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Re: Bikes died
« Reply #50 on: 30 June 2020, 03:59:44 pm »
That's about what you get and what I've seen plus no noise, or hardly any.  The magnets just get pulled in as the bonding fails, so long as they're pulled squarely down on to the coil assembly, the rotor assembly just spins around and produces no charge or very little, the fun starts if one does  :eek

You've had a result mate, in that it's not done any real damaged other than the generator.   ;) :)
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Re: Bikes died 😧☹
« Reply #51 on: 30 June 2020, 04:20:53 pm »
Yeah i feel like the luckiest guy in the world 😂😂
Nah I know what ya mean, its the best of a bad outcome although not a welcome expense given the current situation 🙄
Least once it's done I won't have to worry about it again for the life of the bike

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Re: Bikes died 😧☹
« Reply #52 on: 30 June 2020, 05:22:40 pm »
Well done Dude, glad you’ve got a result, even if rather painful on your wallet. But hey, things could have been a lot worse. Just enjoy the peace of mind when your bike’s back together, and you’re out giving her some stick. :thumbup
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Re: Bikes died 😧☹
« Reply #53 on: 30 June 2020, 06:16:37 pm »
So glad I did mine as a preventative measure last month, looks like you are a lucky man today  :thumbup

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Re: Bikes died
« Reply #54 on: 30 June 2020, 06:16:42 pm »
Least once it's done I won't have to worry about it again for the life of the bike


Yep, ;) :D  I'd give Yamaha a call, state the fact it's well known almost common fault and that they've made an up graded part.  They may just fobb you off but they may not or at the least they may contribute, I've had similar results before.  You've got nothing to lose by trying mate  ;)
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Re: Bikes died 😧☹
« Reply #55 on: 30 June 2020, 06:20:14 pm »
Haha funnily enough I was gonna ask of anyone had any luck getting anything in the ways of compensation out of Yamaha? I would imagine I'd be pissing in the wind but might be worth an email 🤔

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Re: Bikes died 😧☹
« Reply #56 on: 30 June 2020, 06:36:40 pm »
Haha funnily enough I was gonna ask of anyone had any luck getting anything in the ways of compensation out of Yamaha? I would imagine I'd be pissing in the wind but might be worth an email 🤔


Send the pictures and stress the fact they've up rated that part because of failures, why no recall etc etc.   
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Re: Bikes died 😧☹
« Reply #57 on: 30 June 2020, 07:31:29 pm »
 FFS!  That was a close call.  Hopefully you are not missing any significant bits.
Good to hear you are on your way to getting it sorted.
What years were affected with this?
 

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Re: Bikes died 😧☹
« Reply #58 on: 30 June 2020, 07:43:58 pm »
FFS!  That was a close call.  Hopefully you are not missing any significant bits.
Good to hear you are on your way to getting it sorted.
What years were affected with this?

Well with the Fz1 I believe it affects the 06,07 and 08 but also affects the R1 from 04 and the FZ8 from 10 (i believe) possibly even a few more that shared this engine

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Re: Bikes died 😧☹
« Reply #59 on: 30 June 2020, 07:46:15 pm »
Good to know.
Hope yours is up and running again soon Dude.

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Re: Bikes died 😧☹
« Reply #60 on: 30 June 2020, 08:07:16 pm »
Good to know.
Hope yours is up and running again soon Dude.

Hopefully by the weekend as long as the postman doesn't dawdle (like he has been with the gasket I ordered on Friday with 24hr delivery no less 🙄)

On that note I couldn't believe that the company I ordered the parts from charged me £6 shipping! Spent £350 with them and they don't even offer to send it for free!? Shocking in this day and age

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Re: Bikes died 😧☹
« Reply #61 on: 30 June 2020, 08:43:16 pm »
I find a lot of 24hr services are no quicker than the budget option.
I figure often the tick box is just there in case you fancy paying extra.

And don't start me on the post office.  They just love to try and sell you their rip off insurance.

You know if their insurance rates were reasonable I'd take it out everytime, but it's just a pure rip off, and then their staff are trained to write 'customer advised' on your receipt to further pressurise you into taking their insurance.

