Post by: fazersharp on 29 March 2020, 03:26:21 pm
- what is peoples opinion on hel stainless steel bleed nipples and what size do I need.
- Will 500ml of fluid be enough to do the job - even if I have to struggle with bleeding.
- What fluid to get - any make better than other.
- Pads SBS ceramic I see have been mentioned. I don't want anything too sharp on the rear
- seals webmoto Ebay or fowlers.I read it can be hit and miss with pattern ones but is that still the case.
Post by: Gnasher on 29 March 2020, 05:30:56 pm
I have a few questions.I will be using a hel line and on the website it mentions black stealth heat shrink on the ends as an option. I actually think it looks a bit messy and my new line will be clear stainless steel but on the rear is there any reason to have the "stealth heat shrink.
No it's purely cosmetic.
A reminder for those that do not know. I have had the bike for 19 years 23k on clock and the last 19k of them have been dry ones only. Bike garaged. The rear calaper was last serviced at 8k in 2002 pads fluid and seals ( so the receipt says )
- what is peoples opinion on hel stainless steel bleed nipples and what size do I need.
- Will 500ml of fluid be enough to do the job - even if I have to struggle with bleeding.
- What fluid to get - any make better than other.
- Pads SBS ceramic I see have been mentioned. I don't want anything too sharp on the rear
- seals webmoto Ebay or fowlers.I read it can be hit and miss with pattern ones but is that still the case.
Not really needed it's up to you 7mm x 1mm pitch.
You can do the job with 250ml if you don't waste it.
DOT 4 you don't need anything else.
SBS HF ceramic is what you need, they are OE equivalent.
Go for Flowers, for the rear seals, you can buy a kit which includes the pistons & seals, or you can but each separate. All depends how bad the pistons are. If you're going to split the caliper body you will need a body seal, you can't get this from Yamaha, Suzuki's GS500 one fits perfectly.
Post by: vinnyb on 29 March 2020, 06:38:29 pm
Post by: fazersharp on 29 March 2020, 07:36:12 pm
Not really needed it's up to you 7mm x 1mm pitch.
You can do the job with 250ml if you don't waste it.
DOT 4 you don't need anything else.
SBS HF ceramic is what you need, they are OE equivalent.
Go for Flowers, for the rear seals, you can buy a kit which includes the pistons & seals, or you can but each separate. All depends how bad the pistons are. If you're going to split the caliper body you will need a body seal, you can't get this from Yamaha, Suzuki's GS500 one fits perfectly.
- Nipples - Im thinking if I knacker the old ones somehow. When I did the front years ago I could not get the threads to stop weeping so I think I brought some new ones in the end.
- Hmmm - I will waste it so 500ml sounds ok
- The pads you suggest sound perfect.
- Rear seals number 5 here https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/4158523/fzs600-fazer-5dm1-1998-070-a/rear-disc-and-caliper (https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/4158523/fzs600-fazer-5dm1-1998-070-a/rear-disc-and-caliper) £29
And a basic question do I pop the pistons out then take the seals out and clean in and around their seats, replace with new then push the cleaned and inspected pistons back in. I will be taking the caliper off and doing it on a bench.Do I need to do anything with the master cylinder.
Post by: fazersharp on 29 March 2020, 07:41:34 pm
Post by: darrsi on 29 March 2020, 08:25:14 pm
Any recommendations as to where to get the pads.
Don't worry about the year, they'll fit.
http://www.bits4motorbikes.co.uk/brakes/MotorBikeBrakePadsAndShoes.html?MotorbikeID=6368 (http://www.bits4motorbikes.co.uk/brakes/MotorBikeBrakePadsAndShoes.html?MotorbikeID=6368)
Post by: Gnasher on 29 March 2020, 08:49:17 pm
I am hoping the pistons are ok. Why would I need to be splitting the body ?
- Nipples - Im thinking if I knacker the old ones somehow. When I did the front years ago I could not get the threads to stop weeping so I think I brought some new ones in the end.
- Hmmm - I will waste it so 500ml sounds ok
- The pads you suggest sound perfect.
- Rear seals number 5 here https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/4158523/fzs600-fazer-5dm1-1998-070-a/rear-disc-and-caliper (https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/4158523/fzs600-fazer-5dm1-1998-070-a/rear-disc-and-caliper) £29
And a basic question do I pop the pistons out then take the seals out and clean in and around their seats, replace with new then push the cleaned and inspected pistons back in. I will be taking the caliper off and doing it on a bench.Do I need to do anything with the master cylinder.
Yes, if you think you'll shear them, but you don't need stainless. In most case the weep because people over tighten them and bugger the seat in the caliper buying new nipples will have little effect.
The rear pistons don't fair well and in most cases need replacing, only by inspection can you tell, but if you've not got them and yours are shot you've got to wait and reorder, that costs more. Your choice.
All depends how you get the pistons out, these rears can be a real pain to remove even with hydraulic pressure. Often the only way is to split the caliper and twist them out, that can't be done with the caliper whole but you run the risk of damaging the pistons, if damaged enough the can't be reused. If you split it and you've not got the seal, you run the risk of it leaking should you reuse it, it will leak.
Post by: fazersharp on 29 March 2020, 09:01:20 pm
Just to confirm that I pop them out without splitting the caliper
Post by: fazersharp on 29 March 2020, 09:05:17 pm
Any recommendations as to where to get the pads.thanks for the link. These ones then SBS STREET 570HF Ceramic
Don't worry about the year, they'll fit.
[url]http://www.bits4motorbikes.co.uk/brakes/MotorBikeBrakePadsAndShoes.html?MotorbikeID=6368[/url] ([url]http://www.bits4motorbikes.co.uk/brakes/MotorBikeBrakePadsAndShoes.html?MotorbikeID=6368[/url])
Post by: darrsi on 29 March 2020, 10:27:07 pm
Any recommendations as to where to get the pads.thanks for the link. These ones then SBS STREET 570HF Ceramic
Don't worry about the year, they'll fit.
