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This idea grew off the back of ‘doing something special’ to celebrate 20 years of Spring Meet.

In simple terms the plan was to attend the Spring Meet then pitch off on the Monday to ‘the ferry’ then blat across France/Belgium/Germany to Nurburg and the Nurburgring.   Fine in principle but in practically not so good as people tired, need fresh clothes etc.

Also the dates may not have aligned with the opening times for the Ring (it is open selected evenings and weekends).   So the plan now is to go sometime in June (maybe July) or September potentially leaving midweek to coincide with the Ring calendar to be able to be there to coincide with at an evening session and weekend day.  It also needs to be borne in mind that the Ring can be scheduled to be open and then can be closed (e.g. if someone bins it) - so you if you only have one window and it ends up being closed when you get there, it’s a long way to go to be disappointed).

Outline plan would be:
…erm haven’t got that far yet

Oh and you need to have attended at least one Spring Meet to join this foray.

Express interest, ideas below.  It doesn't have to be Nurburgring but the advantages are, it is iconic and can be done in less that a week (as not all of us have endless holidays available, or are in the holiday = not getting paid category).






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Well would you believe it? 20 Years of the “original and best”TM S P R I N G   M E E T!

To celebrate this momentous occasion, we will be frequenting the now established location at West End, unsurprisingly on the Spring Bank Holiday weekend Friday 22 to Monday 25 May 2020.

Some changes to the usual format in light of this 20 year milestone:
  • following consultation with the Spring Meet Entertainments Officer (Heath) there will be bands on both Friday and Saturday nights (details below)
  • as 10 years ago - fireworks !  … but this is tbc dependent upon numbers (cost consideration)
  • a follow on tour for those who want it/can afford it - summary below to be elaborated in a separate thread
Venue

Same as previously:  West End Outdoor Centre, Bank Dike Hill, Thruscross, Harrogate, HG3 4BA - this postcode will take you past it - Sat Nav Coords: Lat:54.013713 Long:-1.779242

When
 
Spring Bank 'Oliday weekend i.e. arrive Friday 22-May - stay for three nights - fek off 'ome Monday 25-May (Bank 'Oliday)

Pricing
 
Venue hire is £1100 for the three nights (same as last year) which ~ £37 per person per bunk total for the full three nights - still a  'kin bargin!
 
Total 'all in' for bunk, food, booze will be £110 (currently) see Pricing Summary below.
 
## camping and dossing down is free as previously ##  but if all bunks are not filled then a contribution will be required from campers/dossers !!
 
Deposits and Payment
 
Normally those who subsequently cannot make it will get their deposit/money back assuming the place can be passed on.  Otherwise the shortfall has to be covered by those who have attended.
 
As every year you have plenty of time to ‘book the time off’; that said I appreciate "stuff" happens and can't be avoided - be assured I will try me very best to refund you if this happens and your excuse is genuine. I have already paid the £200 deposit to secure the booking. I need to pay the FULL balance for the accommodation (by the end of April).
 
On this basis I will be expecting a minimum deposit (per bunk place) of £50 no later than 31-March.Priority for bunk places will be given to those paying deposits -  A deposit can be any amount £10 or upwards but only full £50 will secure your place.  Multiple deposits are fine but I'd prefer it all in one i.e. for bunks the full £50.
 
I will be expecting payment IN FULL (i.e. total inc. food) no later than two weeks prior to the meet. If you have not payed in full by 8-May then, if demand, your place will be offered to others. Deposits will only be refunded in exceptional circumstances or your place is taken.  If your place is taken, the person taking it pays me the difference between the deposit paid (by you) and the total amount payable i.e. you are responsible for recovering your deposit from them yourself (obviously I will put you in contact with them).  Anyone dropping out at the "last minute" will only be refunded in exceptional circumstances.
 
Food/beer/band/sundries
 
will be ca. £70 per head -  tee-totalers get a corresponding reduction on the cost; reduction if you don't drink alcohol ca. £20.
 
Veggies note as I will still be buying you some veg food then as this roughly equates with the cost for BBQ and breakfast meat there is no reduction. You need to tell me what you want - alternatively if you want to cater for yourself (bring your own or eat twigs and leaves from outside etc) then a ca. £12 reduction applies.
 
