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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => FZS600 Fazer => Topic started by: tommyardin on 20 December 2017, 08:56:30 pm
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Well I have given into an urge that has plagued me for years now and bought my self a BLUE motorcycle, yes the true colour, but I might fit some Silver bits to it just cos I can.
What bike is it? You ask.
Well I am loathed to tell you because i know you will all be green with envy.
It is not in my possession yet, but am going over to give it a good once over tomorrow, but I have done the deal and electronically shaken hands on it.
Below is a picture of the mighty one, not actually this very one but its the same in most details, apart from its has been in a barn for the last 5 years, a dry barn I hasten to add and was last started about 18 months ago.
I know you jealous lot of foccers are all on the edge of you seat thinking is a a Moto Guzzi or a Laverda Jotta or some such beast, no I tell you much, much better that either of those.
It is a
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I know you saying to yourselves Lucky, Lucky Bastard. :lol
I have bought it at a brilliant price of 100 quid, and it looks in reasonable condition, the owner said that the only thing that was wrong when it went into the barn was one of the rear indicators was flashing slower that the others. Possibly a bad earth I reckon.
But it should be a bit of a winter project, and fun to ride in the spring.
See if I can get Mrs tommyarding to do her CBT and she can ride it.
Can you imagine turning up at Loomies bikers cafe in West Meon on that :eek lol
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100 quid are you serious? bargain of the century. you could ride that to the end of the earth and back if you wanted
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100 quid are you serious? bargain of the century. you could ride that to the end of the earth and back if you wanted
The owner of the C90 is the son of a family my wife have known for 20 or more years, he used to play with my kids when they were all youngsters, he is a great kid I told him he could get a lot more if he advertised it on eBay, but he said he just wanted rid of it, and he was just wanting £100 and for someone to clean it up. It has got a bit of bumpy chrome work here and there but I can get chroming done at a reasonable price, couple of new tyres, good clean up maybe a rattle can or three, service and should be good to go. I have seen the on eBay auctions starting at 550 quid. Sale of the century, I would say.
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100 quid - will double your money and pay delivery if you want
ive wanted one for years to turn into a mental build but they are at silly money
something for the bikeshed.cc
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100 quid - will double your money and pay delivery if you want
ive wanted one for years to turn into a mental build but they are at silly money
something for the bikeshed.cc
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I agree I did say to him he could get good money on eBay, but, he insisted I could have it for a 100 quid, so jobs-A-Gudun
It would be sacrilege to chop it like your picture.
One 4 years older just went on ebay for £1330-00
Here is one on eBay now
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-C90-C-90-Cub-90-1987-E-UK-V5-logbook-Only-10k-miles-VGC-Shed-Find/152800975107?hash=item2393a5d903:g:EtcAAOSwR2RaGE0A (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-C90-C-90-Cub-90-1987-E-UK-V5-logbook-Only-10k-miles-VGC-Shed-Find/152800975107?hash=item2393a5d903:g:EtcAAOSwR2RaGE0A)
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100 quid are you serious? bargain of the century. you could ride that to the end of the earth and back if you wanted
The owner of the C90 is the son of a family my wife have known for 20 or more years, he used to play with my kids when they were all youngsters, he is a great kid I told him he could get a lot more if he advertised it on eBay, but he said he just wanted rid of it, and he was just wanting £100 and for someone to clean it up. It has got a bit of bumpy chrome work here and there but I can get chroming done at a reasonable price, couple of new tyres, good clean up maybe a rattle can or three, service and should be good to go. I have seen the on eBay auctions starting at 550 quid. Sale of the century, I would say.
yea that's a great find. there's a lot to be said for smaller lighter bikes especially if you're just doing short trips on local roads. you can throw it around a bit more than a bigger bike and you can rev it out in all the gears without doing a million miles an hour. it's easier to get in and out of the shed, hardly takes up any space when it's parked plus you're not going to be worried about dropping it and the running costs for the week are about the same as the price of a cup of tea and a ham sandwich :lol
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i admit i wouldnt do that to a nice example but you cant even find basket cases for a £100 great lucky find and i hope you give it the justice it deserves - which is wierd considering it was the most produced motor vehicle of all time (i think the beetle was second)
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Well I have given into an urge that has plagued me for years now and bought my self a BLUE motorcycle, yes the true colour, but I might fit some Silver bits to it just cos I can.
What bike is it? You ask.
Well I am loathed to tell you because i know you will all be green with envy.
It is not in my possession yet, but am going over to give it a good once over tomorrow, but I have done the deal and electronically shaken hands on it.