[url]http://www.bits4motorbikes.co.uk/brakes/MotorBikeBrakePadsAndShoes.html?MotorbikeID=6368[/url] ([url]http://www.bits4motorbikes.co.uk/brakes/MotorBikeBrakePadsAndShoes.html?MotorbikeID=6368[/url])
https://www.sbs.dk/products-1/brake-pads/570hf (https://www.sbs.dk/products-1/brake-pads/570hf)
Post by: Fazerider on 30 March 2020, 12:18:47 am
If you’ve avoided wet and salty roads it’s a fair bet that the pistons will be fine. I've never needed to split calipers... i see which piston moves easier then use a small G-clamp to hold it in while using the pedal to pump the difficult one out. Then piston pliers to wriggle the other out.
If the seals on the master cylinder haven’t been replaced recently I’d change ‘em. Yamaha say to do so every 4 years for all the hydraulics’ rubber components, though that is a bit over-cautious.
You can avoid problems with bleed nipples by greasing the threads when you put them in. And a squirt of WD40 down the hole after bleeding blows out that nasty hygroscopic brake fluid... just keep your face out of the firing line when you do. :)
Post by: Gnasher on 30 March 2020, 09:06:35 am
Thanks Gnasher, before you posted I was looking at the price difference and it's only 26 quid exta for the kit with with pistons. So I can be as rough as I need to be in getting the old ones out.
:thumbup
Just to confirm that I pop them out without splitting the caliper
If you've not got piston pliers, be sure to leave enough of the second piston proud of the caliper body that you can grip it. These pistons are quite long and you need to push which ever one you're not taking out back into the body, just make sure you do as above or you'll have to get hold of piston pliers to remove it.
Push them both out with a single pad between them, get them a equal as possible, now clean the pistons ensure you get to the undersides, grease them and push them back. This will help free them, it will also give you an indication if they're seized, from there you can decide to split or not.
As mentioned these are often a real pain to remove and they can lock themselves in, I've had many an owner turn up with a caliper body with chewed up seized pistons. :wall
If your's have been well maintained your should be ok, good luck.
Post by: fazersharp on 30 March 2020, 11:51:54 am
Good tips thanks. Think I will invest in a pair of piston pliers. No rain or salt in 19 years ;) . Which seals is it in the master cylinder I cant tell in the fowlers exploded diagram.
If you’ve avoided wet and salty roads it’s a fair bet that the pistons will be fine. I've never needed to split calipers... i see which piston moves easier then use a small G-clamp to hold it in while using the pedal to pump the difficult one out. Then piston pliers to wriggle the other out.
If the seals on the master cylinder haven’t been replaced recently I’d change ‘em. Yamaha say to do so every 4 years for all the hydraulics’ rubber components, though that is a bit over-cautious.
You can avoid problems with bleed nipples by greasing the threads when you put them in. And a squirt of WD40 down the hole after bleeding blows out that nasty hygroscopic brake fluid... just keep your face out of the firing line when you do. :)
Post by: fazersharp on 30 March 2020, 12:00:50 pm
If you've not got piston pliers, be sure to leave enough of the second piston proud of the caliper body that you can grip it. These pistons are quite long and you need to push which ever one you're not taking out back into the body, just make sure you do as above or you'll have to get hold of piston pliers to remove it.Thanks for your help.
Push them both out with a single pad between them, get them a equal as possible, now clean the pistons ensure you get to the undersides, grease them and push them back. This will help free them, it will also give you an indication if they're seized, from there you can decide to split or not.
As mentioned these are often a real pain to remove and they can lock themselves in, I've had many an owner turn up with a caliper body with chewed up seized pistons. :wall
If your's have been well maintained your should be ok, good luck.
Will be getting some piston pliers. I wouldn't say the rear caliper has been "well looked after" other than keeping is clean but doesn't really get dirty.So before I take off completely I will use the pedal to push them out to grease them. Are they long enough to push out until they touch each other or maybe a thin piece of metal in-between so I can use it to push them apart after greasing.Thinking if I buy the set with new pistons and mine are ok I could sell the new pistons on their own.
Post by: Gnasher on 30 March 2020, 12:28:47 pm
Are they long enough to push out until they touch each other or maybe a thin piece of metal in-between so I can use it to push them apart after greasing.
As stated above
"Push them both out with a single pad between them, get them a equal as possible"
Post by: Fazerider on 30 March 2020, 01:44:06 pm
Good tips thanks. Think I will invest in a pair of piston pliers. No rain or salt in 19 years ;) . Which seals is it in the master cylinder I cant tell in the fowlers exploded diagram.
If you’ve avoided wet and salty roads it’s a fair bet that the pistons will be fine. I've never needed to split calipers... i see which piston moves easier then use a small G-clamp to hold it in while using the pedal to pump the difficult one out. Then piston pliers to wriggle the other out.
If the seals on the master cylinder haven’t been replaced recently I’d change ‘em. Yamaha say to do so every 4 years for all the hydraulics’ rubber components, though that is a bit over-cautious.
You can avoid problems with bleed nipples by greasing the threads when you put them in. And a squirt of WD40 down the hole after bleeding blows out that nasty hygroscopic brake fluid... just keep your face out of the firing line when you do. :)
Fowlers Item 6, the “Cylinder Kit, Master” is what I’ve bought in the past. It does include more than strictly needed, but I don’t think you can get the individual rubber parts separately.
As you probably know, getting air out of the back brake is a pain because the path the fluid fluid takes goes up and down. Air trapped in the master cylinder is best removed by slackening the banjo at the top.
Post by: fazersharp on 30 March 2020, 07:53:04 pm
yeiks that's another 56 quid, how many parts of that number 6 are actually rubber that is to be replaced.
Fowlers Item 6, the “Cylinder Kit, Master” is what I’ve bought in the past. It does include more than strictly needed, but I don’t think you can get the individual rubber parts separately.
As you probably know, getting air out of the back brake is a pain because the path the fluid fluid takes goes up and down. Air trapped in the master cylinder is best removed by slackening the banjo at the top.
Does anyone actually replace master cylinder parts. I was thinking maybe the diafram but not everything else.
I haven't got as far as bleeding reading tips. Panicking a little to just get stuff ordered before even more lockdowns
Post by: fazersharp on 30 March 2020, 07:54:54 pm
:thumbup :thumbupAre they long enough to push out until they touch each other or maybe a thin piece of metal in-between so I can use it to push them apart after greasing.