This has always been a three night event for the bunks.  If you want to stay for less then fine, but again I've booked for three nights so you pay for three nights.  Popping over for one night only? Normally anyone who turns up on the Sunday (or other night but there is unlikely to be any spare bunks on the Fri and Sat) and takes a vacated bunk chucks some money in the kitty (assuming you want to eat and drink) - £25 for Friday or £35 Saturday.
 
Note if you are camping or dossing you only pay for the nights you are staying.
 
You can pay me by Bank Transfer or PayM using my mobile number (or Paypal but bank transfer my preference...) - note the bank details changed three years ago! so check first before paying - the correct/valid account number ends ….4567.
 
##DO NOT## use the PM feature to contact me - use email, Whatsapp or Facebook Messenger!
 
Pricing Summary (guide)
 
Bunk + Food + Meat + Booze = £110 per person - for campers £73
Bunk + Food + Meat = £90 per person (teetotalers) - for campers £53
 
See note above for vegetarians (and god forbid vegans :pokefun )
 
These are subject to confirmation but generally any uplift has previously been less than £5 per person overall.
 
Saturday Entertainment
 
Friday night - Reload (same band as last three years)
 
Saturday night - Kindred (recently discovered by our resident A&R man Heath)
 
Sunday - entertain yer fekkin sens

Beverages
 
Sufficient quantities of alcoholic and non-alcoholic are provided as usual.
 
Food
 
As always there will be the usual (my excellent local butchers) BBQ fayre for the Friday and Saturday nights together with the usual snacks etc. For Sunday night: tbc
 
There will be a stupendous full cooked breakfast on the Sat and Sun mornings subject to volunteer cooks!! (Neil) and washer uppers)
 
Camping (FREE)
 
Camping is free (just pay for food/booze/entertainment) - unless all bunks are not filled in which case a contribution will be reqd!
 
Dossing Down Inside (also FREE)
 
Dossing is free (just pay for food/booze/entertainment) - unless all bunks are not filled in which case a contribution will be reqd!  This is an alternative to camping but all you need to bring is a sleeping bag and it’s warm and dry!. This option will be limited to a maximum of ten people (due to space and I only have five airbeds - and I really can't be arsed).
 
Follow on Tour - “Stags in the Ring” (Nurburgring)
 
There was some talk about changing the venue for this year to somewhere posher or even going abroad, however, as i) the venue is part of what makes the meet and ii) flitting off to some exotic location (e.g. big villa in the sun) would be cost prohibitive for many, consensus was to arrange a follow on trip across the water, likely into the Fatherland to take in the Nurburgring.  The detail for this is in a separate thread: http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?topic=25908.0

Booking Summary

Note to those who have paid deposits already - check I have got this right!


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General / FZ1 / FZ8 Pillion Seat - Does either directly fit to FZ1-S
« on: 21 August 2019, 10:45:21 AM »
does anyone know if the FZ1 (naked) pillion seat will fit the FZ1-S? And/or is the FZ-8 seat compatible (with FZ1-S)? I didn't fasten mine down properly (for the second time 🤔) and when arriving at destination it was gone... :\
Or if anyone has a spare pillion seat??

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Events, Meets, Ride outs etc / Re: Calling all loFos
« on: 01 May 2019, 01:03:43 PM »
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calling all loFos

COME TO SPRING MEET !!

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Venue Same as previously:  West End Outdoor Centre, Bank Dike Hill, Thruscross, Harrogate, HG3 4BA - this postcode will take you past it - Sat Nave Coords: Lat:54.013713 Long:-1.779242


When

Spring Bank 'Oliday weekend i.e. arrive Friday 24-May - stay for three nights - fek off 'ome Monday 27-May (Bank 'Oliday)Pricing It has gone up to £1100 for the three nights (was £1050 last year) which is £35 per person per bunk total for the full three nights - still a  'kin bargin!

Total 'all in' for bunk, food, booze is £90 (currently) see Pricing Summary below.

## CAMPING AND DOSSING DOWN IS FREE AS PREVIOUSLY ##  BUT IF ALL BUNKS ARE NOT FILLED THEN A CONTRIBUTION WILL BE REQUIRED FROM CAMPERS/DOSSERS !!

Deposits and Payment

Normally those who subsequently cannot make it will get their deposit/money back assuming the place can be passed on.  Otherwise the shortfall has to be covered by those who have attended.

As every year you have plenty of time to ‘book the time off’; that said I appreciate "stuff" happens and can't be avoided - be assured I will try me very best to refund you if this happens and your excuse is genuine.I have already paid the £200 deposit to secure the booking. I need to pay the FULL balance for the accommodation (by the end of April).