Below is a picture of the mighty one, not actually this very one but its the same in most details, apart from its has been in a barn for the last 5 years, a dry barn I hasten to add and was last started about 18 months ago.
I know you jealous lot of foccers are all on the edge of you seat thinking is a a Moto Guzzi or a Laverda Jotta or some such beast, no I tell you much, much better that either of those.
It is a
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Well I have given into an urge that has plagued me for years now and bought my self a BLUE motorcycle, yes the true colour, but I might fit some Silver bits to it just cos I can.
What bike is it? You ask.
Well I am loathed to tell you because i know you will all be green with envy.
It is not in my possession yet, but am going over to give it a good once over tomorrow, but I have done the deal and electronically shaken hands on it.
Below is a picture of the mighty one, not actually this very one but its the same in most details, apart from its has been in a barn for the last 5 years, a dry barn I hasten to add and was last started about 18 months ago.
I know you jealous lot of foccers are all on the edge of you seat thinking is a a Moto Guzzi or a Laverda Jotta or some such beast, no I tell you much, much better that either of those.
It is a
I will have you know Mr Frosties AKA 'Tony the Tiger' That the staff at the care home do not insist that I am back by 9pm, in fact they have let me have a front door key for a trial period to see if i can be trusted.
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I think they want it back tomorrow :'(
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My first mod would be a lovely little chrome or wicker front basket for those essential supermarket trips, you'll be the envy of both the knitting club and sewing bee Tommy. :lol
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My first mod would be a lovely little chrome or wicker front basket for those essential supermarket trips, you'll be the envy of both the knitting club and sewing bee Tommy. :lol
Oh! Good morning Celtic how are you this fine morning. :sun :sun And do I detect a hint of jealousy wrapped up in your envious remarks about my possible new noble steed? Greed, bitterness and envy are not an attractive quality in an man.
I do take onboard your comments and am open to customisation ideas, tips and hints on how attain the best form this masterpiece of engineering. I have looked into the possibilities of a front basket and have been pleasantly surprised by the number of options available. Have a pleasant day :lol
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pure jealousy is all that is :lol
that bike could be the start of your racing career!
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Love the way that fella is resting his hand for a little extra streamlining
I used to have one when I was about 14 and ride around the fields on it that surrounded the Sharp family seat at Sharp Manor.
I snapped the front suspension at one point and a friend of my older brother welded it up -solid !
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Love the way that fella is resting his hand for a little extra streamlining
I used to have one when I was about 14 and ride around the fields on it that surrounded the Sharp family seat at Sharp Manor.
I snapped the front suspension at one point and a friend of my older brother welded it up -solid !
I personally think that the two bolts that hold the bottom of the leg shields have fallen out.
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Went and had a closer look at the Honda C90 today and was pleasantly pleased.
The leg shields Fairing is focced, as is one of the rear indicators, tyres need replacing and the battery. The front brake is seized in the off position, so it is just a time related seizure, usually easy to deal with.
The chrome work on the rims are reasonable, front is the better of the two, I think some elbow grease with some fine plumbers wire wool, a tube of Auto-sol, polish them right up bright and the give them a coat of clear spray (Like the stuff that goes on top of metallic paint finish).
It might want a cable or two and possibly a new chain, but we shall see as I progress with it.
I have upped the price to £200 as I don't want to rip him off (I still think it is really cheap) and he was well made up, he said it was more than he paid for it 15 years ago.
So he is well happy and me the same. :lol
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Ha Ha! I must of flipped that last picture
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aah its not the one from original picture but still looks in reasonable nick
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What a bargain. Although its a modern one, not got the round indicators (sniff). I had one in the last century when I was an apprentice. Red, kickstart snapped off when I got it, I just used to snick it into second and walk a few paces with it, started every time. Had it two years, all I ever did was fuel it up twice a year. Wonderful little machine. £200. Jeez.
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Well I have given into an urge that has plagued me for years now and bought my self a BLUE motorcycle, yes the true colour, but I might fit some Silver bits to it just cos I can.
What bike is it? You ask.
Well I am loathed to tell you because i know you will all be green with envy.
It is not in my possession yet, but am going over to give it a good once over tomorrow, but I have done the deal and electronically shaken hands on it.
Below is a picture of the mighty one, not actually this very one but its the same in most details, apart from its has been in a barn for the last 5 years, a dry barn I hasten to add and was last started about 18 months ago.
I know you jealous lot of foccers are all on the edge of you seat thinking is a a Moto Guzzi or a Laverda Jotta or some such beast, no I tell you much, much better that either of those.