As stated above
"Push them both out with a single pad between them, get them a equal as possible"
Post by: fazersharp on 31 March 2020, 09:40:00 am
Post by: Dynspud on 31 March 2020, 10:03:27 am
I bought these last year and they work just fine:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Draper-Expert-240mm-Motorcycle-Brake-Piston-Pliers-30838/141965433314?hash=item210dcc99e2:g:Nr8AAOSwYlRZJG7q (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Draper-Expert-240mm-Motorcycle-Brake-Piston-Pliers-30838/141965433314?hash=item210dcc99e2:g:Nr8AAOSwYlRZJG7q)
Post by: fazersharp on 31 March 2020, 10:39:45 am
Post by: fazersharp on 31 March 2020, 10:44:09 am
Often the only way is to split the caliper and twist them out, If you split it and you've not got the seal, you run the risk of it leaking should you reuse it, it will leak.If I need to split the caliper Is the seal just a flat washer, I can not see it on the fowlers diagram.
Post by: bandit on 31 March 2020, 11:13:34 am
Often the only way is to split the caliper and twist them out, If you split it and you've not got the seal, you run the risk of it leaking should you reuse it, it will leak.If I need to split the caliper Is the seal just a flat washer, I can not see it on the fowlers diagram.
This is what it's like but hope the one's you get look a bit better,
[size=78%]https://yambits.co.uk/fzs600-fazer-brake-caliper-body-fluid-seal-rear-p-92407.html (https://yambits.co.uk/fzs600-fazer-brake-caliper-body-fluid-seal-rear-p-92407.html)[/size][/size]
Post by: fazersharp on 31 March 2020, 11:20:12 am
:lol Thanks for that at least I know what they look like but if they are new then I think I will take my chances with the old ones :lolOften the only way is to split the caliper and twist them out, If you split it and you've not got the seal, you run the risk of it leaking should you reuse it, it will leak.If I need to split the caliper Is the seal just a flat washer, I can not see it on the fowlers diagram.
This is what it's like but hope the one's you get look a bit better,
[size=78%]https://yambits.co.uk/fzs600-fazer-brake-caliper-body-fluid-seal-rear-p-92407.html (https://yambits.co.uk/fzs600-fazer-brake-caliper-body-fluid-seal-rear-p-92407.html)[/size]
Looking at delboys garage vid he said he has never needed to replace the split seals. Also not a single mention of red rubber grease on that vid. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC_Id6rgP3g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC_Id6rgP3g)
Post by: bandit on 31 March 2020, 11:36:20 am
[size=78%][size=78%] :lol Thanks for that at least I know what they look like but if they are new then I think I will take my chances with the old ones :lolOften the only way is to split the caliper and twist them out, If you split it and you've not got the seal, you run the risk of it leaking should you reuse it, it will leak.If I need to split the caliper Is the seal just a flat washer, I can not see it on the fowlers diagram.
I do find delboys vids very informative but I would use red rubber grease & instead of copper grease on pad backs I would use ceramic brake grease this is available from Euro car parts or Carparts4less
[size=78%]https://www.eurocarparts.com/p/pagid-ceratec-brake-lube-75ml-grease-526770250 ([url]https://www.eurocarparts.com/p/pagid-ceratec-brake-lube-75ml-grease-526770250[/url])[/size]
[size=78%]If you haven't bought your piston seals yet try Powerhouse-UK on Ebay, kits are £19.99 without pistons or £59.99 with. [/size]
This is what it's like but hope the one's you get look a bit better,[size=78%]
[/size] [size=78%][/size][size=78%]https://yambits.co.uk/fzs600-fazer-brake-caliper-body-fluid-seal-rear-p-92407.html ([url]https://yambits.co.uk/fzs600-fazer-brake-caliper-body-fluid-seal-rear-p-92407.html[/url])[/size]
Looking at delboys garage vid he said he has never needed to replace the split seals. Also not a single mention of red rubber grease on that vid. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC_Id6rgP3g[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC_Id6rgP3g[/url])
[/size]
As well as the info above this may also help you to.
http://www.redrubbergrease.com/tips-how-to-brake-caliper-failure-repair-with-rebuild-kit.html (http://www.redrubbergrease.com/tips-how-to-brake-caliper-failure-repair-with-rebuild-kit.html)[/size]
Post by: fazersharp on 31 March 2020, 12:00:24 pm
Post by: fazersharp on 31 March 2020, 12:07:08 pm
Post by: Gnasher on 31 March 2020, 12:09:48 pm
As well as the info above this may also help you to.
[url]http://www.redrubbergrease.com/tips-how-to-brake-caliper-failure-repair-with-rebuild-kit.html[/url] ([url]http://www.redrubbergrease.com/tips-how-to-brake-caliper-failure-repair-with-rebuild-kit.html[/url])
Don't follow this advice or use copper grease on the seals, a smear is all that is needed. I would also recommend you don't reuse any old seals even the caliper body seal it will leak, maybe not straight away but it will, don't say I didn't tell you. :rolleyes
Post by: Gnasher on 31 March 2020, 12:14:00 pm
Last min STUPID QUESTION Just about to buy the PISTON ASSY, CALIPER 51L-W0057-00 on the fowlers site the kit is for 2 pistons and 4 seals isn't it. And not just for one side ? :o
Yes, that part No gives you 2 pistons, dust and main seals. Well the box I've got in stock has.
Post by: fazersharp on 31 March 2020, 12:21:00 pm
I if I need to split then I will put in new seals - thank you. But how many do I need and from where do I get em. bandits post is very helpful but I dont lie the look of those new ones. A smear - thanks, I thought there was a bit much in those pictures. Absolutely no copper grease, I have a 500g tub of red rubber grease should last me 1,000 years.
As well as the info above this may also help you to.
[url]http://www.redrubbergrease.com/tips-how-to-brake-caliper-failure-repair-with-rebuild-kit.html[/url] ([url]http://www.redrubbergrease.com/tips-how-to-brake-caliper-failure-repair-with-rebuild-kit.html[/url])
Don't follow this advice or use copper grease on the seals, a smear is all that is needed. I would also recommend you don't reuse any old seals even the caliper body seal it will leak, maybe not straight away but it will, don't say I didn't tell you. :rolleyes
Post by: Gnasher on 31 March 2020, 12:33:53 pm
I if I need to split then I will put in new seals - thank you. But how many do I need and from where do I get em. bandits post is very helpful but I dont lie the look of those new ones.