Now I'll tell them what I'm sending (I suppose it's fair to ask to check that what you are sending is safe) but I refuse to discuss value.  Just give me recorded delivery please. 

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Re: Bikes died 😧☹
« Reply #62 on: 01 July 2020, 02:49:12 pm »
I got my gasket here, the packet it came in had a genuine Yamaha sticker on it but it did cost me £16 with postage.


http://www.manhattanmotorcycles.co.uk/p/28871/2d11545110-gasket-crankcase-cover-1


Cheers for the link 👍



From memory, our rectifiers are known to bloody melt are they not? I would check that for sure....

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Re: Bikes died 😧☹
« Reply #63 on: 02 July 2020, 06:02:49 pm »
Well for anyone that needs to know. This is what an upgraded rotor looks like 👍

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Re: Bikes died 😧☹
« Reply #64 on: 02 July 2020, 06:08:27 pm »
Also for anyone thats thinking thinking about it, replacing the stator is an absolute arse of a job 😔 just started it but going to have to finish it tomorrow. For a start the the 3 bolts holding it into the engine case have been put in with factory loctite and as such do not like to be undone (so that was a 15 minute job trying to get them out) and then after finally getting them undone I realised its going to be a complete tank off job to get access too the old cable/plug and be able to reroute the new one 🙄
Then as another annoyance, the old gasket is a ball ache to get off too. I spend 20 minutes with a Stanley blade trying to get it all off.
All in all a lot of effort for something I may have not needed to do (I cleaned up the magnets on the old one and turns out they aren't damaged 🤷‍♂️)
But as with all this kind of stuff if your going to go to the effort of doing it, you may aswell do it all properly to save having to do it again
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Re: Bikes died 😧☹
« Reply #65 on: 02 July 2020, 07:51:08 pm »
nice tats.

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Re: Bikes died 😧☹
« Reply #66 on: 02 July 2020, 08:11:24 pm »
nice tats.

Bet you say that to all the girls 😂

But what you on about? None of my tattoos are on show? Haha

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Re: Bikes died 😧☹
« Reply #67 on: 02 July 2020, 09:03:41 pm »
I found it fairly easy but I didn't have to change the generator only the rotor. I agree about the gasket it must have took me about half an hr to get that off as it was a right pain...


The bolts holding mine on were easy to undo and I didn't put any threadlock on when I refitted either  :eek

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Re: Bikes died 😧☹
« Reply #68 on: 02 July 2020, 09:06:46 pm »
I found it fairly easy but I didn't have to change the generator only the rotor. I agree about the gasket it must have took me about half an hr to get that off as it was a right pain...


The bolts holding mine on were easy to undo and I didn't put any threadlock on when I refitted either  :eek

I was referring to the bolts holding the generator in. The rotor was a simple in and out job. Its the generator thats proving to be a bastard to replace haha

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Re: Bikes died 😧☹
« Reply #69 on: 03 July 2020, 02:45:16 pm »
Well we have success 🥳🥳

Took an hour of faffing about with the stator but got there in the end.
A point worth mentioning for anyone who orders a stator from that company (RMStators)... the lead is about 2 inches smaller than the original and as such you have to be really inventive with the routing otherwise you won't be able to screw your rectifier back in the same place. Also the plug is maybe 1cm shallower so it doesn't look like it's clipped in, but does work 👍

Anyways just an oil change to go then ill be back on the road
Thanks again for all the help guys. Just shows once you take away then politics then this is still a great Motorbike forum after all 😜👍

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Re: Bikes died 😧☹
« Reply #70 on: 03 July 2020, 02:48:16 pm »
Result  :thumbup
Pleased for you mate.
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« Reply #71 on: 03 July 2020, 02:50:50 pm »
Glad you got it sorted mate  :)
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« Reply #72 on: 03 July 2020, 04:29:11 pm »
Well done on getting it fixed  :thumbup , pretty epic journey from start to finish, thanks for sharing.

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« Reply #73 on: 03 July 2020, 05:51:29 pm »
absolute result and nicely done dude :) :) :) :)
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Re: Bikes died 😧☹
« Reply #74 on: 03 July 2020, 06:14:07 pm »
Glad it's sorted mate  :thumbup