Anyway I have updated the FAQ.

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General / Re: Today's "What Gets My Goat" - NO POLITICS!
« on: 20 September 2020, 04:18:47 PM »
Two sports bikes overtaking and undertaking me as I came off a round about. First came around my outside, but I blocked the second when it tried to under take me. Both Cnuts were on euro plates and mistakenly think they are untraceable...

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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Uneven brake pad wear
« on: 20 September 2020, 04:14:04 PM »
Last place I went to for immobiliser installation I had to catch a taxi back as they didn't have the insurance to lend me a bike.
They don't need insurance,  :groan as long as you have a policy that allows to you ride other bikes your good to go.

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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Calling all Gen2 owners: 2nd gear issue/s
« on: 20 September 2020, 04:11:41 PM »
So in my epic quest to find a 'good all round FZ1' I test rode another one, this time a 2007 with 15k. Below 3k same notchiness in-between 1st & 2nd and sometimes going into neutral. Below 2k even worse and going into neutral a lot and at 1k the bike did not want to play nice at all. Above 3k (20+ mph) it was mostly fine with only the occasional notchiness.

So thats 3 FZ1's I have test ridden and all but one doesn't want to play nice below 3k going from 1st to 2nd.

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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: rear shock replacment
« on: 19 September 2020, 08:57:09 PM »
The rule of thumb when it comes to YSS, is never ever fit them unless your desperate and absolutly need the bike on the road. Even then dont fit one, just buy a low mileage OEM shock it will be far cheaper and actually work better. (I have a OEM in good condition with I think 15k on it - http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?topic=26308.msg317300#msg317300)

If some one on here has the BMW shock and thier weight is similar to your then unless someone corrects me, I would say thats a safe bet. Another option is see if anyone has a Devilsyam R6 modded shock £200-300. Of lastly if you have the cash there is an Ohlins with tool-less adjustable pre-load for sale on here £500 - http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?topic=26390.0

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General / Re: fazer 2002 or 2003
« on: 19 September 2020, 08:47:05 PM »
Are you referring to a foxeye 600? If sojust look on fowlers -
Parts 18/17 -

17 - 5RT-2836A-00


18 - 5RT-2836A-00


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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Uneven brake pad wear
« on: 19 September 2020, 08:41:54 PM »
  • Thanks man! I'd be on more often if the site wasn't blocked by work, as I rarely switch my pc on after work.
  • The dealer is the same one who passed my MOT when the tyre pressures were about 20psi  :eek
  • Use a VPN, or use on yer phone
  • Sounds you need to find a different local shop, they clearly cant be trusted. The above is a revocation of their MOT license and a fine if they were to be reported.

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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Uneven brake pad wear
« on: 19 September 2020, 05:32:52 PM »
Oh and the rubbing sound is the metal backing material of one of the pads rubbing against the disc, better replace the pads now before you start doing damage to the disc/s.
And Welcome back fella.

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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Uneven brake pad wear
« on: 19 September 2020, 05:29:19 PM »
  • Took it back and they said it was the front wheel bearing.
  • So I took the brake calipers off (they were a bit sticky), and the front left(facing the bike) has almost worn out the inside pad.
  • But it's a bit odd to have just one pad worn out - does that indicate some other issue?
  • And does anyone recommend some replacement pads?
  • Of course they are going to state an expensive job, I imagine they didn't even test the bike and the 'diagnosis' was from the sales/service guy.... :2fingers
  • There is your answer, one or more of your pistons on the opposit side to the pad that is badly worn is sticking, simples.
  • Nope, its called sticking pistons. If you have the time I would recommend a full caliper service, its easy enough.
  • Either gen Yamaha if you can find them checp enough, failing that SBK (Gnasher recommends) or worse case EBC.

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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Calling all Gen2 owners: 2nd gear issue/s
« on: 19 September 2020, 10:20:35 AM »
Nope despite asking for it before going down there. And its gets better the sales guy even came out with the immortal line 'try changing up to 2nd at higher rpm' to which I replied "Are you serious?, so the takeaway here is you guys don't know whats wrong the bike?" And this is after he said he had seen this issue before and was able to make it happen on demand.

The shop in question was West London Yamaha, spoke to one of their techs yesterday and was told sales guy doesn't know wtf he is talking about. Lesson here, always talk direct to a senior tech. More fool me for stupidly thinking I was going to get treated with some modicum of respect from a so called premier Yamaha stealer. Pointed out their idiotic advice to Yamaha UK, will see what comes of it.

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For Sale & Wanted / Re: Looking for an exup valve.
« on: 18 September 2020, 03:35:44 PM »
They can be straightened. I put the shaft of mine is a drill at very low speed and I could see how bent it was. Slow tugs on the valve will straighten, take your time!
+1 on that, its easy. Just a variable speed drill and a rubber mallet.

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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Calling all Gen2 owners: 2nd gear issue/s
« on: 18 September 2020, 02:38:49 PM »
Well I test rode a 2006 FZ1 w/23k at lunchtime and its a different bike gearbox wise. No notch when going between 1st to 2nd, and no problem going into 2nd at anywhere from 2k to 5k. You can tell its a 2006 ECU though, bugger all power at all below 5k compared to the 2009.

