Author Topic: headlight upgrade (Read 28820 times)

mike26 · « **on:** 07 October 2011, 07:27:37 am »

best cheapest headlight upgrade???

Tefer · « **Reply #1 on:** 07 October 2011, 08:12:18 am »

Upgraded Bulbs, wire both Lights on?

Tefer · « **Reply #2 on:** 07 October 2011, 08:42:53 am »

http://foc-u.co.uk/smf/index.php/topic,181.0.html

Major Rant · « **Reply #3 on:** 07 October 2011, 02:53:57 pm »

The "x percent brighter" bulbs from Philips or Osram are quite good. I put a pair in the car and they are noticably brighter, chap next door with identical car even said.

"Have you got HIDs in this"

Downside is that they only last 300 hours (as against 1000 hours for a standard H1) and if you buy the very bright ones they will degrade your headlamp plastic cover (but my standard H1 did that anyway!) . Apparently they emit more ultra-violet than ordinary ones.
Having said that, headlight plastic in the year 2000 wasn't very good - just look at any W reg Ford Focus.

Buy branded ones ... there are a lot of well marketed chinese copies out there which are simply ordinary H1s/H4s painted blue.

On my 2000 FZS I did a complex re-wire with relay so that both lights are proper main-beams, but you don't want to go there .

jrisch · « **Reply #4 on:** 07 October 2011, 05:09:07 pm »

I've got a 2002 "foxeye" with both lights taking the H4 60/55W bulbs. Cans I use any H4 bulbs, particularly the "up to 90% brighter" bulbs, or are there some to avoid?

Major Rant · « **Reply #5 on:** 07 October 2011, 08:57:59 pm »

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Cans I use any H4 bulbs, particularly the "up to 90% brighter" bulbs, or are there some to avoid?

In a word ... Yes!

But you take your own risk , you should be aware that most of what's written about them is either "Marketing Speak" or "Paid Placements" from vested interests
(ie its mostly Bollox!). The truth is that they are simply H4s with better material control and a slightly more 'inert' gas filling that allows them to be driven harder.

I used "Osram Nightbreaker" H1s in the car and so far they are fine (2 years old).
They claim "All Osram Night Breaker bulbs are UV Protected and so are suitable for use on vehicles with plastic headlight lenses" .
They also claim that their new ones "Nightbreaker plus" have 50% more lifetime than the originals.

There are Philips equivalents but I would avoid other makes unless you can see evidence that they work as well.

jrisch · « **Reply #6 on:** 07 October 2011, 10:31:01 pm »

Thanks, I'll stick to Phillips or Osram.

Cheers, J

topgun44 · « **Reply #7 on:** 07 October 2011, 10:49:02 pm »

go for hid kit spot on
from this

to this

Oxygen · « **Reply #8 on:** 08 October 2011, 03:43:28 am »

Flee bay had HID kit for about £50

Oxygen · « **Reply #9 on:** 08 October 2011, 03:49:07 am »

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/XENON-HID-Headlamp-Conversion-new-Yamaha-Fazer-600-/380294129095

I wired both lights for main beam and that seems ok and was simple

topgun44 · « **Reply #10 on:** 08 October 2011, 01:13:35 pm »

Quote from: Oxygen on 08 October 2011, 03:43:28 am

Flee bay had HID kit for about £50

got mine for 30 pound car kit so got spare if thing go wrong h1 kit for low beam and h4-2 kit high and low for the high beam

have them just over year and still fine

Slaninar · « **Reply #11 on:** 08 October 2011, 06:08:37 pm »

Quote from: Oxygen on 08 October 2011, 03:49:07 am

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/XENON-HID-Headlamp-Conversion-new-Yamaha-Fazer-600-/380294129095

I wired both lights for main beam and that seems ok and was simple

How do you fit that HID H1 bulb?!
Got it, put the "balast", but can't figure a way to put the bulb and hohd it in place. Should I glue it or something?

Kenny Dave · « **Reply #12 on:** 08 October 2011, 07:23:10 pm »

Has anyone had a go with LEDs?

Gingernutz · « **Reply #13 on:** 08 October 2011, 07:52:01 pm »

Slaninar - the H1 bulb holder should hold it in but mine didn't either. In the end I used a pared down split wooden clothes peg to brace the holder between the clip and the holder.

Andy · « **Reply #14 on:** 08 October 2011, 08:15:24 pm »

My Fazer already had both headlights wired when I bought her so they're both on and it does look 100% better.
I bought some so called "uprated bulbs" and they were just dipped in some blue dye stuff? That's e.bay for you.