You need one, as I said in I think it was may first post, Suzuki GS 500 caliper seal fits, order it at the same time from Fowlers
Post by: fazersharp on 31 March 2020, 12:43:58 pm
Ah - so you did - my bad -thank you. I am having a massive wobble on the "kit" because when you click on it the next page only show 1 side https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/view/51L-W0057-00 (https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/view/51L-W0057-00)I if I need to split then I will put in new seals - thank you. But how many do I need and from where do I get em. bandits post is very helpful but I dont lie the look of those new ones.
You need one, as I said in I think it was may first post, Suzuki GS 500 caliper seal fits, order it at the same time from Fowlers
Post by: Gnasher on 31 March 2020, 01:02:37 pm
Ah - so you did - my bad -thank you. I am having a massive wobble on the "kit" because when you click on it the next page only show 1 side https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/view/51L-W0057-00 (https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/view/51L-W0057-00)
You're looking at the wrong bike look here [size=78%]https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/4165872/fzs600-fazer-5dm7-2000-070-a/rear-disc-and-caliper (https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/4165872/fzs600-fazer-5dm7-2000-070-a/rear-disc-and-caliper)[/size] albeit it's the same caliper, I don't know what year or colour yours is so the actual ref may be wrong but all 98- 20 odd bikes are the same parts just colour.
The drawings are misleading at times and Fowlers don't put all the info in i.e. column Qty used, the part is correct you should get the complete kit for the whole caliper i.e. 2 of everything. Give them a call if you're unsure they can look in the box or they'll look on the real part catalogue.
Post by: Gnasher on 31 March 2020, 01:16:15 pm
https://www.motorcyclespareparts.eu/en/yamaha-parts/51lw00570000 (https://www.motorcyclespareparts.eu/en/yamaha-parts/51lw00570000)
Post by: bandit on 31 March 2020, 01:33:07 pm
Put Powerhouse-uk Brakes into your search engine,then bike brakes drop down box,then select brake caliper seal kits then Yamaha seal kits, as said £19.99 complete kit without pistons, the two seals next to the bleed nipples are for the caliper body. You only need to red rubber grease the face of the fluid seal after fitting into bore then the lips of the dust seal before inserting the piston. Copper grease will knacker your new seals, the ceramic grease has been designed as it contains no metal fragments to effect A.B.S systems on cars etc but is a bit more better looking than copper on your caliper & does not effect the braking surface of your pads if it gets on them.
Post by: Gnasher on 31 March 2020, 01:41:01 pm
If splitting the caliper body it requires 2 seals not one.
Nope.....one
Post by: fazersharp on 31 March 2020, 01:44:10 pm
Post by: fazersharp on 31 March 2020, 01:47:52 pm
This is another confirmation, these only sell genuine parts for the part No 51W00570000 you get 2 pistons, dust and main seals.I have spoken to a nice chap called Steve at fowlers and he too initially shared my confusion but then sort of confirmed it was 2 pistons. Normally he could look but is working at home so on his advice I have sent an email and hopefully someone can look in the box for me - as you said Gnasher
https://www.motorcyclespareparts.eu/en/yamaha-parts/51lw00570000 (https://www.motorcyclespareparts.eu/en/yamaha-parts/51lw00570000)
Post by: fazersharp on 31 March 2020, 02:07:01 pm
I cannot find the GS500 caliper split washer on fowlers as a separate item I would like to find it on fowlers so I can add it to the order if I can.
Post by: bandit on 31 March 2020, 02:16:42 pm
Just heard back from fowlers and although they can not check right now they are confident it is 2 pistons.
I cannot find the GS500 caliper split washer on fowlers as a separate item I would like to find it on fowlers so I can add it to the order if I can.
Your will need two trust me the GS500E has only one rear piston so only needs one body seal the Fzs600 as you know has two opposing ones look on Yambits & Powerhouse you need two as supplied their in the pic on Powerhouse & Yambits says two required.
Post by: Gnasher on 31 March 2020, 02:28:22 pm
Your will need two trust me the GS500E has only one rear piston so only needs one body seal the Fzs600 as you know has two opposing ones look on Yambits & Powerhouse you need two as supplied their in the pic on Powerhouse & Yambits says two required.
Matey you're confusing pistons/seals with caliper body seal, which looks like a small washer and seals the gallery between the caliper half here top right one and only one.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49720516252_2fc2772e8c_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iKCDfd)
Post by: fazersharp on 31 March 2020, 02:32:10 pm
One it is then. Could you point me to it on fowlers please. I just keep finding it as a kit and not on its own.Your will need two trust me the GS500E has only one rear piston so only needs one body seal the Fzs600 as you know has two opposing ones look on Yambits & Powerhouse you need two as supplied their in the pic on Powerhouse & Yambits says two required.Matey you're confusing pistons/seals with caliper body seal, which looks like a small washer and seals the gallery between the caliper half here top right one and only one.
Post by: Gnasher on 31 March 2020, 02:33:56 pm
I cannot find the GS500 caliper split washer on fowlers as a separate item I would like to find it on fowlers so I can add it to the order if I can.
Here No 2
https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/5286159/gs500e-v-y-97-00/rear-caliper (https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/5286159/gs500e-v-y-97-00/rear-caliper)
It's slightly smaller in O/D but works perfectly fitted loads on them.
Post by: fazersharp on 31 March 2020, 02:44:23 pm
Post by: Gnasher on 31 March 2020, 02:53:34 pm
Great thanks but maybe i am not looking at the correct picture but its £16.44 and all I will be needing is 1 rubber washer :eek
Oh that's rocketed in price I bought about 30 of them years ago they were less than a £1, nothing surprises me with parts. If you've got piston pliers and your caliper is as you say and the pistons are moving freely, you should be able to get the pistons out without splitting the body. It just makes cleaning the seal rebates and fitting new seals a little harder, only you can make the decision.
Try without splitting if you have to you'll just have to bite the bullet and order the seal, Fowlers are good for delivery times. [/size][size=78%] [/size]
Post by: fazersharp on 31 March 2020, 03:04:39 pm
Post by: bandit on 31 March 2020, 03:45:44 pm
Your will need two trust me the GS500E has only one rear piston so only needs one body seal the Fzs600 as you know has two opposing ones look on Yambits & Powerhouse you need two as supplied their in the pic on Powerhouse & Yambits says two required.