It is a
Hiya Punk no not that exact one, Below is a picture of the mighty one, not actually this very one but its the same in most details, apart from its has been in a barn for the last 5 years, a dry barn I hasten to add and was last started about 18 months ago. I just grabbed a picture of a blue on from Google Images.
But as you pointed out not in to bad a nick. One like the original that I posted for example are selling for around 2.5 to 3K and over some of them £3750 is thew highest price i have seen with the exception of one with 38 miles on the clock one owner from new and that was going for £4700 :eek
Not sure what happens to some of my posts it keep writing in my text That I am only 78% Size :grumble bit rude and personal I feel, when I say I feel you know what I mean :rolleyes :lol
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my neighbour rebuilds these, from the ground up, he builds about one a month a makes a decent income,
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What a bargain. Although its a modern one, not got the round indicators (sniff). I had one in the last century when I was an apprentice. Red, kickstart snapped off when I got it, I just used to snick it into second and walk a few paces with it, started every time. Had it two years, all I ever did was fuel it up twice a year. Wonderful little machine. £200. Jeez.
Yeah its a 1989 Cub 90. About 30 K miles
Should be fun doing it up, I not looking for a complete restoration as in a show bike, but a good clean up and replace broken worn out stuff rattle can it, and have fun riding it for a year or two and likely to easily get my money back if i look after it, like I will, I look after all my stuff.
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my neighbour rebuilds these, from the ground up, he builds about one a month a makes a decent income,
What sort of prices does he ask, they certainly go for silly money, I nearly fell out of my chair when I looked on eGay and saw what they are going for
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What a bargain. Although its a modern one, not got the round indicators (sniff). I had one in the last century when I was an apprentice. Red, kickstart snapped off when I got it, I just used to snick it into second and walk a few paces with it, started every time. Had it two years, all I ever did was fuel it up twice a year. Wonderful little machine. £200. Jeez.
I think I will replace them indicators that are on it with some small LED ones that should increase the top speed by about 8 miles an hour, will probably sell the old ones to a local builder he could use the as bricks. :lol
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i for certain know they go for silly money and are easy to work on aswell which is just a bonus - might have to send a few back home if i ever get to japan (got to pay the rent somehow) there is a huge following and the c90 club seriously have the knowledge (not nearly as good as us though)
if your gonna rattle can it and ride it for a year or two then sell - then you cant make a loss i know a 6v engine alone just got sold for £200 (go figure)
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1500. - 2grand a time, easy money, like he says once you have done one you know where to get the parts from, the exhaust are silly money to buy.
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Well I have given into an urge that has plagued me for years now and bought my self a BLUE motorcycle, yes the true colour, but I might fit some Silver bits to it just cos I can.
What bike is it? You ask.
Well I am loathed to tell you because i know you will all be green with envy.
It is not in my possession yet, but am going over to give it a good once over tomorrow, but I have done the deal and electronically shaken hands on it.
Below is a picture of the mighty one, not actually this very one but its the same in most details, apart from its has been in a barn for the last 5 years, a dry barn I hasten to add and was last started about 18 months ago.
I know you jealous lot of foccers are all on the edge of you seat thinking is a a Moto Guzzi or a Laverda Jotta or some such beast, no I tell you much, much better that either of those.
It is a
I bought my 1992 C90-G Cub back in January with 11000 miles on clock. Replaced the tyres with new rubber & the exhaust which was pretty rusty. Rode around on it this summer-the highlight being taking it to the Manx GP late August( in the back of a van). It made the TT course an interesting experience although I prefer a manual clutch it was enjoyable.
Mr Honda never intended these little bikes to last 25-50 years so there are areas to watch out for especially the underside of the main frame tube that can rot out and under the plastic section at the back where water can collect. Eventually the rust can reach the top mounts of rear suspension with MOT problems.
I stripped mine down this autumn and have had some welding work done on the main frame & have powdercoated all the steel bodywork.
Have got a brand new Lifan 110cc 4speed motor with manual clutch ready to fit and hope to be returning to IOM for next years Manx GP.
Does yours have a name yet, Tommy?. Mines known as "Henry" (Honda-Fonda get it?)
You seem to have got a bargain-I paid considerably more than you but its a "keeper" :lol
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I know you saying to yourselves Lucky, Lucky Bastard. :lol
I have bought it at a brilliant price of 100 quid, and it looks in reasonable condition, the owner said that the only thing that was wrong when it went into the barn was one of the rear indicators was flashing slower that the others. Possibly a bad earth I reckon.
But it should be a bit of a winter project, and fun to ride in the spring.
See if I can get Mrs tommyarding to do her CBT and she can ride it.
