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General / Re: Part worn tyres,would you use them??
« on: 14 September 2012, 09:29:47 am »
had a maxxis rear fitted to my 600 a few weeks back......£83 fitted to loose wheel,at that price not worth bothering with second hand  :D  you would probs need two second hand tyres for each new one,add to that the cost of fitting and iit would probs be more expensive........i used fwr in london ;)

5827
FZS600 Fazer / Re: stuttering fzs 600
« on: 14 September 2012, 07:50:19 am »
no time to play last night as working late,busy today aswell and i think iam working this weekend too  :\ .....nice to have the work.....but i want to sort the 600 aswell  :\ :\ :\ :\ :\

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Introduction / Re: Hi from ex bandit rider!
« on: 13 September 2012, 09:17:17 pm »
ah yes.......we are a tight bunch of foccers  ;)

5829
General / Re: Id rather be 30mins late in this world............
« on: 13 September 2012, 12:27:51 pm »
BMW........................say no more  ;)

5830
FZS600 Fazer / Re: suspention
« on: 13 September 2012, 11:54:19 am »
noooooooooooooooooo :eek ......what springs did you use  ;)

5831
FZS600 Fazer / Re: stuttering fzs 600
« on: 13 September 2012, 08:15:34 am »
Quote from: Dead Eye on 12 September 2012, 09:52:35 pm
Everybody is probably thinking it, but carbs (and engines in general) are still not fully sussed in my mind. So; the mixture screws increase / decrease the amount of fuel that is being drawn by the carbs (or something to that effect) so wouldn't increasing the jet sizes have the same result as turning the mixture screws out? Of course you are still running a standard can and it shouldn't be necessary but...

My other random thought is, what if fuel pressure is low? Could a half faulty pump or filter be restricting the fuel flow and preventing enough from getting through? It's a bit of a twist on the same theme that has been followed with fuel starvation...

So much has been discussed but its like 20 pages back and I don't want to go re-read this entire thread - it would take all night :P

good point on the fuel pump and filter  ;) ....i bench tested the pump and all seamed fine :D  could change when its under pressure though  :\ .....filter was clear and again seamed fine.but as they are cheap will probs replace  :)

5832
FZS600 Fazer / Re: stuttering fzs 600
« on: 13 September 2012, 08:11:56 am »
Quote from: CRH on 12 September 2012, 09:10:16 pm
dont you think it may be better running it up to temp b4 u set mixture?...i would have thought that just might make a diff?

yes ......did that crh........adjusting the mixture with the engine hot and running is no fun  :eek :eek

5833
Introduction / Re: what now
« on: 13 September 2012, 06:45:34 am »
cat c is just light damage,usually paint and plastics,it should state this on your log book,previous owner should have mentioned this to you at point of sale  :rolleyes  have you had the bike long  ;)

5834
FZS600 Fazer / Re: stuttering fzs 600
« on: 12 September 2012, 09:02:34 pm »
no,not good.....not standard........i`ll carry on with the other cylinders and see what happens on the test ride  ;)

5835
FZS600 Fazer / Re: stuttering fzs 600
« on: 12 September 2012, 07:46:34 pm »
straight out to the garage tonight,no slouching on the sofa  :rolleyes ....fitted the k+n air filter :)  an excellent fit,very snug around the top rim  ;)  the old filter had a good 6mm gap and relied on the top cover to hold it in place  :rolleyes  (its a pattern filter about £23 i think)
 took no4 plug out and fitted the colour tune.....start the old girl up and i can see straight away shes running weak ;) [size=78%],blue flame , what i was expecting,mixture is set to 2.5 turns so turn the mixture screw anti-clockwise (out) until i get blue/yellow flame,edging towards yellow as the fazer is designed to run rich[/size] :) ........before i started adjusting the mixture they were set at 4 turns out and had been like that for 30,000 miles with no problems.......now  with the colour tune and k+n filter.....................5 turns out  :eek :eek
 need to set the other cylinders now and then test ride...work permitting  :rolleyes

5836
FZS600 Fazer / Re: Starting issues - help!
« on: 12 September 2012, 07:30:09 pm »
ah.....armed and dangerous  :eek .......as above ,charge the battery and see how you go  ;)

5837
General / Re: CALLING ALL WELSH BIKERS!!!!!
« on: 12 September 2012, 07:26:32 pm »
that sounds great  :D ....wish i was a bit closer  :\

5838
General / Re: BUS v cage!!!!!!!!
« on: 12 September 2012, 07:24:18 pm »
as above mate  :\  speedy recovery to your better half.......my guess is 50/50......bus driver has already said he flashed his lights.....at his friend  :rolleyes ....your better half seeing this thinks thats the signal to pull out....which most people would think  :\


flashing of lights is same as horn in highway code....to let other road users know that you are there....dont think that includes your friends  :rolleyes .....good luck with your claim

5839
FZS600 Fazer / Re: stuttering fzs 600
« on: 12 September 2012, 12:29:59 pm »
hard day at work yesterday  :\  got in at 6 had dinner and thought i would watch the news before fettling the fazer  ;) .......................woke up at 9 .45  :o :o .......will try again tonight  :)

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: stuttering fzs 600
« on: 11 September 2012, 05:22:30 pm »
Quote from: CRH on 11 September 2012, 05:07:14 pm
Quote from: red98 on 11 September 2012, 03:23:23 pm
afternoon all you young foccrs :) .....iam i the oldest foccer in town ?
 k+n filter arrived yesterday and looks fantastic  :D  will fit tonight and have a play with the colour tune  ;)
 
 
in the meantime  ;) ,all you foccers out there start thinking about what iam going to do next if this fails, as i think iam now out of ideas  :\
.....buy a ..GOOD one of me boyfriend! :b ....dont worry ime sure it will be fine!!!...got to prove ATB wrong else never live it down :'( ......ps... suzuki bandits are cheap? :rolleyes ...and remember this?...you only as old as you look!!

oh no.....could never have a bum bandit  :eek ......stick with what i`ve got  ;) .........."only as old as you look"......now i am i trouble  :\ :\ :\

5841
FZS600 Fazer / Re: stuttering fzs 600
« on: 11 September 2012, 03:23:23 pm »
afternoon all you young foccrs :) .....iam i the oldest foccer in town ?
 k+n filter arrived yesterday and looks fantastic  :D  will fit tonight and have a play with the colour tune  ;)
 
 
in the meantime  ;) ,all you foccers out there start thinking about what iam going to do next if this fails, as i think iam now out of ideas  :\

5842
Introduction / Re: new on here
« on: 11 September 2012, 06:44:13 am »
try and stay on this one ;) .............not far from you in high wycombe but not keen on falling off  :rolleyes :rolleyes

5843
FZS600 Fazer / Re: NO DRIVE
« on: 10 September 2012, 06:57:23 am »
Quote from: Jimmygixxer on 09 September 2012, 11:20:30 pm
Happy days, found the problem  :D
The cable adjustment at the sprocket cover was too tight, so the push rod wasn't allowing the clutch to fully engage as it was not returning far enough back for the clutch plates to make a strong contact.
It's always the simple things  :o
Cheers all.


well done matey.........enjoy whats left of the summer ;)

5844
FZS600 Fazer / Re: Rear Shocker
« on: 09 September 2012, 08:26:12 pm »
have you checked your tyre pressures  ;)

5845
FZS600 Fazer / Re: NO DRIVE
« on: 09 September 2012, 07:23:26 am »
pain in the bum i know :\ .......................but must be the cable,go back and re-check  ;) 

5846
FZS600 Fazer / Re: stuttering fzs 600
« on: 09 September 2012, 07:21:34 am »
Quote from: ade the blade on 08 September 2012, 11:54:50 pm
Quote from: Dead Eye on 08 September 2012, 11:50:52 pm
Quote from: ade the blade on 07 September 2012, 01:41:08 pm
Quote from: Dead Eye on 06 September 2012, 11:50:03 pm
You know, a pub meet might not be a bad idea, should be a good laugh - probably have to do it somewhere quiet and out of the way so as to reduce the likelihood of the locals calling the authorities to throw some of you lot in the looney bin ;) ... you know who you are...
as long as it doesn`t have low beams............these slingbacks jack me up at least 6" :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin  oh just noticed...HAPPY BURFDAY RED :guitar :guitar didn`t realise you had a good 30 yrs on me !

Happy belated Birthday :P Did I miss the cake?

Is it also rude to point out that you are in fact 28 years older than me - I like being the young one ^^
quite right mate......us sub-30 yr olds must stick together. oh and yes the cake was a bit on the chewy side........sure it had a jam and air filter filling  :lol :lol :lol :lol






SUB 30.......................... :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes

5847
FZS600 Fazer / Re: stuttering fzs 600
« on: 09 September 2012, 07:20:14 am »
Quote from: Dead Eye on 08 September 2012, 11:50:52 pm
Quote from: ade the blade on 07 September 2012, 01:41:08 pm
Quote from: Dead Eye on 06 September 2012, 11:50:03 pm
You know, a pub meet might not be a bad idea, should be a good laugh - probably have to do it somewhere quiet and out of the way so as to reduce the likelihood of the locals calling the authorities to throw some of you lot in the looney bin ;) ... you know who you are...
as long as it doesn`t have low beams............these slingbacks jack me up at least 6" :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin  oh just noticed...HAPPY BURFDAY RED :guitar :guitar didn`t realise you had a good 30 yrs on me !

Happy belated Birthday :P Did I miss the cake?

Is it also rude to point out that you are in fact 28 years older than me - I like being the young one ^^


cheers mate :D [size=78%]........had problem with cake and fire brigade [/size] :o :o :o :o :o

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: stuttering fzs 600
« on: 08 September 2012, 10:24:53 pm »
its a crazy world  :rolleyes .....would be very frustrating if i fix the stutter but dont know the reason  :\ ......bit like you re-jetting ade  ;) .........think iam getting close now :)

5849
FZS600 Fazer / Re: stuttering fzs 600
« on: 08 September 2012, 09:56:05 pm »
Quote from: CRH on 08 September 2012, 04:25:00 pm
them readings are pretty good matey!!...nice and even!...right?..told paul you going to use a colour tune?..and he said if you do use one?..(he wouldnt by the way)....to err on the side of rich?..as the fazer motor is designed to run with a richer mixture than most!! he also says that using the colour they show tends to make bike engines run very weak?...and you may experience pinking when you give it some?...he said tend to aim for blue to orange , more the latter!!...specialy as your about to fit a k&N...




thanks crh....top man ;) .....main reason for using colour tune is to see the difference between 2.5 turns and 4 turns  ;)
will set to over rich which i think will be somewhere near 4 turns but i dont know why :rolleyes [size=78%],will wait untill i have the k+n [/size] :D
pleased with the compression figures :D [size=78%] thats going to make it run a lot smoother and a bit more power[/size] ;)

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: stuttering fzs 600
« on: 08 September 2012, 09:47:04 pm »
Quote from: red98 on 08 September 2012, 02:56:59 pm
Quote from: red98 on 12 August 2012, 03:06:52 pm
at last back on my 600 fazer problem.....CRH has helped me out with a long list of possible solutions after quizing a mechanic friend....so my thanks go to both of you  :D ......top of the list....BENT VALVE.....so ive done another compression test
 
                                                             cylinder 1...................140 psi
                                                             cylinder 2.....................85 psi
                                                             cylinder 3.....................61 psi
                                                             cylinder 4...................143 psi


these are average figures as i did the test four times,should be about 160/170 psi ,with 40,000 miles on the clock i was not expecting top pressure, within 10% and i would of been happy,the low readings on cyl 2 + 3 has got me thinking  :eek


i then disconnected the plug caps in turn to see what these figures mead in real terms....


                                 disconnect plug lead no 1...............little bit flat but idles
                                 disconnect plug lead no 2...............flat but wont idle
                                 disconnect plug lead no 3...............little bit flat but idles
                                 disconnect plug lead no 4...............little bit flat but idles
                                 disconnect plug leads 2 + 3............flat but just about idles
                                 disconnect plug leads 1 +4.............wont start


so iam now thinking HEAD GASKET blown between cylinders 2 and 3  ;)  the bike runs fine between 4/8000rpm so parhaps the pressure of the 2 cylinders is masking the damaged gasket at mid range but at higher rpm the pressure is too great and the stutter returns  ;) ;) ......sounds a bit mad...but could be  :D
[size=78%]   i might take the head off and have a look,i can check the valves at the same time and regrind the seats to make it worth while [/size]


good afternoon chaps.........working today but had extended lunch break and done another compression test  :D




                                                                          1          2          3          4


results before valve re-grind                           140       85         61       143


results after valve re-grind                              137      134      132       136


happy with those results  :D  shame i lost a few psi`s on 1 and 4  :o  but figures very close now  :D
still waiting for air filter ,probs be mon or tues now  ;)

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