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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Chain lube
« on: 11 December 2017, 11:18:23 PM »
yeah im sure its a 15t oem so adding one to the front is like taking 3 from the rear (the general consensus) so you will loose a bit of acceleration and gain top end speed - or more likely just reduce rpm for long motorway runs
i think its about 110 links but that is a number that just popped into my head so could be out

(i used to have a second set of sprockets just for my long runs on my old bike and it can make a suprising difference for motorway miles but im talking 300+ miles each way as cumbria to london and norfolk was very common for work)


edit - man drawer in shed????, isnt a shed a man zone and might get a womans drawer??

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he has been pushing it home for the last 4 days - suddenly that long distance rideout was a bad idea

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Starting/Running Issues
« on: 07 December 2017, 10:46:49 PM »
why did i not think to look at the pic that stares me in the face everytime i look at this post lol
yeah that is a hole hole not a drain hole - assuming you put the red circle in the right place and not trying to mess with our heads
bit of gun gum should solve a little problem there - no point paying a guy to weld up a hole on an exhaust that is hitting the end of its life
but as fazerider just pointed out - it aint your running issue as i have run with no pipe at all without a problem
(apart from deafness - I SAID APART FROM DEAFNESS)

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Starting/Running Issues
« on: 07 December 2017, 08:16:52 PM »
when you say small hole at base of exhaust - do you have the factory exhaust on there and do you mean at the lowest/most forward part of the silencer - i think that one is meant to be there for drainage - i noticed that hole once i realized how fucked the insides were as i was getting a lot of escaping gasses through it

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i find it brilliant how it instantly comes to buying a new part and not the free stuff first - its even possible to test the reg rec instead of just replacing it
ooh it had a battery drop it must be the reg rec broken - NO because the chances are the test was done top side of the battery terminals so a voltage drop can show from a bad earth or positive connection due to corrosion, or a bad connection on the reg rec connections that a a quick pull apart and clean could sort in seconds
maybe more people need to be skin flints first then waste money later lol

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Starting/Running Issues
« on: 06 December 2017, 10:55:04 PM »
you did say earlier that you cleaned your air filter with compressed air
although it will look cleanish they never are as all the open cells fill with microscopic dirt that clings like a mutha and obstruct flow
always worth the £10 for a replacement if your in there (if you go K+N thats up to you but will set you back more)


looking at the pic i dont think thats a coilpack mod as the wire thickness still looks HT size - but they do look a bit different from a standard setup




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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Starting/Running Issues
« on: 06 December 2017, 10:05:58 PM »
was it definatly the engine you could hear turning or just the starter motor ???

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Chain lube
« on: 06 December 2017, 03:08:37 PM »


I agree about it not being a real concern with very low mileages being done, and, to be honest I am not relying on the bike as everyday transport. (Summer Fun)


I clean my bike each time i ride it unless I'm going out on it again the following day, I do it to get the dead bodies off the screen, headlamps and fairing, the baked flies and bugs off the exhaust headers and radiator guard.


Don't say it! I know get a foccing life, but as Darrsi said in an earlier comment, half the fun of owning a bike is the fettling with it.
Well it is for me anyhoo  :rolleyes


not just fettling by the sounds of it, replacing fairings and dodging police because of all the people you have riden into hard enough for there lifeless bodys to stick to the fairing

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Chain lube
« on: 06 December 2017, 09:35:40 AM »
Tommy when you enter that shed the mrs ardin aint sleeping - she gets out her other lubrication device lol


after this weekends dirty ride (not mrs ardin) i too have a session of cleaning the bike and lubing up the spinning thing (that IS mrs ardin)
good old lubricant will do it fine (wont make a joke here)


taking your time to look after a bike is all part and parcel of ownership
similar to being married to mrs ardin

(tommy - i wrote this hoping you would see the funny side if she reads this i hope she thinks i am your alter ego and it is all you)
(foc-u ban is expected in the inbox within 24hours)

Yeah maybe she has one of those Twot Oilers I have often wonder what the cable ties on her thigh were for and the mess all over her rear end.