Can you imagine turning up at Loomies bikers cafe in West Meon on that :eek lol
The only thing wrong when it went into the barn is that it came out again :lol
Sorry I couldn’t resist that.
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What a bargain. Although its a modern one, not got the round indicators (sniff). I had one in the last century when I was an apprentice. Red, kickstart snapped off when I got it, I just used to snick it into second and walk a few paces with it, started every time. Had it two years, all I ever did was fuel it up twice a year. Wonderful little machine. £200. Jeez.
I think I will replace them indicators that are on it with some small LED ones that should increase the top speed by about 8 miles an hour, will probably sell the old ones to a local builder he could use the as bricks. :lol
Its the runabout down to the shops etc. Id have one tomorrow if they weren't daft money. I have seen some lovely conversions, not like the ugly thing in a previous post, but for me the charm is in the original design and function. People do world tours on em you know ;)
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I know you saying to yourselves Lucky, Lucky Bastard. :lol
I have bought it at a brilliant price of 100 quid, and it looks in reasonable condition, the owner said that the only thing that was wrong when it went into the barn was one of the rear indicators was flashing slower that the others. Possibly a bad earth I reckon.
But it should be a bit of a winter project, and fun to ride in the spring.
See if I can get Mrs tommyarding to do her CBT and she can ride it.
Can you imagine turning up at Loomies bikers cafe in West Meon on that :eek lol
The only thing wrong when it went into the barn is that it came out again :lol
Sorry I couldn’t resist that.
WHAT !!!
Go wash your mouth out, Admin have a word will you, two strikes like that and you would be out of a decent club, your probably be OK in here though :eek
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Hope you all had a great Christmas day :lol
Now any of you guys in here ever owned, or, know where to find the engine number on a Honda C90 Step-Through? It is a 1989 model, I have found the frame number it is on a riveted plate on the side or the bike above the left hand side tool box/cover under the edge of the seat it is also stamped into the frame near the swinging arm, same side just to the rear of the engine.
The Parents of the owner moved from Hampshire to Cambridge about 5 months ago and because the bike had been shut up in a barn/shed since 2011 assumed their son had got rid of it, so threw out the folder with all the bits and bobs that were pertinent to the Honda, including the registration documentation.
Now I know you can apply for a new one at the cost of £25 but I am not sure what info is needed so I am guessing Frame number (Which I have) Registration Number (Which I have) and possibly an engine number which I can not find on the engine anywhere, now there is signs of a sticker that was on the top of the engine at some point but it is long gone just some signs of where it was and some glue remains.
The only thing that I can see is cast into the iron cylinder barrel " E11" and "85 cm3" E11 I am assuming is the type and 85cm3 it the capacity of the engine 85cc, classed Honda 90.
It must have been named by a bloke they also make out things are bigger than they actually are.
Have just purchased a Haynes Manual from eGay £13-00 inc postage, but alas it is not in my possession as yet and I could do with having this engine number to hand.
The good thing is, and, it also makes thing easier is that the person I purchased the Honda off will apply for the replacement V5 Reg Document in his name and pay the £25 out of the purchased price.
I can then register the bike in my name, but I believe he will need the info asked for above to apply for the V5.
Does anyone know when VIN numbers first started to be used in the UK? there is no VIN plate on the 1989 Honda just the frame number on the Alloy Plate and swinging arm.
Cheers my dear, now back to that Slow Gin :lol
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Well I have given into an urge that has plagued me for years now and bought my self a BLUE motorcycle, yes the true colour, but I might fit some Silver bits to it just cos I can.
What bike is it? You ask.
Well I am loathed to tell you because i know you will all be green with envy.
It is not in my possession yet, but am going over to give it a good once over tomorrow, but I have done the deal and electronically shaken hands on it.
Below is a picture of the mighty one, not actually this very one but its the same in most details, apart from its has been in a barn for the last 5 years, a dry barn I hasten to add and was last started about 18 months ago.
I know you jealous lot of foccers are all on the edge of you seat thinking is a a Moto Guzzi or a Laverda Jotta or some such beast, no I tell you much, much better that either of those.
It is a
Hiya Punk no not that exact one, Below is a picture of the mighty one, not actually this very one but its the same in most details, apart from its has been in a barn for the last 5 years, a dry barn I hasten to add and was last started about 18 months ago. I just grabbed a picture of a blue on from Google Images.
But as you pointed out not in to bad a nick. One like the original that I posted for example are selling for around 2.5 to 3K and over some of them £3750 is thew highest price i have seen with the exception of one with 38 miles on the clock one owner from new and that was going for £4700 :eek
Not sure what happens to some of my posts it keep writing in my text That I am only 78% Size :grumble bit rude and personal I feel, when I say I feel you know what I mean :rolleyes :lol
The one above went for £6,230 at the end of bidding.