Oxygen · « **Reply #15 on:** 08 October 2011, 09:07:17 pm »

Quote from: Slaninar on 08 October 2011, 06:08:37 pm

Quote from: Oxygen on 08 October 2011, 03:49:07 am
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/XENON-HID-Headlamp-Conversion-new-Yamaha-Fazer-600-/380294129095

I wired both lights for main beam and that seems ok and was simple

How do you fit that HID H1 bulb?!
Got it, put the "balast", but can't figure a way to put the bulb and hohd it in place. Should I glue it or something?

I have not done HID just wired both in. Sorry for confussion

Slaninar · « **Reply #16 on:** 09 October 2011, 03:57:38 pm »

H7 HID is the answer. It has a plastic "collar" that can be easily cut to fit just right in the Fazer's H1 original spot. The metal clip holds it in place. Will see about the brightness tonight, but even in daylight it looks a lot brighter than the H4 on hi beam. Should be nice.

So anyone looking for easy fit HID for FZS - go for H7 in place of H1 bulb - it works. Or hold on for a few more months to see how mine holds.

topgun44 · « **Reply #17 on:** 09 October 2011, 06:13:27 pm »

Quote from: Slaninar on 09 October 2011, 03:57:38 pm

H7 HID is the answer. It has a plastic "collar" that can be easily cut to fit just right in the Fazer's H1 original spot. The metal clip holds it in place. Will see about the brightness tonight, but even in daylight it looks a lot brighter than the H4 on hi beam. Should be nice.

So anyone looking for easy fit HID for FZS - go for H7 in place of H1 bulb - it works. Or hold on for a few more months to see how mine holds.

done my with hid h1 kit hold it with 2 wall plugs

one of both side and push the clip around it and it solid as a rock it been like that for half year know and still is fine

Slaninar · « **Reply #18 on:** 09 October 2011, 08:21:53 pm »

Quote from: Kenny Dave on 08 October 2011, 07:23:10 pm

Has anyone had a go with LEDs?

LEDs are good if lights have good optics (made for LED). Otherwise - not good. I have LEDs on rear and brake lights, but everything else is just not good. Tried it all - less visible and less light for me to see.

Major Rant · « **Reply #19 on:** 09 October 2011, 10:43:03 pm »

He did say "cheapest, best" ... so I guess a HID kit is the one.

If he'd said "cheapest, easiest" it would be upgraded bulbs.

Anyhow, I'm pissed off with being blinded at night so I've ordered one of these for 22 of your Earth currency units..

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/6000K-HID-H4-3-Ballast-Motorcycle-Yamaha-PW-TW-C164-/170664547078?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27bc665306

I'll let you know how I get on.

Oxygen · « **Reply #20 on:** 14 October 2011, 09:06:33 pm »

Quote from: Major Rant on 09 October 2011, 10:43:03 pm

He did say "cheapest, best" ... so I guess a HID kit is the one.

If he'd said "cheapest, easiest" it would be upgraded bulbs.

Anyhow, I'm pissed off with being blinded at night so I've ordered one of these for 22 of your Earth currency units..

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/6000K-HID-H4-3-Ballast-Motorcycle-Yamaha-PW-TW-C164-/170664547078?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27bc665306

I'll let you know how I get on.

With photos if possible and if it works well a photo install guide. I know I am not after much

Andy · « **Reply #21 on:** 16 October 2011, 04:04:51 pm »

Instead of LED upgrade I've put an LED running light under the headlights and it looks great.

topgun44 · « **Reply #22 on:** 16 October 2011, 05:45:54 pm »

Quote from: Andy on 16 October 2011, 04:04:51 pm

Instead of LED upgrade I've put an LED running light under the headlights and it looks great.

a pic would be nice

Andy · « **Reply #23 on:** 18 October 2011, 09:39:03 pm »

sorry brother been busy but will do tomorrow

Dead Eye · « **Reply #24 on:** 19 October 2011, 04:41:38 pm »

Just spent most of the day trying to do the headlight upgrade and after routing cables, soldering and generally making a fool of myself I've somehow managed to get it working ish - the offside lamp now comes on for dipped beam but the nearside one won't turn in at all. Someone help, it makes no sense and I'm sure the bulb still works

Edit: Ok turns out I was possibly being crazy, its all working now (properly) thank god