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Re: Swing arm Movement?
« Reply #50 on: 05 August 2020, 12:11:45 pm »
You need to put a micrometer on the pin and measure it in several places, as they wear with flat spots and eccentrically.  The darken area is wear (lack of grease) often the needles wear more then the pin, looking at the movement and the pin I'd say the bearing is shot.  Quick way and only as a guide is clean out the bearing with brake cleaner, once all the old grease is out shake the bearing if it rattles it's shot.

Check the seals, if they're hard/brittle replace them or your new bearing will fail in short order.   
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Re: Swing arm Movement?
« Reply #51 on: 05 August 2020, 12:26:55 pm »
  • You need to put a micrometer on the pin and measure it in several places, as they wear with flat spots and eccentrically. 
  • Quick way and only as a guide is clean out the bearing with brake cleaner, once all the old grease is out shake the bearing if it rattles it's shot.
  • Didn't think to think of that, makes sense. But I would think the straight-edge method would also show this..? if you rotated the collar as you checked..?
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Re: Swing arm Movement?
« Reply #52 on: 05 August 2020, 12:33:14 pm »
  • You need to put a micrometer on the pin and measure it in several places, as they wear with flat spots and eccentrically. 
  • Quick way and only as a guide is clean out the bearing with brake cleaner, once all the old grease is out shake the bearing if it rattles it's shot.
  • Didn't think to think of that, makes sense. But I would think the straight-edge method would also show this..? if you rotated the collar as you checked..?
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It would, but to a point, measuring is the correct way.
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Re: Swing arm Movement?
« Reply #53 on: 05 August 2020, 02:04:05 pm »
I'm just on with cleaning the swing arm, which seems harder than taking it off the bike  :lol and noticed some black tape is that there for a reason?
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Re: Swing arm Movement?
« Reply #54 on: 05 August 2020, 06:58:52 pm »
Pull the tape off and have a look, probably covering a bit of surface rust.

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Re: Swing arm Movement?
« Reply #55 on: 05 August 2020, 09:44:04 pm »
Im fairly sure Ive seen the same tape on on one of my FZS1000 swingarms. No idea what its for, I might be covering a small drain hole, so your best just leaving it alone.

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Re: Swing arm Movement?
« Reply #56 on: 06 August 2020, 09:01:36 am »
Is this normal for movement of the bolt through the collar?

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Re: Swing arm Movement?
« Reply #57 on: 06 August 2020, 09:43:44 am »

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Re: Swing arm Movement?
« Reply #58 on: 06 August 2020, 09:58:27 am »
Theres some wear in there
+1,  thats a lot of wear.

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Re: Swing arm Movement?
« Reply #59 on: 06 August 2020, 10:45:43 am »
For anyone that needs this info here is a breakdown of the parts and what Wemoto in-stock -

Dogbone mounts:
  • Collar 90387-126Y1 - wemoto x2 (AA3666)
  • Roller bearing - 93317-21746 - wemoto x0 (AB1057). But Marksman have x21 stock
  • seals - 93109-17071 - wemoto x4 (AA1482) But Marksman have x44 stock
  • bolts - 90185-12119 - bolts x2 Fowlers (Wemoto dont have any matching bolts)
Monoshock mount:
  • Kit -  wemoto x2 (AE4797)
  • bearing - 93317-31771 -
  • coller - 90387-127W0 -
  • seals - 93109-17071 -
  • Bolt - 90101-10659 - x1 fowlers (Wemoto dont have any matching bolts)
Frame mount:
  • collar - 90387-102R4 - wemoto x1 (AD2206)
  • bearing - 93317-31771 - wemoto x35 (AB1227)
  • Bolt - 90105-10376 - x2 fowlers (Wemoto dont have any matching bolts)
Marksman kinkage bearing and seal kit:
  • Atm the kit dosen't have collars, but the sale chaps I spoke to will look to get get the collars and all the bolts added to the kit, making it superior to the wemoto kit - link
And talking of Markman, they do a bunch of bearings for the Gen1 - https://shop.marksman-ind.com/index.asp?function=SEARCH
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Re: Swing arm Movement?
« Reply #60 on: 06 August 2020, 11:34:43 am »
For anyone that needs this info here is a breakdown of the parts and what Wemoto in-stock -

Dogbone mounts:
  • Collar 90387-126Y1 - wemoto x2 (AA3666)
  • Roller bearing - 93317-21746 - wemoto x0 (AB1057). But Marksman have x21 stock
  • seals - 93109-17071 - wemoto x4 (AA1482) But Marksman have x44 stock
  • bolts - 90185-12119 - bolts x2 Fowlers (Wemoto dont have any matching bolts)
Monoshock mount:
  • Kit -  wemoto x2 (AE4797)
  • bearing - 93317-31771 -
  • coller - 90387-127W0 -
  • seals - 93109-17071 -
  • Bolt - 90101-10659 - x1 fowlers (Wemoto dont have any matching bolts)
Frame mount:
  • collar - 90387-102R4 - wemoto x1 (AD2206)
  • bearing - 93317-31771 - wemoto x35 (AB1227)
  • Bolt - 90105-10376 - x2 fowlers (Wemoto dont have any matching bolts)
Markman kinkage bearing and seal kit:
  • Atm the kit dosen't have collars, but the sale chaps I spoke to will look to get get the collars and all the bolts added to the kit, making it superior to the wemoto kit - link
And talking of Markman, they do a bunch of bearings for the Gen1 - https://shop.marksman-ind.com/index.asp?function=SEARCH
Thanks for these, I've ordered a collar and bolt flange

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Re: Swing arm Movement?
« Reply #61 on: 06 August 2020, 05:07:22 pm »
Hi,
I should be putting the swing arm back on tomorrow, just wondering what torque the bolts should be , someone mentioned 115Nm for the pivot shaft? what about the others on the suspension linkage?