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under the lowest cooling fin of the barrel on the crankcase is where im reading from other sources should start c90-xxxxxxxxxx
the e11 isnt that a euro type approval stamp (seems to early to me) and 85cm3 is just the capacity but we all know that
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quick thought - give that area a scrub , because the 85cm3 is cast in so it sticks out
engine numbers are stamped in so could have got filled/covered with crud over time making it invisable
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quick thought - give that area a scrub , because the 85cm3 is cast in so it sticks out
engine numbers are stamped in so could have got filled/covered with crud over time making it invisable
Cheers Disorderlypunk,
I'm afraid someone has put much to much slow gin in me for me to possibly even make it to the shed, let alone read a number.
Torrow.
Cheers
oops! Tomorrow
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yep i can defiantly tell that is true, if torrow doesnt come maybe tomorrow will lol
have a good one - im just on the real ale (somehow i spent christmas eve and day sober - sat night not so much)
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Well it has been a while since I looked at the C90, had the carb off and cleaned it out, the carb is in very good ,condition but was really dirty inside, squeaky clean now though in and out. Made up a maintenance petrol tank as I did not want to put clean fuel in the C90 petrol tank until it has been thoroughly clieaned out.
Found a bit of a problem with the bike, I thought to start with that the engine was partly siezed on kicking it over the engine did not spin over as I would have expected, but felt strangely tight as if the piston was tight in the bore. I removed one of the tapper covers and kicked her over again and the tapper just nodded, and did not compress/open the valve at all.
Now I am feeling rather pissed off, looking like there are fairly serious issues with this lump, valves not opening engine refusing to turn over properly,I thought I would check the compression, plug out, finger over plug hole, push the kick starter down buy hand and could feel some compression but not much as the thing still was not turning over properly.
Stood up and in my frustration was rather harsh on the kick starter and gave it a hard shove down and the motor spun over as Inwould of expected it to, thought to myself something had freed off plug back in and the bloody thing feels as if it semi seized again, plug out and she spins over rapidly..WTF is going on?
Quick search on the net came up with lots of hits saying it is 100% the clutch that's gone, one hit explained that the centrifugal clutch is slipping and not overcoming the compression of the engine and that is why the motor spins over fine with the spark plug out.
He recommended leaning the bike hard over to the left, almost on its side and try kicking it over with the plug in, this I did and the bike started on the third kick, it ran sweet as a nut after the first juddering coughs, bike back upright again on the stand and she is ticking over great. Switched the bike off and it refused to start again until I laid it over again.
This is the symptom according to the guys explanation of a fucked centafugal clutch. He said often the bike being left for a long period allows the plates to stick together and if the bike is low on oil (which it was, it did not show on the dipstick even with it screwed in) the plates can dry out and the lining material can shrink and start to tear off when it's kicked over.
Methinks the guys knows what he is talking about, he discribed exactly what was happening and how to start the bike by laying it down after topping the oil up.
New plates about £18.00 plus the same for a complete engine gasket set, aparantley engine out about 30 to 40 minutes and the plate replacement takes about 30 minutes he said the hardest part is cleaning the old gasket off the two mating case faces.
I love it when a plan comes together. Thumbs up for the Web, such a useful resource.
Engine was coming out anyway for a complete bodywork makeover.
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Great thing the web , lots of crap on it but some really helpful tips , advice and knowledge , you just got to sort the good from the bad....
sounds like youve found a fazer owner whos also an expert on C90s :thumbup
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if the hardest thing on a c90 is removing old gasket then they must be real easy elsewhere
who would have thought a centrifugal clutch would cause that to happen
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Great thing the web , lots of crap on it but some really helpful tips , advice and knowledge , you just got to sort the good from the bad....
sounds like youve found a fazer owner whos also an expert on C90s :thumbup
Cheers Red, The helpful hit was not from a Fazer owner as far as I know, just a random internet search hit, he obviously knows a lot about C90's and is happy to share his knowledge. As you said lots of good stuff out there but needs to be sieved out from the abundance of shite that there is as well.
Pleased so far with what I have seen of the C90, some rust at the back end but certainly not rotten, no welding needed as far as I can see, mostly surface rust.
Stripped the wiring harness out, the wireing is so simple, lights only work with the engine running, the model that I have is the first of the electronic ignition models so no contact breakers as in the earlier C90's.
One busted indicator but other than that all electrics are good and working as they should.
