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« on: 22 June 2020, 12:34:39 pm »
I have been given a 20 year old Raligh prestige pioneer bike never used since brought, needs new  tyres and tubes the size is 28x 15/8 x 13/8 (700 x 35c ) the valve is a presta.

 I am looking for the cheapest tyres I can find but dont want to end up with total useless rubbish that constantly picks up punctures or somthing. When I look on Halfords for 700x35C tubes I get a shreader valve hit for that size but for a presta valve I get 38-45c. The valve in it at the moment is a presta so I am guessing that the wheel is too thin to fit a shreader ? And will the 38-45c fit.
It may help to explain the riding I will be doing, mainly hard cycle paths (tarmac ), canal tracks a little road.

Any help and advice appreciated.
 
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« Reply #1 on: 22 June 2020, 01:05:17 pm »
I went with Schwalbe Road cruisers Schwalbe SCH6029 Road Cruiser Tyre - Black, 700 x 35 C https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000UJB46U/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_g3j8EbSXWY7V7

But note I paid £11.99 last year and the price on Amazon is a bit silly now. 700 tubes with presta valves. No punctures so far and I’ve probably done 500 miles +

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« Reply #2 on: 22 June 2020, 01:09:34 pm »
I bought those same tyres about 4 weeks ago from Halfords. They were £9.95 then, but they're listed at £12 now. Seem OK, but I've only done about 6 road miles since fitting them.

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« Reply #3 on: 22 June 2020, 01:25:46 pm »
Thanks both.
I can only find "land crusier"  on Halfords at £12 and not   Road Cruiser. Looking around I get the impression my size is not a common size ?.
And what about folding tyres - any pifalls in buying that sort,
Found this set on ebay https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Schwalbe-Road-Cruiser-700-x-40c-Black-Tyres-With-Or-Without-Tubes/333256258751?var=542269517339&hash=item4d979ef4bf:g:NzIAAOSwFsBdHSHE buts says 700x40c - will they fit my rims as the OEM tyres are 700x35c
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« Reply #4 on: 22 June 2020, 01:58:13 pm »

Sorry my mistake, they were Land Cruisers that I bought for £9.95.


They were for an old hybrid type bike (part town bike/part mountain bike) so appropriate for that use. They're still less knobbly than the originals they replaced though.

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« Reply #5 on: 22 June 2020, 02:00:19 pm »
Should be fine. The 35/40 is the width and mine fit with plenty of space.

The road cruisers seem a good compromise between road and trail use and don’t make much noise like mountain bike tyres. With my old tyres I kept getting punctures but these have K-Guard which is meant to be a bit tougher.

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« Reply #6 on: 22 June 2020, 02:06:52 pm »
Here’s the tread on the road cruiser.

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« Reply #7 on: 22 June 2020, 03:43:53 pm »
just looked at the rims and it says alesa alloy 317-700c and also etro  622x17 whats all that mean. the tyres say 700x35c.
also 3 times now the gov has anounced the fix your bike £50 voucher comming in june but no one (google search ) seems to know anything about it. I see some chatter on proper full-on bike "fanitics forums with their £1000 bikes and they seem to think they can have one. Its not going to be for them is it - its for the likes of me to get your old bike from the shead back on the road - not for them to buy the latest bling for their £1000 bike.
But how is it going to be delivered so its claimed and used properly. ?
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« Reply #8 on: 22 June 2020, 05:00:10 pm »
also 3 times now the gov has anounced the fix your bike £50 voucher comming in june but no one (google search ) seems to know anything about it.


Probably gone the same way as, the laptops of under privileged kids and student nurses contracts to name but a few  :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin [size=78%] [/size]
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« Reply #9 on: 22 June 2020, 05:32:56 pm »
also 3 times now the gov has anounced the fix your bike £50 voucher comming in june but no one (google search ) seems to know anything about it.


Probably gone the same way as, the laptops of under privileged kids and student nurses contracts to name but a few  :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin [size=78%] [/size]
I will allow you that one but otherwise-- don't start with your shit on my thread.
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« Reply #10 on: 22 June 2020, 06:21:46 pm »
also 3 times now the gov has anounced the fix your bike £50 voucher comming in june but no one (google search ) seems to know anything about it.


Probably gone the same way as, the laptops of under privileged kids and student nurses contracts to name but a few  :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
I will allow you that one but otherwise-- don't start with your shit on my thread.


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« Reply #11 on: 22 June 2020, 06:29:04 pm »
700 would be the approximate outer diameter of the tyre and 35 is the width.

The 622 is the actual  bead diameter in mm, think of this as your 17" wheel.