Matey you're confusing pistons/seals with caliper body seal, which looks like a small washer and seals the gallery between the caliper half here top right one and only one.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49720516252_2fc2772e8c_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iKCDfd)
O.K then but I don't mean the piston fluid seals or dust seals as I have already stated on two different sites, these are neither & it says two?
[size=78%]https://yambits.co.uk/fzs600-fazer-brake-caliper-body-fluid-seal-rear-p-92407.html (https://yambits.co.uk/fzs600-fazer-brake-caliper-body-fluid-seal-rear-p-92407.html)[/size][size=78%] [/size]
Post by: bandit on 31 March 2020, 04:02:07 pm
For blowing out the pistons insert a adaptor that comes with most pumps the long funnel shaped one into the caliper where the brake hose connects. Don't buy your seals from Wemoto as someone on here found they didn't fit.
The adaptor required a rag around it to seal against the caliper may required to get a airtight seal.
https://www.bikestop.co.uk/oxford-air-valve-adaptor-kit?gclid=EAIaIQobChMImN2rgf3E6AIVR5nVCh1NpgthEAQYAiABEgK2ifD_BwE (https://www.bikestop.co.uk/oxford-air-valve-adaptor-kit?gclid=EAIaIQobChMImN2rgf3E6AIVR5nVCh1NpgthEAQYAiABEgK2ifD_BwE)
Good luck.
Post by: Gnasher on 31 March 2020, 04:14:43 pm
O.K then but I don't mean the piston fluid seals or dust seals as I have already stated on two different sites, these are neither & it says two?
They're wrong, I would suggest you exercise caution when looking at independent aftermarket websites/sellers they often get it wrong. The same goes for you offering advice to people on how to do things especially brakes when, by your own admission you've never done it and you clearly don't really know what your doing. :stop [size=78%] [/size]
Post by: bandit on 31 March 2020, 04:27:18 pm
O.K then but I don't mean the piston fluid seals or dust seals as I have already stated on two different sites, these are neither & it says two?
They're wrong, I would suggest you exercise caution when looking at independent aftermarket websites/sellers they often get it wrong. The same goes for you offering advice to people on how to do things especially brakes when, by your own admission you've never done it and you clearly don't really know what your doing. :stop [size=78%] [/size]
Well really! done plenty of brake seals thanks so don't need any advise from you.
Post by: fazersharp on 31 March 2020, 04:29:15 pm
Post by: fazersharp on 31 March 2020, 04:32:44 pm
I've got an idea, gnasher says 1 and bandit says 2 > so I will buy 3 and then that covers all opinions :lolO.K then but I don't mean the piston fluid seals or dust seals as I have already stated on two different sites, these are neither & it says two?
They're wrong, I would suggest you exercise caution when looking at independent aftermarket websites/sellers they often get it wrong. The same goes for you offering advice to people on how to do things especially brakes when, by your own admission you've never done it and you clearly don't really know what your doing. :stop [size=78%] [/size]
Well really! done plenty of brake seals thanks so don't need any advise from you.
Post by: red98 on 31 March 2020, 04:41:41 pm
Post by: fazersharp on 31 March 2020, 04:42:06 pm
Post by: fazersharp on 31 March 2020, 04:44:03 pm
SHARPIE...thats a great idea.buy three.use one on your caliiper.have one as a spare and give me the other one.... :thumbupCan you measure the diameter of the recess for me please.
Post by: red98 on 31 March 2020, 04:46:36 pm
Post by: fazersharp on 31 March 2020, 04:49:31 pm
haven`t got a seal to measure but i can measure the the caliper body which should be good enough,give me a minute...Great that's what I meant. I have heard back from powerhouse that tell me its 11mm - this one according to them https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-11mm-brake-caliper-joint-seal-RD350-YVS-F1-F2-N1-N2-XJ600-Diversion-SRX-/151490152619?hash=item23458448ab (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-11mm-brake-caliper-joint-seal-RD350-YVS-F1-F2-N1-N2-XJ600-Diversion-SRX-/151490152619?hash=item23458448ab)
Post by: Gnasher on 31 March 2020, 04:52:58 pm
Well really! done plenty of brake seals thanks so don't need any advise from you.
Clearly you do as you've got know idea, it all speaks for it's self. Never done it, scour the internet for others advice/Utube etc the offer advice to others which is wrong :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
It would be funny, but it's not others will believe you and get it wrong or it this case spend money the don't have to. Mine you people like you do put money my way ;) as owners bring their bikes to me after they've tried following internet forum advice form the likes of you or tried following Utube, only to find out they've been told wrong and it's not as easy as it looks.
Post by: Gnasher on 31 March 2020, 04:55:24 pm
If there is one then that would explain why you first bleed from the back nipple wouldn't it ?
Sure is ;) :)
Post by: red98 on 31 March 2020, 04:59:23 pm
Post by: fazersharp on 31 March 2020, 05:05:07 pm
Post by: Gnasher on 31 March 2020, 05:05:39 pm
haven`t got a seal to measure but i can measure the the caliper body which should be good enough,give me a minute...
You need to allow for the crush effect, it's not much but must be allowed for say .05 - 1mm O/D. I've not got one to measure here but it should sit slightly proud no more than a mm.
One of the cheaper ones will work no doubt, it's not like it moves but I've never used anything other than what I've stated. I would go for non split rebuild first, if you can't get the pistons out then go for a split, it's takes only an hour ish to rebuild the thing.
Post by: Gnasher on 31 March 2020, 05:07:47 pm
bit unsteady with the camera.i need 3 right hands :lol
Use the other end of the caliper yaw mate, it's designed for I/D measurements :thumbup
Post by: red98 on 31 March 2020, 05:14:20 pm
Post by: Gnasher on 31 March 2020, 05:51:28 pm
i know that,senior moment... :rollin :rollin :rollin
We all get them :D ;) :rollin :rollin
Post by: fazersharp on 31 March 2020, 06:14:10 pm
Its alright for you as you can get away with it just being a senior moment --- I'm just a twat :loli know that,senior moment... :rollin :rollin :rollin
We all get them :D ;) :rollin :rollin
Post by: Gnasher on 31 March 2020, 06:18:30 pm
Its alright for you as you can get away with it just being a senior moment --- I'm just a twat :loli know that,senior moment... :rollin :rollin :rollin
We all get them :D ;) :rollin :rollin
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin ;)
Post by: red98 on 31 March 2020, 06:23:01 pm
Its alright for you as you can get away with it just being a senior moment --- I'm just a twat :loli know that,senior moment... :rollin :rollin :rollin
We all get them :D ;) :rollin :rollin
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin ;)
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
Post by: fazersharp on 31 March 2020, 09:38:19 pm
Post by: red98 on 31 March 2020, 10:03:28 pm
Post by: fazersharp on 31 March 2020, 10:07:55 pm
only one :rolleyesoops sorry
Post by: red98 on 31 March 2020, 10:22:17 pm
Post by: Disorderlypunk on 31 March 2020, 11:07:17 pm
after i split, blasted and painted my rear calipers i definatly replaced mine because after a while they do harden/deform.