I have a nice set of led indicators that I will fit them as the original rear ones stick out so far it I could see it could make filtering a bit hit and miss, being hopeful more miss than hit.
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Well some time had passed since I posted in here.
Quick update on the 1989 Honda C90-G.
Completely stripped the Cub down and was pleasantly surprised at how little rust was on the old thing, the bits that had surface rust I sand blasted in a mates sandblasting cabinet and removed all trace then spent hours with wet and dry rubbing the thing down.the insides of all the box sections have be painted with Red Oxide, the body work including all the plastics have been primed/undercoated and given four coats of china blue enamel just a couple of bit left to spray, I have run out of china blue paint so order another can.
Huge clean up in the shed everything was covered with blue over-spray dust.
Popped the cover off the side of the engine to reveal knackered clutch plates, I had anticipated that one and had a full gasket set and new plates sat on the bench, new clutch in this afternoon and had to spend about an hour and a bit cleaning the old gasket off the two halves of the case, not sure what those Japanese fitters use but it was a bastid to remove.
Anyway new clutch now fitted.
New tyres and tubes and rim tapes arrive 3 days ago so will fit them tomorrow (And mend a puncture in my push bike at the same time)
Finish off a bit more spray painting when the paint arrives then leave it for a couple of weeks for the paint to really cure before starting reassembling the old thing, actually I might leave it until the end of the first week in march before reassembling as I going be out of the country for a while.
Nothing particularly exciting just visiting relatives and going with the wife to a book festival in Dubai.
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Thats looking good Tommy, but why are you still up at 3.30 am? :eek
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There's nothing on the telly, it's like watching paint dry :)
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looks like you will have a proper minter when your done
good on ya for saving it
not to mention the financial benefits of saving it , better looking than a pension fund aswell
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Spent a few hours cleaning the old lacquer off the alternator/front sprocket engine case, wet and dry up through the grades to finish with 1200 grit before braking out the Solvo metal polish, pleased with the way its polished up as the case had about 25% of the lacquer flaked off and case was white and furry/pitted.
I painted the clutch cover engine case with silver heat proof paint, but have decided to pop the cover back off the engine and do the same polishing job to that side as well.
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Spent a few hours cleaning the old lacquer off the alternator/front sprocket engine case, wet and dry up through the grades to finish with 1200 grit before braking out the Solvo metal polish, pleased with the way its polished up as the case had about 25% of the lacquer flaked off and case was white and furry/pitted.
I painted the clutch cover engine case with silver heat proof paint, but have decided to pop the cover back off the engine and do the same polishing job to that side as well.
Get yourself a bench grinder and some polishing mops and grades of polishing soap and save your elbow grease - not to mention get a fantastic finnish
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Spent a few hours cleaning the old lacquer off the alternator/front sprocket engine case, wet and dry up through the grades to finish with 1200 grit before braking out the Solvo metal polish, pleased with the way its polished up as the case had about 25% of the lacquer flaked off and case was white and furry/pitted.
I painted the clutch cover engine case with silver heat proof paint, but have decided to pop the cover back off the engine and do the same polishing job to that side as well.
Get yourself a bench grinder and some polishing mops and grades of polishing soap and save your elbow grease - not to mention get a fantastic finnish
I'm off up to see a old mate today to use his sand blast cabinet to remove the paint from the clutch cover he also has a bench grinder with mop wheels so might give that a go at the same time, as you say save some hard work.
Have to admit though I was pleasantly surprised how well the case came up with Wet & Dry and warm soapy water, I started off with 400, 600,1000 and 1200 grit but it obviously left swirl marks but about 45 minutes with Solvo got rid of them.
I tend to be a person who regularly cleans and polishes my bikes so the engine cases will only get better with a bit of Solvo each time I clean the C90.
The black plastic back lamp unit was all pale grey with fade so did the same to that and that has come up well to, only problem is that it is so charged with static that it is a dust magnet now :lol
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Thats looking good Tommy, but why are you still up at 3.30 am? :eek
That is just me Slappy, once I start something I tend to throw my all into it and normal life goes out the window.
:rolleyes
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Well I rang my mate up to ask him if I could use his bench grinder and polishing mops and the selfish foccer has only gone on holiday with his Mrs to Jamaica, thoughtless bugger.
So had to resort to the traditional method, Out with the different grades of Wet and Dry and soapy water, Brasso followed up with Autosol, 7 hours later this is the result on the clutch cover.
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Just a quick update on my winter project, this are going well in the Shent or it it a Ted. (Workshop)
My shed is so jammed full of stuff I had to resort to putting up a large frame tent in the back garden, I am using that as a workshop for the renovation, it works surprising well as a workshop I have put down a 3/4" Plywood floor in there and constructed a bench, lots of power points, lights, WiFi extender from the house and a bloody great electric fan heater, all the comforts of home without the interruptions of normal life.
