Author Topic: Dodgy side stand switch? (Read 6340 times)

Brettholmes89 · « **on:** 24 April 2015, 04:05:47 pm »

After ordering my new speed sensor and being over the moon, I go to tesco this morning, get some cash out, then get back on my bike, side stand up, clutch in, killswitch in the right position, press the button and nothing. Oil light and fuel light come on?
Full tank of fuel, oil level is normal.

Any ideas?

Not sure if it's the side stand switch that's going or what? The switch is going in and out with the stand.

Cheers guys

andybesy · « **Reply #1 on:** 24 April 2015, 04:33:54 pm »

What about in neutral?

Brettholmes89 · « **Reply #2 on:** 24 April 2015, 04:47:43 pm »

Sorry forgot to mention it was also in neutral.

Brettholmes89 · « **Reply #3 on:** 24 April 2015, 05:42:50 pm »

It's just done it again, came out of work, started up, stopped just outside to lock the gate, didn't start, checked the killswitch, neutral, side stand up. Oil light and fuel light!!
I messed with the side stand switch, turned the ignition on and off a couple of times, clutch in and out and it eventually started up, just don't want to have to do that every time. I had to bump it this morning!

crickleymal · « **Reply #4 on:** 24 April 2015, 08:50:24 pm »

Trace the wires from the switch. Eventually they'll reach a plug. Using a paperclip short out the wires to the switch. See if that makes a difference.

slappy · « **Reply #5 on:** 24 April 2015, 09:40:08 pm »

Are you sure its the sidestand switch and not a faulty ignition switch?

sinto · « **Reply #6 on:** 24 April 2015, 10:11:09 pm »

Quote from: slappy on 24 April 2015, 09:40:08 pm

Are you sure its the sidestand switch and not a faulty ignition switch?

If it was ignition switch would you be be getting the lights in dash working, neutral, oil, fuel etc? Just asking.

Brettholmes89 · « **Reply #7 on:** 24 April 2015, 10:16:09 pm »

I suppose I ruled the starter switch out because the switch does make the lights come on, the same way it would if you were to try starting it with the stand down.
I'll try tracing the wires back tomorrow. To be honest I'd rather not have a side stand switch , I always kick it up before I start the engine anyway!

sinto · « **Reply #8 on:** 24 April 2015, 10:25:59 pm »

Could it possibly be just full of gunk etc? Electrical cleaner would help?

slappy · « **Reply #9 on:** 25 April 2015, 09:53:46 am »

I suggested the igntion switch because the problem he is describing are exactly the same as I was having on my gen1 1000. After I spent days checking ,cleaning every connector I could find someone told me to flush out the ignition switch with wd40 and the problem disappeared.
Eventually six months later I had to replace the ignition switch as it was that worn out and no amount of flushing and cleaning helped.

Jules-C · « **Reply #10 on:** 25 April 2015, 10:02:52 am »

If it was the sidestand switch it wouldn't bump start because the ignition unit would cut out if it thinks the sidestand was done and the bike in gear.

My first move would be to clean all the switches and connectors with wd40 or similar and while connectors apart check switchs working with meter

Brettholmes89 · « **Reply #11 on:** 25 April 2015, 12:22:05 pm »

I tried electrical cleaner first off. Slappy, glad I'm not the only one. I will try wd40 on the ignition. By ignition are you meaning the barrel or the start switch? Just want to make sure haha.

Thanks for the help everyone I will update when I know more!

slappy · « **Reply #12 on:** 25 April 2015, 07:46:51 pm »

The barrel, just put loads of wd40 or something similiar in.

Brettholmes89 · « **Reply #13 on:** 25 April 2015, 08:13:08 pm »

Great, will do that tomorrow. Cheers!

Brettholmes89 · « **Reply #14 on:** 28 April 2015, 12:53:57 pm »

Well it's not the ignition switch.
Could it be the clutch switch?its starting to really annoy me now because it's taking 5 minutes before I can start the engine unless I bump it.
Then I don't want to stop in case it doesn't go again!

Alexander · « **Reply #15 on:** 28 April 2015, 02:42:48 pm »

not exactly the same but I had a similar problem,

had to modify my clutch switch when i changed to shorty levers as it wouldn't let it start in gear with the clutch in as pulling the clutch lever in didn't let the switch out.

disconnect the clutch switch and see if makes a different.

Brettholmes89 · « **Reply #16 on:** 28 April 2015, 07:21:04 pm »

If I disconnect the clutch switch will it just act as though it's not there or will it need bridging?
I will try it tomorrow

Jules-C · « **Reply #17 on:** 29 April 2015, 11:38:37 am »

Not checked the wiring diagram but I would expect it to need bridging most cut out devices are set up if the come unplugged the bike won't start

darrsi · « **Reply #18 on:** 29 April 2015, 11:49:30 am »

Quote from: Brettholmes89 on 24 April 2015, 10:16:09 pm

I suppose I ruled the starter switch out because the switch does make the lights come on, the same way it would if you were to try starting it with the stand down.
I'll try tracing the wires back tomorrow. To be honest I'd rather not have a side stand switch , I always kick it up before I start the engine anyway!

"... I always kick it up before I start the engine anyway!..."

Famous last words!!!
Trust me, you need the side stand switch, it's a safety function and there for a very good reason.

Brettholmes89 · « **Reply #19 on:** 29 April 2015, 06:46:04 pm »

Tighter spring so when the bikes lifted upright it shoots back in?

darrsi · « **Reply #20 on:** 29 April 2015, 09:36:47 pm »

Quote from: Brettholmes89 on 29 April 2015, 06:46:04 pm

Tighter spring so when the bikes lifted upright it shoots back in?

That would involve having to keep your foot on the stand when putting it down, which would also involve leaning the bike.
This is not good, honestly.

Brettholmes89 · « **Reply #21 on:** 29 April 2015, 09:40:33 pm »

I did have more on that last post hinting it was a joke but it didn't post.
I had a new key cut today, hasn't done it yet, so we'll see.

darrsi · « **Reply #22 on:** 30 April 2015, 06:36:48 am »

Quote from: Brettholmes89 on 29 April 2015, 09:40:33 pm

I did have more on that last post hinting it was a joke but it didn't post.
I had a new key cut today, hasn't done it yet, so we'll see.

New key won't make any difference?

Can you adjust your profile so we know what year of bike we're talking about, it makes a difference with a lot of questions and is easier to then answer them correctly.

Brettholmes89 · « **Reply #23 on:** 30 April 2015, 09:13:23 pm »

I wasn't saying it would stop it happening, but after being told about wd in the barrel and him ending up needing a new ignition, and needing a new key, just thought it was worth mentioning.

Yes I will.
It's a 1999 Fazer 600.