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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 20 January 2019, 09:00:24 PM »
Here are some of the quotes from the Vote Leave campaign prior to the referendum :

''There is a European free trade zone from Iceland to the Russian border and we will be part of it… Britain will have access to the Single Market after we vote leave…''
“It will be possible to negotiate a new settlement with the EU, including a UK-EU free trade deal, by the next general election in May 2020''
''There will be no change to the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic''

And finally from Michael Gove  ''If we vote to leave then I think the union will be stronger…  I think when we vote to leave it will be clear that having voted to leave one union the last thing people in Scotland wanted to do is to break up another.”

So that's what you all voted for, and now you're complaining?

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 20 January 2019, 08:27:23 PM »
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I don't recall any talk of 'deals' when we voted to leave the EU in the 2016 referendum. I assumed we would just come out and that's it.
And there you have exactly summed up the current problem. The box on the paper said 'Leave'. It should have said 'Leave and then what?' It certainly didn't say 'Leave with no deal' whatever people's assumptions are now. I distinctly remember the Leave campaigns making a big point that it would be 'easy to do a trade deal with the EU once we have left'. Talk of a 'Norway style arrangement' and that the EU would be begging us for a deal.


Remainers all know exactly what they want  ;)


So here we all are.......  In a mess.

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 20 January 2019, 07:11:37 PM »
But none of this matters....... because (apparently) us Remainers are going to 'steal Brexit' and you are certainly not going to get the 'No Deal' version you mistakenly assume 52% voted for.


There will be a deal of some sort with the EU,  however much you might whinge about it.



So get over it  :lol

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 20 January 2019, 12:46:22 PM »
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mtread is definitely living in an alternative reality to the rest of us
Indeed I am. It's called 'the real world'  :lol

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Dazza, you posted that at 2am! Had one side of your electric blanket gone cold?  :lol

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 20 January 2019, 12:16:23 PM »
As you all very well know...... all trade within the EU is tariff free.  :)


Unless of course you distort the facts to support a particular view. Or you must have had a 'Boris moment' when you mix up what you are saying and pretend it never happened  :lol

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 19 January 2019, 11:36:49 PM »
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There is nothing "free" about trade through the EU
Would you care to explain?  :rolleyes

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 19 January 2019, 02:54:03 PM »
And no, Remain wants even more democracy  :D

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General / Re: ULEZ and Euro 3
« on: 19 January 2019, 02:52:46 PM »
Volunteers?

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 18 January 2019, 07:53:16 PM »
.

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 18 January 2019, 03:32:38 PM »
Good one Dazza  :car :thumbup

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 18 January 2019, 12:56:09 AM »
Anyway, what's far more important is that some 97 year old driver has pulled out of a side road and written off two cars. Shouldn't be allowed out!

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 18 January 2019, 12:53:08 AM »
For every Dianne Abbott there is an Andrea Leadsome, the thickest woman in Parliament  :lol

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 17 January 2019, 06:16:29 PM »
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There is only 1 Marxist on this forum 

Is that a confession?  :eek

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 17 January 2019, 06:13:48 PM »
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The last thing any of us need right now is a Marxist in number 10.
After years of austerity, where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, what we need now is a Socialist in number 10  :)

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 17 January 2019, 05:56:06 PM »
Can't have it both ways. He can't 'see that Article 50 and the democratic will of the people is carried out' if he's not in government :)
Marxists are Communists. He's a Socialist

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 17 January 2019, 01:58:56 PM »
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His 'job' is to honour the Labour Party manifesto and see that Article 50 and the democratic will of the people is carried out.
And he is. You are missing out the bit the bit in the manifesto that said we must join a Customs Union.


By the way, I'm expecting Cabinet resignations over the weekend  :)

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 17 January 2019, 12:33:16 PM »
No they won't compromise..... by just doing what May tells them  :rolleyes

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 17 January 2019, 11:18:54 AM »
Now joined by SNP and Lib Dems who lay down conditions and won't talk either No trap  :)

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 17 January 2019, 10:30:10 AM »
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And Corbyn's not being a stubborn man I suppose
Of course he is, but he is the official opposition. It's his job.
Anyway, May has enough problems with a divided cabinet. Gaulk says Customs Union option, Fox says not. Perhaps her first job should be to talk to them.
Hammond tells business leaders that No Deal will be taken off the table within days, yet May refuses to agree to rule it out.
SNP says this morning it won't discuss Brexit unless May considers 2nd Referendum.
Not looking good for May is it? :rolleyes

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 16 January 2019, 11:55:53 PM »
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Here it is as I don't think you will see it on the BBC.
Excellent, good on her, except I see they have subtitled it 'Sea UNT' :lol
And to think it all started with the Sex Pistols saying 'Fuck' on TV in 1976

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 16 January 2019, 11:19:07 PM »
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No deal HAS to remain on the table. Germany is in the brink of recession - the possibility of a no deal may just persuade them to renegotiate.

But it won't. They've said so. That sort of brinkmanship won't work. All of the EU member states have come out today as united. Anyway, what is it exactly that you want the EU to renegotiate? A while ago on here it was all about 'No Deal' in which case there is nothing to negotiate. The EU would allow that, but of course Parliament won't :lol

May seems to be saying to the opposition parties, 'let's talk about my deal, under my conditions, so you can all agree with me'. She continues to be a stubborn woman under an illusion that she is in control. The problems and divisions are still within her own party and she is trying to hide it.

All to play for  :)

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 16 January 2019, 08:27:25 PM »
Corbyn makes it a condition in order to get May off the fence. So she has to pick which half of her party to go with. Lots of politicking going on here....

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 16 January 2019, 08:06:24 PM »
DUP asks May for £100 billion as they show again they own her arse  :lol

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General / Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« on: 16 January 2019, 08:00:53 PM »
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But that is the only thing we have left with to threaten the EU with.

Which loosely translates into - give us what we want or we'll jump 
Yeah that'll work 
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Nah I see it more like this ---
Here's how you successfully jump  :eek

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