 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Chain lube
« on: 06 December 2017, 09:06:52 AM »
still in garage after cleaning bike and giving the chain a clean -
hit it with pressure washer (divided opinions on such things)
gave it a spray with brake cleaner
sprayed again with jet wash (it was still out)
wd40 on chain
wheeled into garage as it was starting to rain then had a cuppa
coated nicely in rock oil chain lube (must have got it from ebay)
will wipe off the excess later before i go out to minimise fling

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: WTB belly pan
« on: 06 December 2017, 03:28:15 AM »
im on a 2000 silver and i found a good match with ford moondust silver from halfords
as with most stuff i did a video

so if your worried about getting the right paint thats the closest i know anyone to find without paying silly money

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Chain lube
« on: 06 December 2017, 03:07:27 AM »
Tommy when you enter that shed the mrs ardin aint sleeping - she gets out her other lubrication device lol


after this weekends dirty ride (not mrs ardin) i too have a session of cleaning the bike and lubing up the spinning thing (that IS mrs ardin)
good old lubricant will do it fine (wont make a joke here)


taking your time to look after a bike is all part and parcel of ownership
similar to being married to mrs ardin

(tommy - i wrote this hoping you would see the funny side if she reads this i hope she thinks i am your alter ego and it is all you)
(foc-u ban is expected in the inbox within 24hours)

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Chain lube
« on: 06 December 2017, 12:05:08 AM »
why would you want to use any kind of engine oil that has a high fling rate
half of what is involved in chain lube is its stiction  so it doesnt just fling away on your first ride
good tin of chain lube about £10 and is made for the job and has no acidic property's like the old oil technique
really old motorbike chains in a hot oil can loosen them off but we dont do that for everyday chains.
give your chain a proper clean then a spray (another good point) then if excess give them a wipe on the surface
as for which is best - than is personal preferance as everyday riders will use more so want to spend less and do it more


i just did a video about a useless chain oiling tool and said scott oilers have there places but really are not needed so took mine off
proper cleaning and lubing is the best way to get the most life from your chain - there are no shortcuts - there was but we have already taken them




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FZS600 Fazer / Re: 1999 fzs 600, is it fitted with immobiliser?
« on: 03 December 2017, 11:21:12 AM »
keyless ignition
hold a little fob against a hidden device (behind a panel) and ignition comes on
may sound a little show off but it increases security (no barrel to screwdriver)
and it gets rid of that god awfull barrel from the headstock which gets in the way when you have gone naked or fork swapped


https://motogadget.com/shop/de/m-lock-rfid-zundschloss.html?___from_store=en

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: 1999 fzs 600, is it fitted with immobiliser?
« on: 03 December 2017, 03:06:01 AM »
do you have a button to press to disarm an alarm, an imobiliser for a fazer needs a button as we dont have transponder keys like modern cars do


i have a datatool alarm fitted which i have to figure out how to remove before i fit the motogadget basic and RFID unit



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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Cold starting
« on: 02 December 2017, 12:38:50 PM »
ok so definatly sounds fuel related start with taking the pipe off the fuel pump outlet and add a pipe to a jam/coffee jar or just hold a jar there
switch on ignition and see if fuel flows
yes fine = problem is after pump
no or slow = problem is before pump or with pump


before pump - i would look at the fuel filter first, maybe take the fuel pipe from the filter inlet and run it direct to the pump (if problem solved then its the filter so replace asap - DO NOT RUN AROUND FOR A WEEK WITHOUT A FUEL FILTER)
any idea when your filter was replaced last they are only about £8 on ebay so worth replacing anyway


-when the fuel pipe is disconnected from the filter just see what the flow is like direct from the tank if is seems a bit slow it could be a blocked prefilter but this isnt common unless you have a rusty tank - can sometime fix this by blowing up the fuel line but the problem will return so will need to empty the tank remove and give it a good flush (dont do this in winter as it will never dry again wait till summer so it can sit in the sun)