the problem is using the correct material and i researched like mad into this because i didnt want to F up and use the wrong stuff like nitrile which is something delboy would prob use if he needed to replace (yeah i have problems with a lot delboys stuff)
the easiest kind of o-ring to get is made of EPDM
thankfully du-pont are chemists and let us into there world by giving a compatability list
https://mscrm-dupont.secure.force.com/CRG_TlargiGuide (https://mscrm-dupont.secure.force.com/CRG_TlargiGuide)
https://mscrm-dupont.secure.force.com/CRG_TlargiGuide (https://mscrm-dupont.secure.force.com/CRG_TlargiGuide)
-its your brakes - its your lives - its a couple of quid i would rather not scrimp on
Post by: fazersharp on 31 March 2020, 11:37:56 pm
ooh god - delboy got mentioned so lets just jump on inNot a fan of his either, not sure what you are referring to about "o rings" brought a sealing washer for rejoining 2 halves from webmoto and pistons and seals from fowlers
after i split, blasted and painted my rear calipers i definatly replaced mine because after a while they do harden/deform.
the problem is using the correct material and i researched like mad into this because i didnt want to F up and use the wrong stuff like nitrile which is something delboy would prob use if he needed to replace (yeah i have problems with a lot delboys stuff)
the easiest kind of o-ring to get is made of EPDM
thankfully du-pont are chemists and let us into there world by giving a compatability list
https://mscrm-dupont.secure.force.com/CRG_TlargiGuide (https://mscrm-dupont.secure.force.com/CRG_TlargiGuide)
https://mscrm-dupont.secure.force.com/CRG_TlargiGuide (https://mscrm-dupont.secure.force.com/CRG_TlargiGuide)
-its your brakes - its your lives - its a couple of quid i would rather not scrimp on
Post by: Gnasher on 01 April 2020, 08:29:07 am
ooh god - delboy got mentioned so lets just jump on inNot a fan of his either, not sure what you are referring to about "o rings" brought a sealing washer for rejoining 2 halves from webmoto and pistons and seals from fowlers
after i split, blasted and painted my rear calipers i definatly replaced mine because after a while they do harden/deform.
the problem is using the correct material and i researched like mad into this because i didnt want to F up and use the wrong stuff like nitrile which is something delboy would prob use if he needed to replace (yeah i have problems with a lot delboys stuff)
the easiest kind of o-ring to get is made of EPDM
thankfully du-pont are chemists and let us into there world by giving a compatability list
https://mscrm-dupont.secure.force.com/CRG_TlargiGuide (https://mscrm-dupont.secure.force.com/CRG_TlargiGuide)
https://mscrm-dupont.secure.force.com/CRG_TlargiGuide (https://mscrm-dupont.secure.force.com/CRG_TlargiGuide)
-its your brakes - its your lives - its a couple of quid i would rather not scrimp on
Your seal from Webmoto will be fine I'm sure. The use of Orings in place of flat seals isn't really the way to go, yes it will work, for how long I've know idea. An Oring is made to seal around a circumference or and edge, not flat surfaces and won't have the surface contact area of the flat seal. Flat surface area contact will be achieved by crushing the Oring which could cause deformity, which under pressure will leek.
Yes it will work to a point, but I wouldn't recommend it.
Post by: fazersharp on 01 April 2020, 11:19:47 am
I have came across some croc whilst reading up. like, "soak the new seals in brake fluid to make them more supple and easier to fit" -- "don't get brake cleaner on them as it makes them brittle"ooh god - delboy got mentioned so lets just jump on inNot a fan of his either, not sure what you are referring to about "o rings" brought a sealing washer for rejoining 2 halves from webmoto and pistons and seals from fowlers
after i split, blasted and painted my rear calipers i definatly replaced mine because after a while they do harden/deform.
the problem is using the correct material and i researched like mad into this because i didnt want to F up and use the wrong stuff like nitrile which is something delboy would prob use if he needed to replace (yeah i have problems with a lot delboys stuff)
the easiest kind of o-ring to get is made of EPDM
thankfully du-pont are chemists and let us into there world by giving a compatability list
https://mscrm-dupont.secure.force.com/CRG_TlargiGuide (https://mscrm-dupont.secure.force.com/CRG_TlargiGuide)
https://mscrm-dupont.secure.force.com/CRG_TlargiGuide (https://mscrm-dupont.secure.force.com/CRG_TlargiGuide)
-its your brakes - its your lives - its a couple of quid i would rather not scrimp on
Your seal from Webmoto will be fine I'm sure. The use of Orings in place of flat seals isn't really the way to go, yes it will work, for how long I've know idea. An Oring is made to seal around a circumference or and edge, not flat surfaces and won't have the surface contact area of the flat seal. Flat surface area contact will be achieved by crushing the Oring which could cause deformity, which under pressure will leek.
Yes it will work to a point, but I wouldn't recommend it.