So while it means there is def an issue with the 2009 I have and it will be going back. The good news is not all FZ1's as per the replies in this thread and the above test ride have a weird gearbox issue. So will just have to keep an a eye out for another FZ1... :\

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General / Re: Three word story
« on: 16 September 2020, 04:15:54 PM »
Whats the F***
Bunch of Arse.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Starter motor is clicking but won’t start
« on: 16 September 2020, 08:55:55 AM »
Try the jump start first. My money is on the battery being knackered.
+1

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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Calling all Gen2 owners: 2nd gear issue/s
« on: 16 September 2020, 08:51:31 AM »
And to answer your other question is the engine out of a 2004 R1 thats in the Gen2
Yep issues with 2nd gear, but the cause seems to be wheelying...
And the fact one of the fork seals on this FZ1 had to be replaced, that seems like this bike suffered the same issue. Well the bike is going to be diagnoses by a premier Yamaha dealer on Thursday, but right off the bat the service tech said when I described the symptoms it sounded like the bike have been clutched/wheelied. If this is the conclusion then the bike is going back to the shop I bought it from for a full refund or at worst refund minus deposit to cover increase in owners on the logbook (yes the shop is being cheeky, but being pragmatic its a damn sight cheaper on my wallet than getting the engine fixed down the road and the mental stress of living with it until it gets repaired.)

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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Calling all Gen2 owners: 2nd gear issue/s
« on: 16 September 2020, 08:32:04 AM »
If you do some searches you will find a fair few complaints about the gear change from first to second, I think its just a characteristic of the bike, maybe its cause first gear is so tall.
Are I was worried that might be the case, but that said a 2 other FZ1 riders said they didnt have an issue with second gear. I really need to test ride a few FZ1's, but as I found over the last 6 months they aren't coming up locally.

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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Calling all Gen2 owners: 2nd gear issue/s
« on: 15 September 2020, 10:20:57 PM »
Same 13k, and yeah 2 different sets of sports boots. But fyi said boots have worked just fine on all the other bikes I have ridden in the last 12 months.

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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Calling all Gen2 owners: 2nd gear issue/s
« on: 15 September 2020, 09:35:39 PM »
Can't say I've ever had an issue, and I know it well with my last bike being a thundercat
Well Gnasher did warn me on multiple occasions that the FZ1 is mechanically inferior to the FZS in term of build quality, I just wasn't expecting a gearbox that would try to munch itself.

Im inclined to agree that despite then occasional hiccup it isn't really an issue on these gen 2s and its never caused me concern
So Gen2's dont typically suffer from issues with second gear? That would suggest then that at some point my Gen2 has had some abuse at some point that is only now manifesting itself.

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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Calling all Gen2 owners: 2nd gear issue/s
« on: 15 September 2020, 09:32:39 PM »
  • If I've done any kind of block change
  • If the box gets confused when going down just feather the clutch out a little and it slots straight in.
  • Block change..?
  • I only have an issue going up, and as Im moving all I can do is pull in the clutch and painfully clunk it in to second - which cannot be good for the gearbox components.

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General / Re: Today's "What Gets My Goat" - NO POLITICS!
« on: 15 September 2020, 09:02:59 PM »
Yes, but we are not here to deal with people acting like 12yr olds and using this as their personal sandbox.

If bollox like this keeps appearing in threads, people will find themselves on the end of a temp ban.

Keep it up and be banned period.
 

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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Calling all Gen2 owners: 2nd gear issue/s
« on: 15 September 2020, 07:04:30 PM »
Gnasher and I have already chatted at length about this, but I am curious to hear if any other Gen2 owners have have the same issue I am seeing or any other 2nd gear related issues. So here is the history on this -

Riding
  • If I change gears gently, roughly a 1/3 of the time it will go into the neutral instead of 2nd
  • If I make a conscious effort to firmly engage 2nd gear, I can feel the foot lever notch twice (so into neutral and then into second)
  • If I give it some welly away from the lights, so far I have found it goes into second no problem (I assume because I am being far less gentle with the foot lever).

Checks
  • Gear lever rubber – This is in good condition, with little to no wear
  • Gear lever linkage - There is no slack in the gear lever, it is correctly adjusted for my foot/boot.
  • Clutch lever stack -  It appeared to be correctly adjusted and the span adjustment set for my hand size.
  • Rear drive chain  - It is correctly adjusted.
  • Dirt/Old engine oil - The bike has had a recent oil and filter change.

Update
  • Today I moved the lever down one spline on the the gear change shaft, so that its over adjusted and a little bit too low to deliberately give me more upward movement. I also checked and re-adjusted the clutch lever so it was giving me atleast 3mm on full left/right lock. Then spent a few hours riding around.
  • What I found was it 'mostly' removed the 'going into neutral instead of second'. It did not remove the 'knotch' that I was getting every few gear changes. But then on the way home doing 20mph behind a car, I snicked from 1st into second and sure enough, went into fucking neutral, and it was going so well.

So in addition to my other owners request above, What R1 did the engine for the FZ1 come from? so I can check if owner of that year etc have had issue with 2nd gear etc.

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Front page / Re: Yamaha Motorcycles UK: contact number change
« on: 15 September 2020, 06:37:55 PM »
The 01932 number still works, but don't know for how much longer.

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Front page / Yamaha Motorcycles UK: contact number change
« on: 14 September 2020, 04:57:12 PM »
For anyone that is interested Yamaha UK have remove the Surrey number (01932 3580000) from the website. Its now showing an 0203 027 5116 number, and you just get through to the Netherlands where you are not speaking to a technical person.

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General / Re: Today's "What Gets My Goat" - NO POLITICS!
« on: 14 September 2020, 09:43:35 AM »
So yet another misguided waste of public money, lowering speed limits in the name of pollution reduction (NO2) -

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-54130862

Just waiting for the other shoe to drop, you know the one where its part of a money making ponzi scheme to fleece the motorist, aka ULEZ.


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