On this basis I will be expecting a minimum deposit (per bunk place) of £40 no later than 31-March.Priority for bunk places will be given to those paying deposits -  A deposit can be any amount £10 or upwards but only full £40 will secure your place.  Multiple deposits are fine but I'd prefer it all in one i.e. for bunks the full £40. 

I will be expecting payment IN FULL (i.e. total inc. food) no later than two weeks prior to the meet. If you have not payed in full by 10-May then, if demand, your place will be offered to others. Deposits will only be refunded in exceptional circumstances or your place is taken.  If your place is taken, the person taking it shall pay me the difference between the deposit paid (by you) and the total amount payable i.e. you are responsible for recovering your deposit from them yourself (obviously I will put you in contact with them).  Anyone dropping out at the "last minute" will only be refunded in exceptional circumstances.

Food/beer/band/sundries

will be ca. £55 per head -  tee-totalers get a corresponding reduction on the cost; reduction if you don't drink alcohol ca. £24.

Veggies note as I will still be buying you some veg food then as this roughly equates with the cost for BBQ and breakfast meat there is no reduction.  You need to tell me what you want - alternatively if you want to cater for yourself (bring your own or eat twigs and leaves from outside etc) then a ca. £5 reduction applies.

This has always been a three night event.  If you want to stay for less then fine, but again I've booked for three nights so you pay for three nights.  Popping over for one night only? Normally anyone who turns up on the Sunday (or other night but there is unlikely to be any spare bunks on the Fri and Sat) and takes a vacated bunk chucks some money in the kitty (assuming you want to eat and drink) -  £20 is about right (£25 for Saturday).   

Note if you are camping or dossing you only pay for the nights you stop.

You can pay me by Bank Transfer or PayM using my mobile number(or Paypal but bank transfer my preference...) - note the bank details changed two years ago! so check first before paying - the correct/valid account number ends ….4567.##DO NOT use the PM feature to contact me - use email, Whatsapp or Facebook Messenger!


Pricing Summary (guide)

Bunk + Food + Meat + Booze = £90 per person - for campers £57
Bunk + Food + Meat = £66 per person (teetotalers) - for campers £31

See note above for vegetarians.

These are subject to confirmation but generally any uplift has previously been less that £5 per person overall.

Saturday Entertainment -  TBC

Thinking of giving the band a miss this year.  This will reduce the cost per person (for those staying Saturday) by ca. £6.

What do people think?


Beverages

Sufficient quantities of alcoholic and non-alcoholic are provided as usual.


Food


As always there will be the usual (my excellent local butchers) BBQ fayre for the Friday and Saturday nights together with the usual snacks etc. For Sunday night: tbc


There will be a stupendous full cooked breakfast on the Sat and Sun mornings (subject to volunteer cooks!! and washer uppers)


Camping (FREE)


Camping is free (just pay for food/booze) - unless all bunks are not filled in which case a contribution will be reqd!

Dossing Down Inside (also FREE)


Dossing is free (just pay for food/booze) - unless all bunks are not filled in which case a contribution will be reqd!  This is an alternative to camping but all you need to bring is a sleeping bag. This option will be limited to a maximum of ten people (due to space and I only have five airbeds - and I really can't be arsed).


Booking Summary


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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Oil consumption
« on: 29 August 2018, 07:24:29 AM »
Quote
I find they use a bit if caned


[/size]I concur ;)

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General / Re: Honda Fireblade
« on: 19 July 2018, 12:10:55 PM »
looks smart  :thumbup

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Thanks to everyone for coming.   Great to see the usual faces, a few not seen for a while and some newcomers (who were all made welcome - thanks).


Thanks to all the cooks, washers uppers etc and for everyone getting the place back in order this morning.  A record; I was back home for 11:00 (but was up at 05:30).


Will be posting for SM19 shortly but for the record those with deposits paid and/or credits are:


Neilly & Ally - £40
Dooks & Fluffs - £40
Daz & V - £50
Hobbsy - £5
Eddie & Val £50
Stef - £7.50
Louthyz - £90
Oldgit - £13
Hamos - £5
Midden - £30


Place is booked and deposit paid for next year.