Post by: Gnasher on 01 April 2020, 11:29:37 am
I have came across some croc whilst reading up. like, "soak the new seals in brake fluid to make them more supple and easier to fit" -- "don't get brake cleaner on them as it makes them brittle"
More useless internet opinions by people who know nothing or very little :rolleyes
You can either just wipe the seals with a little fluid or brake grease, a little so the surface looks wet. ;) :)
Post by: fazersharp on 01 April 2020, 11:56:06 am
A few years ago I fitted hel lines on the front and could not find any little sachets of grease cant remember how hard I looked on the internet but none of the local car factors or bike shops had sachets like they do of copper grease so I ended up buying a whole tub :eekI have came across some croc whilst reading up. like, "soak the new seals in brake fluid to make them more supple and easier to fit" -- "don't get brake cleaner on them as it makes them brittle"
More useless internet opinions by people who know nothing or very little :rolleyes
You can either just wipe the seals with a little fluid or brake grease, a little so the surface looks wet. ;) :)
Post by: Disorderlypunk on 01 April 2020, 01:04:04 pm
sorry i did say o ring but ment washer its cause i have a pack sat on my desk infront of me for when i get round to rebuilding my suspensionooh god - delboy got mentioned so lets just jump on inNot a fan of his either, not sure what you are referring to about "o rings" brought a sealing washer for rejoining 2 halves from webmoto and pistons and seals from fowlers
after i split, blasted and painted my rear calipers i definatly replaced mine because after a while they do harden/deform.
the problem is using the correct material and i researched like mad into this because i didnt want to F up and use the wrong stuff like nitrile which is something delboy would prob use if he needed to replace (yeah i have problems with a lot delboys stuff)
the easiest kind of o-ring to get is made of EPDM
thankfully du-pont are chemists and let us into there world by giving a compatability list
https://mscrm-dupont.secure.force.com/CRG_TlargiGuide (https://mscrm-dupont.secure.force.com/CRG_TlargiGuide)
https://mscrm-dupont.secure.force.com/CRG_TlargiGuide (https://mscrm-dupont.secure.force.com/CRG_TlargiGuide)
-its your brakes - its your lives - its a couple of quid i would rather not scrimp on
Your seal from Webmoto will be fine I'm sure. The use of Orings in place of flat seals isn't really the way to go, yes it will work, for how long I've know idea. An Oring is made to seal around a circumference or and edge, not flat surfaces and won't have the surface contact area of the flat seal. Flat surface area contact will be achieved by crushing the Oring which could cause deformity, which under pressure will leek.
Yes it will work to a point, but I wouldn't recommend it.
(probably later todays lockdown project)
Post by: fazersharp on 01 April 2020, 01:49:43 pm
sorry i did say o ring but ment washer its cause i have a pack sat on my desk infront of me for when i get round to rebuilding my suspensionIm confused now - what have you got in front of you.
(probably later todays lockdown project)
- a pack of proper brake halve sealing washers
- a pack of o rings
- a pack of rubber tap washers
- a pack of rubber condoms
- a pack of crisps
Post by: Gnasher on 01 April 2020, 02:01:10 pm
Im confused now - what have you got in front of you.
- a pack of proper brake halve sealing washers
- a pack of o rings
- a pack of rubber tap washers
- a pack of rubber condoms
- a pack of crisps
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
Post by: Disorderlypunk on 01 April 2020, 02:30:03 pm
Post by: fazersharp on 01 April 2020, 07:38:19 pm
Post by: Gnasher on 01 April 2020, 08:24:51 pm
My pistons and seals came today > fantastic service from Fowlers les than 24 hours. And am happy to confirm that it was 2 pistons :) even came with a little satchet of grease # cute.
:thumbup
Post by: fazersharp on 02 April 2020, 09:08:57 pm
Post by: red98 on 02 April 2020, 09:53:00 pm
Post by: fazersharp on 02 April 2020, 09:59:06 pm
thats not fair :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( i ordered my tyre valves the same day and not got them yet...Webmoto? They sent me the last key ring and they can't send goods out without one :lol
Post by: red98 on 02 April 2020, 10:03:55 pm
Post by: vinnyb on 02 April 2020, 10:17:45 pm
yep,wemoto, been using them for years..........dont want a foccin keyring anyway...Envy is a terrible trait :lol
Post by: fazersharp on 02 April 2020, 10:23:36 pm
Post by: red98 on 02 April 2020, 10:36:24 pm
Post by: fazersharp on 02 April 2020, 10:51:31 pm
nah nah nah nah nah... cant hear you...nah nah nah nah nahYou seem deflated :rollin
Post by: vinnyb on 02 April 2020, 10:51:55 pm
nah nah nah nah nah... cant hear you...nah nah nah nah nahAw Bless. Just keep telling yourself, 'it's only a poxy keyring, it's only a poxy keyring'
Post by: Disorderlypunk on 03 April 2020, 04:15:17 am
they used to send out little pads of notepaper which was always handy
Post by: red98 on 03 April 2020, 08:58:36 am
oooooo...look at my note pad...
all i want is a couple of tyre valves,i wont be fooled with cheap "gifts" they cant sell......simple minds :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes
Post by: vinnyb on 03 April 2020, 09:57:54 am
Post by: Gnasher on 03 April 2020, 10:11:19 am
oooooo...look at my keyring...
oooooo...look at my note pad...
all i want is a couple of tyre valves,i wont be fooled with cheap "gifts" they cant sell......simple minds :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes
What you need is one of these
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49729649983_1f36fdcb11_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iLrsok)
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :D
Post by: Jamieg285 on 03 April 2020, 02:03:19 pm
You seem deflated :rollin
There's a reason for that - and it's not the keyring...
i ordered my tyre valves the same day and not got them yet...
:evil
Post by: fazersharp on 03 April 2020, 02:11:50 pm
That was the point of my post Jamie it was a joke, one of these :pokefunYou seem deflated :rollin
There's a reason for that - and it's not the keyring...i ordered my tyre valves the same day and not got them yet...
:evil
Post by: red98 on 03 April 2020, 05:48:57 pm
oooooo...look at my keyring...
oooooo...look at my note pad...
all i want is a couple of tyre valves,i wont be fooled with cheap "gifts" they cant sell......simple minds :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes
What you need is one of these
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49729649983_1f36fdcb11_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iLrsok)
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :D
well i did not expect that from you GNASHER , one of a handfull of people on here who i would ask for advice and someone who i would trust....
thats got me thinking now.........are you delboy in disguise.....
did my package come today ?..........not telling :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Post by: Gnasher on 03 April 2020, 06:51:54 pm
well i did not expect that from you GNASHER , one of a handfull of people on here who i would ask for advice and someone who i would trust....
thats got me thinking now.........are you delboy in disguise.....
did my package come today ?..........not telling :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin ;) :D
Post by: red98 on 03 April 2020, 07:58:17 pm
well i did not expect that from you GNASHER , one of a handfull of people on here who i would ask for advice and someone who i would trust....
thats got me thinking now.........are you delboy in disguise.....
did my package come today ?..........not telling :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin ;) :D
BUSTED :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
Post by: vinnyb on 03 April 2020, 10:10:42 pm
Post by: Gnasher on 04 April 2020, 09:33:18 am
BUSTED :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
For what, for what pray tell :rolleyes
Post by: red98 on 04 April 2020, 09:50:36 am
BUSTED :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
For what, for what pray tell :rolleyes
come on Derek....keep up....... ;)
Post by: red98 on 04 April 2020, 09:56:38 am
sorry MR SHARPIE...went off track a bit, how you doing with the "REAR BRAKE REFURB" or are you new parts still in quarantine ?...
