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General / Re: Best Bike to insure
« on: 15 February 2012, 01:55:06 pm »
Look to a GPz500S, some of them might even have moved into the cheapo classic bracket by now. They are all cheap to buy, bombproof, economical, fast enough and female friendly, (low seat,  lowish c od g etc) Nice bike.
I had one, traded it in for the Fazer after 3 years mainly because of the mid-range buzz that gave my gentleman's parts pins and needles.
Definitely "female-friendly"... it's a 60bhp vibrator. :lol
Still group 8 insurance though, so may not help in this instance.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Is my battery on it's way out.....
« on: 15 February 2012, 10:24:43 am »
Your battery/alternator tester is a simplified voltmeter and, from those results, I don't think you need to worry about replacing the battery.


You sure on that one Fazerider? The tests mobile mouse has done, were all with engine running, so surely all we've achieved (although a worthy thing to prove) is that the charging systems are all working?

I'm not saying the battery IS knackered, just that we don't know either way; and there are other things that need doing first, notably the bar swicthgear, and then the other checks you've detailed above.

My experience with my bike though, makes me think the battery probably has had its day. (I know, I said I wasn't saying the battery was knackered :lol )
Fair point, MM still needs to check the battery retains charge OK. But it is only 4 years old: I wouldn't expect it to be dying yet, particularly when he's found other reasons for his electrical problems.
Perhaps I'm biased because mine is still going strong despite this being its 14th winter. :)

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General / Re: Photography competition - February
« on: 15 February 2012, 10:10:58 am »
A church is "The house of God".
So we can photograph anything if we claim an imaginary friend lives there?

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General / Re: Best Bike to insure
« on: 15 February 2012, 10:09:09 am »
Honda CBF250? It's group 6 rather than the SV650's group 9.
If that's too pricey then there isn't much choice beyond another 125. Tell her to stick with tiddlers until she's 21 when the insurance should take a steep drop... combined with another 3 years NCB that should get things more affordable.
Either that or find a more generous step-dad. :D




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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Is my battery on it's way out.....
« on: 15 February 2012, 09:55:27 am »
Your battery/alternator tester is a simplified voltmeter and, from those results, I don't think you need to worry about replacing the battery.
However, the whole of the wiring sounds as if it needs a thorough going over.
Disconnect the battery before you start. Then once you've sorted out the handlebar switchgear, lift the tank and open the connector housing. Unplug each of the connectors in turn. Check for signs of overheating, clean, retighten any spades that feel loose and finally spray with WD40 to keep corrosion at bay.
Check connections to the starter relay etc. are tight and don't forget the earthy side that goes to the frame and engine. Finally reconnect the battery and grease the terminals with battery grease/Vaseline.
That should chase the electrical gremlins away.
At least Yamaha use decent quality wiring, both the Kawasakis I previously owned suffered from porous insulation and I had to replace entire lengths of cable because the copper had turned to green paste inside them.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Is my battery on it's way out.....
« on: 14 February 2012, 07:56:16 pm »

I agree with richfzs, dismantling and reassembling the right hand switch unit is a fiddly job... but in this case I think it would be worth doing. With the switchgear making intermittent contact there will be arc damage to the surfaces that is best cleaned up with a fine file or emery paper and the moving parts could do with grease as a lubricant, WD40 really isn't up to either task.
Looking on the bright side, at least without the starter motor operating at random it should make life easier for the battery!

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Is my battery on it's way out.....
« on: 14 February 2012, 12:36:41 pm »
The only other relay in the system is the starter relay and that doesn't activate until you hit the button so you wouldn't normally hear it as the click is drowned out by the sound of the engine turning over.

Point being, with the starter relay is that when the battery is low, it reaches a stage where it doesn't hold the relay open properly, so you hear (loud and clear), the relay cycling, as described by Mr Mouse just over half way down his post.
I guess you mean "closed" rather than "open".

And only if you're pressing the starter button at the time. Since Mobile Mouse mentioned, near the top of his post, that he had previously heard this chatter while the bike was running and he was putting his gloves on, it seemed unlikely that the starter relay is involved. Even if an intermittent short was causing the starter relay to be activated, I'd expect the whirr of the motor to be more audible than the relay clicking.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Is my battery on it's way out.....
« on: 14 February 2012, 09:42:56 am »
Year-round riding should be good for the battery provided the charging circuit is functioning. Even leaving the headlights on for 15 minutes shouldn't have killed it, that only equates to about 3AH worth of charge... not good practice, but as a once-off followed by a night on the charger shouldn't have done it much harm.
Is your Optimate one that reports on battery condition?
Otherwise, get a multimeter and see what the battery voltage is after being stood overnight (without the charger or any current drain from alarms etc.), if it's over 12.8V, it should be fine.
Not sure what the noises you're hearing are, the only clicking sounds mine makes before starting come from the fuel pump and that should cut off once the float chambers on the carbs are full. The only other relay in the system is the starter relay and that doesn't activate until you hit the button so you wouldn't normally hear it as the click is drowned out by the sound of the engine turning over.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: throttle shut off
« on: 14 February 2012, 09:12:38 am »
I had a similar problem recently. After lifting the tank I discovered the nut securing the throttle return cable on the carb bank had become loose and the cable outer had unseated itself, so maybe the same thing's happened to yours.
And, as Bracechenko says, check the cables are lubricated.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: brake disc
« on: 11 February 2012, 01:26:14 am »
I did consider the Zone discs a couple of months ago, but opted for EBC in the end (also UK manufactured).
Can't say what they're like at extremes of braking since roads have been cold and wet every time I've been out since getting them bedded in.
I like the look of the gold alloy centres and they're quite a bit lighter than the worn Yamaha discs they replaced, but despite claims of being made from stainless steel the rotors grow a layer of rust pretty quickly after rain. So if you park your bike outside I'd recommend something else.