WARNING - the pipe leading from the pump to the carb remove from pump side - the plastic connection carb side is a bit brittle and can break easily - that little bit of plastic is £30, i found out the hard way


i would definatly try and get a dose of redex or preferably marvels mystery oil through the system as is can dislodge little bits that may be sticking but the chances of four float valves sticking at once is slim even in winter (i dont even have the carb heater hoses running through mine)

and darsi just posted a very good point about breather pipes - if thats the problem there are two outlets under the tank add a bit of hose and blow through them - no hose? just wrap you lips around it and blow (as i told the g/f last night) , you will know if its blocked

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sounds like something that hapened to my old honda
turned out to be corroded battery terminals a quick clean and all ran well again
(was thankfull as i was stuck in the middle of nowhere)

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Replacing Rear brake disc
« on: 29 November 2017, 03:59:47 PM »
its another one of those tools i have been meaning to buy for ages but when i need one i find another way (cant wait for delivery)
and then i forget about buying one untill i next need one and the cycle repeats itself
getting 5 out of six easily out definatly says its worth having one for that job though considering the problems others are having

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Replacing Rear brake disc
« on: 29 November 2017, 02:58:51 PM »
just wondering if anyone has had success using a manual impact driver on these
i.e the one you hit with a hammer not the 'Buzz gun'
as it is a hammer thump and a turn in one where a buzz gun is more just rotational whacks?
just a thought

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Replacing Rear brake disc
« on: 27 November 2017, 09:42:47 PM »
if i ever buy another blow torch i will buy the one with the piezo igniter cause sods law the moment you need it you wont find a lighter
-and when you turn to the backup matchsticks that have sat in the drawer for 3 years you realise they got damp and wont light

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Idea's on what engines will fit in the fzs600 (2001)
« on: 25 November 2017, 02:11:52 PM »
I've decided to just stick with the 600 lump :) But just one more question does any one roughly know the amount of hours labour that's involved with changing the engine so i can try and work out a rough price of what it'll cost to swap them over.


Cheers :)


if your getting a garage to do it the best bet is to ask them how much directly - if your not in a rush they might have a couple of hours here and there and have it as a sideline and do it at a set price - always budget a little extra though for parts they may need i.e gaskets / oil / filter /plugs / coolant etc - as for how long its not that hard to rip an engine out but i have found the hardest part is getting that bloody airbox in and out (ooh and lifting an engine can be a bastard)

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: What are my rear shock options ?
« on: 23 November 2017, 11:25:04 AM »
there are loads of topics on using the r6 shock using a couple of tophats and new doglegs
search r6 shock in the foc-u search bar and they will pop up

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Loose front right foot peg.
« on: 22 November 2017, 11:15:43 PM »
Thanks Tommy ... will have to consult Mr Haynes’ manual more closely 😉 👍🏻


Your welcome Mjhb, if I can help as I walk life's beaten path. Lol!
Some members in here used to take the piss but thankfully that's been banned. :rollin :rolleyes


There are still a couple of foccers in here to watch out for, but firstly it would be bad etiquette to name them and secondly fazersharp and hedgetrimmer would be cross with me if I named them.


how did the interview at wikileaks go ???

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: FAZER/THUNDERCAT FORKS ??
« on: 21 November 2017, 09:00:53 PM »
dont know exactly but from looking at info in the haynes manual the looks like they are totally different
the spring free length is a good 100mm longer which doesnt necceserily translate over to actuall length
but it does suggest yzf forks are longer which is more likely as doesnt the fzs have clip ons above the top yoke

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Bike doesn't turn on / no lights
« on: 21 November 2017, 01:27:20 AM »
it is just a bodge pure and simple and i love a bodge here and there to work as a fix untill it can be done properly (i use a lot of them)
but that connector block was designed for use in houses and is an unsightly thing on a bike
a OEM connector is often not available and cost a fortune from aftermarket suppliers and i rarely use them
but a crimped bullet/spade connector is the way to go as they are made for vehicles and not your house


[edit] assuming you are meaning the block i pictured - there is nothing wrong with the oem block its unfortunate that yours had a failure that is rare to see

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