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« Reply #12 on: 22 June 2020, 07:20:32 pm »
Actually just found this today ( think the gov was listening to me ) https://www.gov.uk/guidance/fix-your-bike-voucher-scheme-register-as-a-bike-repairer
Got a feeling that it wont be worth waiting just for two tyres and tubes because most of that £50 will be taken up with labour  :rolleyes
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« Reply #13 on: 22 June 2020, 07:22:54 pm »
I took the tube out and it has on it 35/38/40-622 and 700x 35/38/40c
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« Reply #14 on: 22 June 2020, 08:31:22 pm »
I use Schwalbe tyres on my bicycle (Dawes Ultra racing bike) because they have a strip of "puncture proof" (or, at least, puncture resistant) material down the inside of the tyres.

So far, since putting them on a couple of years ago I haven't (yet, tempting fate!) had a puncture :thumbup

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« Reply #15 on: 22 June 2020, 10:04:58 pm »
I really only mentioned puncture through lack of thinking of anything else that may separate a very cheap tyre compared to a more expensive one.
I also have an 80s halfords fold up bike that I am getting back on the road 20 x 1 3/8   
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« Reply #16 on: 23 June 2020, 11:53:47 am »
I really only mentioned puncture through lack of thinking of anything else that may separate a very cheap tyre compared to a more expensive one.
I also have an 80s halfords fold up bike that I am getting back on the road 20 x 1 3/8


As it goes got a pair of tyres for the Mrs bike yesterday, cycle tyres sizes are a real faff are they not :rolleyes

This may be of help https://www.cyclinguk.org/cyclists-library/components/wheels-tyres/tyre-sizes although it's not complete I couldn't find tyres I was looking for on it  :rolleyes 

This explains how all the different sizes work https://www.evanscycles.com/coffeestop/advice/beginners-guide-to-wheel-sizing-and-measurements
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« Reply #17 on: 23 June 2020, 12:42:03 pm »
I really only mentioned puncture through lack of thinking of anything else that may separate a very cheap tyre compared to a more expensive one.
I also have an 80s halfords fold up bike that I am getting back on the road 20 x 1 3/8


As it goes got a pair of tyres for the Mrs bike yesterday, cycle tyres sizes are a real faff are they not :rolleyes

This may be of help https://www.cyclinguk.org/cyclists-library/components/wheels-tyres/tyre-sizes although it's not complete I couldn't find tyres I was looking for on it  :rolleyes 

This explains how all the different sizes work https://www.evanscycles.com/coffeestop/advice/beginners-guide-to-wheel-sizing-and-measurements
Thanks for the info. What I am realising is how much bike stuff costs these days  :eek not brought any bits for about 15 years.
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« Reply #18 on: 23 June 2020, 12:45:57 pm »
Thanks for the info. What I am realising is how much bike stuff costs these days  :eek not brought any bits for about 15 years.


It's bloody expensive, paid almost £45 for a pair of tyres  :rolleyes
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« Reply #19 on: 24 June 2020, 10:31:14 pm »
Another question, the old gold up has a 3 speed sturmey archer hub gear and it has a cap so you can add oil, would car gear oil be ok as I already have that for living the  :faz chain. Or would 3 in 1 oil be better.
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« Reply #20 on: 25 June 2020, 11:03:54 am »
Mate I use oil engine oil on my chain have done for years :)
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« Reply #21 on: 25 June 2020, 11:11:26 am »
Another question, the old gold up has a 3 speed sturmey archer hub gear and it has a cap so you can add oil, would car gear oil be ok as I already have that for living the  :faz chain. Or would 3 in 1 oil be better.
Go with engine oil or 3in1. Car gear oil is REALLY thick.
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« Reply #22 on: 25 June 2020, 11:31:10 am »
Mate I use oil engine oil on my chain have done for years :)
Yep we have had those big debates on here on other threads.
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« Reply #23 on: 25 June 2020, 11:33:30 am »
Another question, the old gold up has a 3 speed sturmey archer hub gear and it has a cap so you can add oil, would car gear oil be ok as I already have that for living the  :faz chain. Or would 3 in 1 oil be better.
Go with engine oil or 3in1. Car gear oil is REALLY thick.
Ok, but I dont think gear oil is all that thick actually, and then 3 in one is dead thin, might have some engine oil left over from my last bike change.
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« Reply #24 on: 25 June 2020, 11:36:16 am »

+1 for the 3in1 oil. I used that for years on Sturmey Archer hub gears with no problems at all. Just the right viscosity I'd say and easy to apply through the lubricating orifice ( :lol ) with the can nozzle tip.


You're lucky it's the 3 speed hub and not the 5 speed. 3 speed was superb, but 5 speed best avoided imho.