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FZ6 / Fazer / Re: rear disc
« on: 07 February 2012, 07:23:56 pm »
If there's still enough of the head left to get some torque with a fresh allen key, try heating the wheel up. I did this by propping it on bricks 10" above a low flame on the gas hob for 20 minutes or so. I insulated the seal for the wheel bearing with by taping over with a few layers of newspaper to prevent damage to the rubber. You just need to get it hot enough to be uncomfortable to touch say 50 to 60ºC, any loctite type material will soften and the alloy will expand more than the steel of the bolt making it a looser fit.

Other options are: weld a length of steel to the remains of each head, though this could risk damage to the alloy as localised heating might be too extreme... or simply drill the heads off, lift the old disc off and hope that once the tension is off the bolt the remains will respond to a good soaking in WD40 (or whatever your preferred penetrating oil may be) and the bodger's favourite tool: the mole grip.


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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Simple light conversion and MOT
« on: 07 February 2012, 09:06:16 am »
The right hand bulb is an H4 so the dipped beam from it has a well controlled light pattern that, provided the beam is adjusted sensibly, will not cause an MOT failure. Aside from the wiring mod I found it helpful to trim the right-hand side of the locating tabs on the bulb so it can be rotated a little further clockwise, making it less "continental".

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: replacing carbs
« on: 05 February 2012, 12:04:07 pm »
There are quite a few things to move out of the way, but it's a fairly straightforward job.
From memory:

Tank off, battery out, loosen the carb inlet clamps, undo the bolts that hold the airbox and slide that backwards.
Undo the bolts holding the bar that supports the coils and fuel pump, sliding that back gives sufficient access to undo the throttle cables and get the coolant hoses off the carbs.
Wriggling the old carbs out of the inlet rubbers is a bit fiddly, and persuading the new ones back in always seems much harder... a bit of grease around the outlets of the new carbs helps a lot.
It takes me about 4 hours to do it, but I work slowly... someone who does it for a job would probably only need half that.

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General / Re: Anyone need a new washing Machine?
« on: 04 February 2012, 09:59:02 pm »
Nope.
... but it did remind me I need some silicone mastic to seal my draughty window frames. :lol

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: running problems
« on: 01 February 2012, 10:58:31 am »
If the fuel pump ticks for a few seconds and then stops when you switch the ignition on you can probably eliminate that as the cause of the problem, it means it's pumping fuel OK and the back pressure halts the pump once the carb float valves are closed.
If it runs fine to start with and then gets breathless and dies within a few miles, chances are the carbs are icing. Check the water path through the carbs. With the tank off you should be able to unplug the two thin hoses. If you attach a bit of spare hose you should be able to blow through the whole set... if you can't you'll probably have to take them off the bike to determine where the blockage is and clear it.

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FZ6 / Fazer / Re: valve clearences
« on: 31 January 2012, 12:47:04 pm »
Unless you've reason to suspect they're out of spec I wouldn't say it's an urgent job.
I check mine every 40,000 miles (OK, different engine I know) and they've never changed. I'd expect the FZ6 motor to be much the same.

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Ah well, someone's going to get a bargain if you're only asking £400 for it.
Mine's a fair bit scruffier and I still enjoy riding it... I regard the mangled fairing and corroded fork bottoms as character. :lol




2043
It honestly doesn't look that bad to me.
Fork dust seals are cheap and easy to fit. What do you think would cause an MOT failure?
I'd certainly be happier riding around on a slightly tatty Fazer than a scooter. :)

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: why?
« on: 30 January 2012, 03:28:06 pm »
A HOME MADE LOBOTOMY KIT?
Dunno about that... looks like it'd do a nifty job of puncturing the pilot's kidneys in the event of a shunt though. :lol

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: why?
« on: 30 January 2012, 01:34:32 pm »
Armrests for a very slender pillion? :rollin

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: LED Rear light
« on: 30 January 2012, 01:26:28 pm »
Not something I've done myself, but the 12V dual circuit LEDs are a direct replacement for the 5/21W filament lamps. No relays required.

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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Headlight delay
« on: 29 January 2012, 01:34:24 pm »
Turning the headlights on after you've started the engine would seem the obvious solution.. or am I missing something?

I assume 'dudes bandit is one of the newer bikes with no headlight switch (as in, the headlights are hard wired on).
I hadn't realised the safety nazis had made that much progress.
It's a harsh way to treat the little batteries bikes have, think I'd add a bar-mounted switch if that's the case.

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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Headlight delay
« on: 29 January 2012, 11:10:59 am »
Turning the headlights on after you've started the engine would seem the obvious solution.. or am I missing something?

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: New rider concerned by sprocket nut problems!
« on: 26 January 2012, 01:04:08 am »
It just seemed a bit unlikely that there would be two reasons for the one problem, though I agree it's surprising Yamaha were prepared to replace not only the nut but the shaft, particularly after denying there was an issue for a couple of years after it came to light.
There are probably plenty of low mileage Fazers out there still with the original nut, looking back through my records I see I'd changed the chain and sprockets twice and covered 56,000 miles before mine was affected. And my local dealer still looks up the details on his microfiche and would order the old skinny nut if I didn't tell him the correct part number each time.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: New rider concerned by sprocket nut problems!
« on: 25 January 2012, 12:01:51 pm »
@ Limax2
Is that right? My understanding was that the measurement of the shaft diameter was to determine whether it was still useable after loose nuts/sprockets had battered the thread, not that there was a problem with some of them being manufactured undersized.

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