Anyway Honda C90 is almost back together, Had one issue with the electrics when I switched an indicator on all four came on, it was the same when I switched left or right, the problem was in the indicator warning light, I messed about for about 6 hours trying to sort that one.
The old adage came into play that the problem is often staring you in the face, but fail to see it, the indicator warning light is the one thing that is common to both left and right indication and there it was in the speedometer dial staring me in the face. :'( anyway it is sorted now :D
With a bit of luck should be ready to kick the old girl over tomorrow evening and hopefully she will burst into life, rather than in flames. :thumbdown
Fuel tank to go on with new fuel line, carb to go on (All nice and clean), exhaust, and chain and chain guard to fit, horn, and legshields. found a great big crack in the legshields when I cleaned them up I knew there was a lump broken out of them but this large crack has focced them, so for now I have cut them down, I will see how it goes and if I don't like it I can purchase a new one, but sadly my budget on the bike had been exceeded already.
£400 was my budget, spent £460 not including the £200 I paid for the bike, I know if I eBay-ed the bike I would easily get my money back as they are going for mega money.
Its been a great 6 week project stripping the old girl down to the last nut and bolt, sand blasting all the metal work, and respraying, including respraying all the plastic panels and fork shields.
Bit of advice for anyone completely stripping a bike down is take shed loads of photos of everything before you remove it, especially all the wiring, mark cables that go together with a permanent maker pen (Don't like to say a Sharpie, cos he gets punchy :lol I used a series of lines, crosses, stars anything that you can match up.
Anyway this is the old girl as of tonight.
Oh! got the log book all sorted out and it's registered in my name and on a a Sorn Statement for now.
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Everytime i see an update on this project i get a little excited to see whats happend
she is looking good give yourself a pat on the back.
i enjoy seeing an old bird come to life (but not at the strip club, that once was enough)
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Yes: very nice job. Obviously the work of a perfectionist. :)
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Nice work tommy :thumbup .....keep the updates coming , makes good reading while we're not riding our fazers...
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Bit of advice for anyone completely stripping a bike down is take shed loads of photos of everything before you remove it, especially all the wiring, mark cables that go together with a permanent maker pen (Don't like to say a Sharpie, cos he gets punchy :lol I used a series of lines, crosses, stars anything that you can match up.
X and lines a good idea as I was doing some stuff and thought I would be cleaver R=red / B-Blue / B- brown --- wait a min STUPID I might get caught out with B for brown and B for blue so I added the next letter only to realise that when I came to connect back up I had 2 that said BL - cleaver arse Bl for blue and a BL for black :wall
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Bit of advice for anyone completely stripping a bike down is take shed loads of photos of everything before you remove it, especially all the wiring, mark cables that go together with a permanent maker pen (Don't like to say a Sharpie, cos he gets punchy :lol I used a series of lines, crosses, stars anything that you can match up.
X and lines a good idea as I was doing some stuff and thought I would be cleaver R=red / B-Blue / B- brown --- wait a min STUPID I might get caught out with B for brown and B for blue so I added the next letter only to realise that when I came to connect back up I had 2 that said BL - cleaver arse Bl for blue and a BL for black :wall
Also if you have 3 or 4 pairs blues in a headlamp shell or under the seat you knackered using B & G & R.
Using symbols no mater what the colour of the wire you cant get it wrong, XXX or XX or X, or *** or ** or *, or 111 or 11. mark them before unplugging, you get the picture.
Mrs Bought me a New Skid Lid for the C90 today, open faced Duchini
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your mrs bought you a helmet to match a c90, one question- Does she have a single sister ????
best reaction i have ever got has been - YOU BOUGHT ANOTHER PROJECT!!!!!!!
at that point i chose to be single as bikes dont complain when i ride them too hard
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TED is finished.
Did the last of the work to him today, decided to try for an MOT this afternoon, rang A-Force Motorcycles at about 1-00 am hoping to get it done either today or tomorrow, Their response if you want it done today we will make a space, I arrived at 3-05 by 3-10 it was in the workshop, Darren one of the owners of A-Force Motorcycles lent me some spanner to I could adjust the angle of the heel and toe gear change, he then did a thorough job of going over the bike for me gave me a couple of off record advisories then MOT'ed TED for me, yes he passed with flying colours.
Darren's comment was its the smartest C 90 he has seen in many a year. :thumbup
If you are in the Hampshire area and want work done I would highly recommend these guys to you 'A-Force Motorcycles of Aldershot' run by two brothers Alex and Darren.