Post by: Gnasher on 04 April 2020, 10:35:09 am
come on Derek....keep up....... ;)
Who's Derek.......................................................?
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
Post by: fazersharp on 04 April 2020, 11:27:00 am
:hijack :hijack :hijack :hijack :hijack :hijackNo hijack as far as im concerned.
sorry MR SHARPIE...went off track a bit, how you doing with the "REAR BRAKE REFURB" or are you new parts still in quarantine ?...
Unfortunately I have not received any keyrings today but did receive my DOT4 fluid. Last item to arrive is a piston removal tool.
Post by: Gnasher on 04 April 2020, 11:29:30 am
:hijack :hijack :hijack :hijack :hijack :hijackNo hijack as far as im concerned.
sorry MR SHARPIE...went off track a bit, how you doing with the "REAR BRAKE REFURB" or are you new parts still in quarantine ?...
Unfortunately I have not received any keyrings today but did receive my DOT4 fluid. Last item to arrive is a piston removal tool.
Almost there mate, if you get any tyre valves, you know where to send them
:pokefun :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :D
Post by: red98 on 06 April 2020, 01:08:07 pm
Post by: Gnasher on 06 April 2020, 01:40:26 pm
look what ive got :thumbup
:thumbup
Post by: fazersharp on 06 April 2020, 02:25:49 pm
Post by: red98 on 06 April 2020, 02:54:47 pm
Post by: fazersharp on 06 April 2020, 05:22:32 pm
terrible guess :rolleyes ....they are tyre valves SHARPIE....two tyre valves :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyesBut did you get a keyring
Post by: red98 on 06 April 2020, 05:59:10 pm
terrible guess :rolleyes ....they are tyre valves SHARPIE....two tyre valves :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyesBut did you get a keyring
no keyring for me...i have something much better... :pokefun
Post by: red98 on 07 April 2020, 12:39:35 pm
terrible guess :rolleyes ....they are tyre valves SHARPIE....two tyre valves :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyesBut did you get a keyring
no keyring for me...i have something much better... :pokefun
i said....I HAVE SOMETHING MUCH BETTER... :pokefun :pokefun :pokefun
Post by: fazersharp on 07 April 2020, 07:45:55 pm
2 keyringsterrible guess :rolleyes ....they are tyre valves SHARPIE....two tyre valves :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyesBut did you get a keyring
no keyring for me...i have something much better... :pokefun
i said....I HAVE SOMETHING MUCH BETTER... :pokefun :pokefun :pokefun
Post by: red98 on 07 April 2020, 08:01:06 pm
Post by: fazersharp on 07 April 2020, 08:19:19 pm
:rollin :rollin :rollin better than 3 keyrings :rollin :rollin :rollinYou FOCING genius ---- brilliant :rollin
Post by: fazersharp on 09 April 2020, 10:00:15 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiWnc4fNGCo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiWnc4fNGCo)
Post by: Gnasher on 09 April 2020, 10:27:55 am
What do people think of this - using a syringe. I have got a big enough syringe to do it in one go. And the caliper in the air "trick"
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiWnc4fNGCo[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiWnc4fNGCo[/url])
Del boy is the right title :rollin :rollin
This isn't a good idea as you will aerate the fluid with microscopic bubbles, which will eventually form into lager air bubbles and you'll have a spongy break, and have to do it all over again.
Push the pistons right back into the caliper, fill the master cylinder reservoir, open the rear bleed nipple wait for the fluid to drain out, close it, open front, repeat as for the rear, all the time keeping the reservoir topped. Sometimes you have to pump the peddle a few times, do it slowly. Now bleed as normal from the back nipple, job done.
The rears are normally very easy to bleed.
Post by: fazersharp on 09 April 2020, 10:53:23 am
"simple as that" - as he says.Looked convincing but not with a small syringe that adds air each time.
Push the pistons right back into the caliper, fill the master cylinder reservoir, open the rear bleed nipple wait for the fluid to drain out, close it, open front, repeat as for the rear, all the time keeping the reservoir topped. Sometimes you have to pump the peddle a few times, do it slowly. Now bleed as normal from the back nipple, job done.
The rears are normally very easy to bleed.
Quote
Now bleed as normal from the back nippleDo you mean from the back one (nearest the wheel ) first then the one on the outside.
Post by: Gnasher on 09 April 2020, 10:54:46 am
[Do you mean from the back one (nearest the wheel ) first then the one on the outside.
Yes mate :)
Post by: fazersharp on 09 April 2020, 11:23:38 am
:thumbup[Do you mean from the back one (nearest the wheel ) first then the one on the outside.
Yes mate :)
I have put my 500ml bottle of carplan fluid in a quiet spot to "rest"before I use it
Post by: fazersharp on 23 April 2020, 10:02:50 am
Post by: Gnasher on 23 April 2020, 10:16:17 am
Just an update. I will be posting some pictures but as yet have not started the refurb. I need to do some jobs around Sharp Hall that have been put off because I was busy with work but because of lockdown I now have no excuse. So once I have done enough jobs to gain enough Fazer points I can start on the bike. :D
I was wondering................. can see you don't were the trousers around Sharp Hall ;) :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
Post by: fazersharp on 09 May 2020, 10:46:19 am
By the time I get around to doing it lockdown will be lifted. Running out of jobs around sharp hall so I wii be able to borrow mrs sharps trousers and do my brake soon. :lol
Post by: Gnasher on 09 May 2020, 10:50:00 am
I panicked brought all I needed to do the job as I thought that I would end up not being able to get hold of things I needed due to extra lockdown.
By the time I get around to doing it lockdown will be lifted. Running out of jobs around sharp hall so I wii be able to borrow mrs sharps trousers and do my brake soon. :lol
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin