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General / Re: Thundercat
« on: 19 August 2018, 11:15:30 PM »
A Thundercat is an awesome bike. I sold mine to buy my Fz1 but purely because I wanted something newer and with a bigger engine.
They are very large for a 600 which I found to be a good thing, plenty of wind protection and not too much of a severe seating position, the clip ons are above the top yoke so your only lent forward slightly (compared to modern sport bikes anyway)
The power is all there if you want to play, 100bhp when new and i can personally asure you they do over 140mph (if thats you thing)
Under seat storage is decent, pillion carrying is alright providing you have a sorted shock.

Only downside to them is their age, lot have been used and abused, "modded" with shit parts or just generally run into the ground. Also servicing ext is a bit of a faff as the old fashioned sports fairing is put on in about 900 pieces so you need a good 20 minutes of stripping down just to get to the oil filter

Running costs are next to nothing even my insurance was dirt cheap as the insurance company didn't class it as a supersport (because of the r6 being the same year) so that was a bonus.

All in all I don't think you'd go wrong with a decent one. I personally plan on buying another when I have the space and using it for trackdays and general hooning

General / Re: Historic Vehicle MOT Exemption
« on: 19 August 2018, 05:49:13 PM »
So the theory is people with old cars look after them better? How's that worked out?
 I look after my bike diligently,  a hell of a lot more than most people with their cars... so why should I have to have a M.O.T? And by that measure should people who don't look after their vehicles have to have 2 per year?
Just make it up as they go along these bureaucrats

General / Re: Three word story
« on: 18 August 2018, 01:38:15 PM »
Thank you mam

Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Gen 2 fuel bar guage!!
« on: 16 August 2018, 04:54:29 PM »
Is there any way to improve this apart from riding like an old biddy??
Buy a Gen 1  :lol :lol :lol

He said ride LIKE an old biddy......... not that he wanted a ride ON an old biddy 😘😋

General / Re: Whoever Posts Last is Best
« on: 16 August 2018, 04:52:16 PM »

Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Gen 2 fuel bar guage!!
« on: 16 August 2018, 11:56:13 AM »
Not really, Its a 150bhp detuned R1 hoon machine.... fuel consumption isn't its main feature haha

Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Gen 2 fuel bar guage!!
« on: 16 August 2018, 11:39:10 AM »
No that sounds about normal haha mine only get around 100miles to a full tank.
The fuel gauge is a little slow though so give it a mile or so before it gives a true reading

Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Gen 2 mods??
« on: 16 August 2018, 09:21:12 AM »
A reflash will set you back around £350 but from all accounts your bike will run perfect from then on.
Why is this so expensive and why cant it be done with a laptop..? or failing that cant a 2007 ECU be sourced from the eBay / part-finder for less than that..?

It technically could be done with a laptop and the right software but you'd be stabbing in the dark without the dyno runs to give you the right feedback. It'd be like doing a custom power commander map yourself.... but a lot more dangerous for the bike.

It's more than just fixing the on/off fuel problem; the ecu controls everything so you can find tune every aspect of the bikes running.
Remove gear limiters, fine tune fuelling (without a pc3 or pc5), advance the timing, lower the fan temp etc
There's a lot to it and it's done wrong it can completely destroy your engine.

As for fitting a later ecu, a few people fitted the 2010 as that apparently has the best Yamaha map on it; I think it doesn't help the fuel problem but not as much as a custom flash would.
I also don't know how it works with regard to the immobilizer etc because I may be wrong but I think your key is coded to the ecu?

Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Gen 2 mods??
« on: 16 August 2018, 12:10:26 AM »
To be honest anything more than the exhaust change and you'll need to start looking at a power commander. Even then all it will do is ensure the air to fuel ratio is good and help smooth the power out a little.

As for the on/off throttle response, the only way to fix that is an ecu reflash. You have the 2006 model which has the famously jerky throttle response :-( they greatly improved it in the 2007 onwards models.
A reflash will set you back around £350 but from all accounts your bike will run perfect from then on.

You could try and find an Ivans fuel cut eliminator but again the reviews of them seem to vary.

If you do decide to go down the tuning route then obviously the more mods you do the better. So the lars airbox mod is great (and free), the secondary flies can be either removed or cable tied open (again free) and the decat (If not already done) can be drilled and smashed out.... for free
Race downpipes are about the costliest part and they aren't completely necessary but will add an extra few bhp
 So not an expensive do and when you factor in the price of a power commander plus dyno runs then the ecu flash seems like a much better deal.

General / Re: Something broke...
« on: 15 August 2018, 10:20:09 PM »
Could be miles off the mark here but wouldn't one of the r1 engines go in?