They do the stuff on my Fazer FZS 600 that I can not do, or, do not want to do. Skilled guys and not greedy money wise that want you to be happy and become a loyal customer IE: they want you back.
Honda insured now and MOT tested, off to the P/Office tomorrow to tax it, £18-00 a year, can't be bad. Can not tax it online as TED has a SORN statement on him so has to be done in person at P/Office.
It has been an interesting project and also an enjoyable one, the whole project (including purchase price of the bike £200) has come out at £730 including the MOT.
I will put a new exhaust system on it, there was some rust under the silencer so I painted it with Matt Black Heat proof paint but it has burnt off where the baffle plate restricts the gas flow, New exhaust system front to back One piece unit.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-EXHAUST-OEM-REPLACEMENT-SILENCER-IN-CHROME-TO-FIT-THE-HONDA-C90-CUB-83-02/192189934794?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649
Miriam my Daughter named the C 90 'TED' cos I used a very big Frame Tent as a workshop to do the renovation in she said it was a cross between a Tent and a Shed = TED.
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Very smart Tommy, nice to see a project completed without any real problems.
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What's happened to this site? We'll be sharing knitting patterns next :eek
Only kidding, looks like an entertaining project and a good colour to. :)
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Soooo, is it a keeper?
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What's happened to this site? We'll be sharing knitting patterns next :eek
Only kidding, looks like an entertaining project and a good colour to. :)
I can live with the piss taking, I taxed the Honda about lunch time today, £18 a year! what a foccing rip off :lol
Then rode it up to Wildplum's house (My mate) it meant a 9 miler up the A3 (London to Portsmouth Road) heading North, well if your heading North from anywhere down South it is an up hill journey heading North.
I managed 53 miles an hour at one point (according to the speedo) but it did not last very long and settled at a happy but revvey 50 mph, it seemed to hold speed along the flat and only dropped 2 or 3 miles an hour up hills.
When I left Wildplum's house and got back onto the A3 heading South I still only managed 53 MPH down hill, a couple of bigger bikes when flying by me but slowed right up and I caught up with then they parted and allowed me to pass between them both giving the C 90 a good look over and smiling the then shot by me again and slowed up again and allowed me to pass between them again but this time they had swapped sides, again I got a yeah, a smile and a whoop of glee, then a thumbs up again, they then disappeared like a bolt of lightening. :eek
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What's happened to this site? We'll be sharing knitting patterns next :eek
Only kidding, looks like an entertaining project and a good colour to. :)
my mother has taken on a new project :lol :lol :lol
(https://www.teacosyfolk.co.uk/images/motorbike-tea-cosy.jpg)
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What's happened to this site? We'll be sharing knitting patterns next :eek
Only kidding, looks like an entertaining project and a good colour to. :)
my mother has taken on a new project :lol :lol :lol
I love it :lol Good old Mother Punk :eek
(https://www.teacosyfolk.co.uk/images/motorbike-tea-cosy.jpg)
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On a serious note though the C-90 has a fair amount of piston slap, and leaves a faint trail of blue smoke behind when your giving it the beans
(Mind you your always giving it the beans)
Coming up to a junction, shut down engine on the overrun, all clear, throttle round your neck, massive cloud of blue smoke :'(
Going to put a new pot and piston on it, about 55 quid on the bay (Prob Chinese), or, might find an engineering place and have it re-bored and new piston.
anyone know of a place near Guildford/Portsmouth area that can do this.
There used to be a place near Elstead close to Farnham/Guildford but not sure if they are still there. I believe they were called 'G & S Valves'
Any way a bit of piston slap has not spoiled the project, a mornings work and £60ish and jobs-a-goodun, its all apart of the final fiddle. :D
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Got the C90 out today and it refused to start, got disheartened so left it for a while, In the mean time the FZS started first stab on the button, went back to the Honda and tried again, it would run very lumpy with the choke on full but as soon as I moved the choke lever an eighth of an inch it would cut out. took the carb off and the bowl was full of pink oil, guess what twat put the 2 stroke fuel for the petrol strimmer in the Honda?
I also left the fuel tap on and as the fuel evaporated out of the carb, firstly because the thing was hot when I stopped, and just through normal evaporation it left pretty much neat oil in the bottom of the float bowl, with the hint of petrol it started but was so short of petrol as Soon as the choke came off in the slightest it stopped because of an incredibly week mixture, not helped by a very oily plug.
Lesson learned X 2.
1: don't put two stroke fuel in a four stroke engine.
2: Turn the bloody fuel tap off.