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spreadsheet updated especially for you Steve ;)


not sure if anyone else from Midlands - ask question on the facebook group

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Just to let you know this is closed for rebuild so on way back from rideouts Saturday bear this is mind


Alternatives en route:


Gulf Kirkby Stephen CA19 4RP - open to 19:00
DT Close, Sedbergh LA10 5HJ (on A685/A683 junction) - open to 17:00
Town End Garage, Casterton, LA6 2RX (on Sedbergh Road 1/2 mile north from Devils’ Bridge) - open to ?
BP Kendal Road, Kirkby Lonsdale LA6 2HH (1.5 miles west on A65 from Devil’s Bridge) - open to 20:00
Co-op Settle, BD24 9JD - open to 23:00
after that its Skipton (Devils' Bridge to Skipton 32 miles)

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General / Re: Powerbronze Double Bubble on Box Eye FZS600
« on: 16 May 2018, 02:04:20 PM »
short answer yes - a worthy addition but best mod is downgearing  :b

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no problem Mustang


Dispunk - you coming?


others reminder that payment details have changed - see top message

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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: FZ1 chain adjusters
« on: 26 April 2018, 11:00:02 AM »
easy swap with some M8 stainless steel set screws and nuts

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Now then Brian - cheers for the doh - I've updated the first post and added you

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Rob as our message exchange - great that you (and Helen) are coming !  :lol

Will put you down as two dossers for now (ready to upgrade to bunks is two become available)

Correction - thanks to Midden you now have a bunk each (I'll put you in a four berth with Ian and Soraya - unless you want to chance it in once of the sweaty/snory rooms...)








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General / Re: Tyre question
« on: 04 April 2018, 12:03:31 PM »
on my FZ1-S I've been in PR2 for ages.  Did try PR3 and noticed little difference other than rear only lasting 2.5k miles.  PR2 rear lasts me for 4k miles and 2:1 rear/front replacement ratio (just).  Last set were Roadtec 01s (on offer where I go £30 off pair ) - in comparison to PR2 the 01s never spun up once in the wet (good) but rear squared off badly and no way front was going to last two rears.    Got 4k out of the rear.Now have Road 5 set on (these were on offer this time - £30 off pair) - tread pattern looks 'good' - time will tell - tbh if these hadn't been on offer I'd have gone for a set of PR2 again.


When I had my six my regular tyre was 020, 021, 023 - tried 016 once (in the dry they were fantastic - but rear didn't last long 2k miles)


Update Sep 2018:  PR5 - rear lasted 4k!  front about 1k left to go - gone back to PR2s!  At least I know I've got another 4k miles to go!

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OK Dis.Punk noted


No issue with just turning up on spec. - hope to see you there (and Preston less than  an hour away)

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Wet grip tyre recommendation
« on: 03 April 2018, 01:27:12 PM »
Not sure about sized for the six but on my FZ1-S I've been in PR2 for ages.  Did try PR3 and noticed little difference other than rear only lasting 2.5k miles.  PR2 rear lasts me for 4k miles and 2:1 rear/front replacement ratio (just). 


Last set were Roadtec 01s (on offer where I go £30 off pair ) - in comparison to PR2 the 01s never spun up once in the wet (good) but rear squared off badly and no way front was going to last two rears.    Got 4k out of the rear.


Now have Road 5 set on (these were on offer this time - £30 off pair) - tread pattern looks 'good' - time will tell - tbh if these hadn't been on offer I'd have gone for a set of PR2 again.


When I had my six my regular tyre was 020, 023 - tried 016 once (in the dry they were fantastic - but rear didn't last long 2k miles)


Update 26/09/18: PR5 rear lasted 5k miles  (about 1k left on front) - gone back onto PR2s and will stick with them - might get back to 2:1 ratio


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NornIrish


Yes places available - sent you a PM - sign up and send me a deposit!


 :D

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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Fz1 centre stand
« on: 19 March 2018, 08:46:25 AM »
My FZ1S has a MIVV exhaust and this doesn't have a stop for the ctr stand.  It's been like that since I bought the bike in 2009 so safe to say "won't do any harm"

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looks like Mustang and Disorderlypunk have been scared off  :\

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General / Re: Hello
« on: 07 March 2018, 08:54:48 PM »
good to hear from you Madders old boy

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@Mustang and Disorderly Punk - just send me your deposits and come!


Stef was a newbie last year - he's coming back and met some mates who he now goes on rideouts with - like I said unless you are a boring fart YOU WILL ENJOY



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