Technically with enough effort and faffing you could fit any engine you liked into it but I would imagine it's a lot more hassle than its worth. It's cost 1200 quid to fit it's original engine back in so I can only imagine the cost of modification, replacement parts etc needed to fit a different engine.
It's would almost definitely be more cost efficient to just buy a faster bike..... if that's what the end goal was

General / Re: Honda Fireblade
« on: 10 August 2018, 10:42:33 PM »
Just read in your for sale post that you've crashed the Blade??
What happened? Have either of you sustained lasting damage?
Hope your alright 🍺

Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Looking for a black radiator cover
« on: 08 August 2018, 02:22:07 PM »
I've got a black one for my Gen2. I got it from R&G on eBay but I guess you could try contacting them directly and seeing if they do one for the Gen1?

Other than that you could buy a shiny one and have it powdercoated?

Events, Meets, Ride outs etc / Willingham woods
« on: 08 August 2018, 02:17:06 PM »
Any foccers ever attend the Wednesday night bike meets at the woods?
I occasionally go, will be there tonight for a bit

General / Re: Probably a silly question.....
« on: 07 August 2018, 09:36:26 AM »
Regarding the Pipercross air filters, it depends on how much use the bike gets. I clean and re-oil mine roughly every 18 months, but don't use the bike in winter. Pipercross do a dedicated maintenance kit which is quite reasonable, and straightforward to use.

Yeah I have the maintenance kit and use it yearly 👍 I was just wondering when you know it needs replacing.
 On old bikes I've just had standard filters that I have replaced every service

General / Re: Probably a silly question.....
« on: 06 August 2018, 10:47:15 PM »
Thanks C-Dog, ive gone with the semi so will be service time on my next day off.

Along them lines.... does anyone know roughly how long the washable air filters are meant to last? I've got a pipercross on there that was on when I got the bike 2 years ago, do they last indefinitely or do they still need to be replaced every now and again?

Introduction / Re: Uum Hi!!
« on: 06 August 2018, 10:40:44 PM »
Welcome, I don't think you'll be disappointed. You can still be very much a yobbo on an fz1, but at the same time you can use it to ride at legal speeds in relative comfort.
Are you getting the faired or naked version?

General / Probably a silly question.....
« on: 05 August 2018, 11:33:45 AM »
Is it alright to mix fully synth and semi synth oils?

Both are Castrol Power 1, one is the racing and the other is standard.

I only ask as my local auto store has got an offer on the semi where you get 5 litres for the price of 4 and I already have 1 litre of fully synth in the garage, (as well as an engine fully of it)
Just thinking I can use the remaining 1 litre of fully synth mixed with 2 litres of semi and I'll still have 3 litres of it left for the next oil change?

General / Re: Three word story
« on: 03 August 2018, 08:59:34 PM »
Smelly little arsehole

General / Re: Three word story
« on: 03 August 2018, 08:10:34 AM »
That was filled

General / Re: How much does a Fazer engine weigh?
« on: 01 August 2018, 09:30:21 PM »

Accounting for the pallet... about 120lb (54kg)

Not an enormous weight (depending how big of a guy you are) but awkward as hell to carry as the weight isn't all in one area.
I'd be inclined to get a mate to come pick it up you, stick with a few blankets in their boot and you should be alright

Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Upgrade to fuel injection
« on: 29 July 2018, 06:22:52 PM »

Aren't those charts for an FZ-1, not a Gen 1 ?

No the Yanks call the fzs1000 the Fz-1
You can't ivanise fuel injected bikes 😉

General / Re: Three word story
« on: 28 July 2018, 08:49:29 PM »
To the very

Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Hel brake lines
« on: 28 July 2018, 01:16:05 PM »
Just use either some electrical wire or even just some string, tie it around the master cylinder then run it through the front of the bike, down to the caliper and cut it. Then you'll be able to measure that bit of string/wire and known exactly how long you'll need and be able to ask HEL to make you custom ones.
Just make sure you run it the same route as the original hoses and factor in turning the bars from full lock to full lock etc

General / Re: what did you do with your fazer today ?
« on: 27 July 2018, 09:41:38 AM »

I've always used the premium stuff but the last garage I stopped at wasn't that fancy so I had to settle for standard 97.
I thought that standard was 95

Premium at my local garage is 99 apparently? That's what it says on the pump anyway

Not sure why anyone would buy an FZ1 gen2 if they worried about mpg and tank range. It's a tool for hooligans to enjoy when they can no longer fit a sports bike cramped riding position, for what ever reason.

I'm not fussed about not at all. I actually actively reduced it with the current fuel map haha I was just impressed it had managed over 100 miles to a tank for the first time in my ownership, especially as many seem to be able to get 130-150 out of their gen 2s

General / Re: what did you do with your fazer today ?
« on: 26 July 2018, 05:54:53 PM »
Beat my fuel record. Managed to get a whopping 120miles out of a tank!! That's 20 miles more than previously achieved and the best part.... it was the first time I'd put 'regular' fuel in?
I've always used the premium stuff but the last garage I stopped at wasn't that fancy so I had to settle for standard 97. My bike clearly didn't like the taste so barely used any, such a diva.

Might have to do a tour of Europe now I know I have the range 🤔😏

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