Author Topic: Aaaaargh....HELP! (Read 4935 times)

Bracechenko · « **on:** 12 October 2011, 01:22:15 pm »

I've locked my key under the seat of my FZS600 this morning and it's my only one!!

What a disaster! I was all ready to leave for work and realised what I had done.

No doubt some of you wise old folk have done something similar, any suggestions before I start drilling out locks?

Brace

GringoRojo · « **Reply #1 on:** 12 October 2011, 01:45:23 pm »

never done that. and why don't you have a spare or two secreted somethere in the house/garage?
I have my keys attached to one of those yellow coiled cables that you get for disc lock reminders which I've attached to the zip on my jacket pocket. only take the key off to put in the ignition.

which part of the seat is it under? front or back? could you use a narrow/flat screwdriver to try and open the lock?

Hodge · « **Reply #2 on:** 12 October 2011, 02:02:12 pm »

Have you tried tipping the bike upside down and shaking it

Bracechenko · « **Reply #3 on:** 12 October 2011, 02:12:52 pm »

I don't think the bike came with a spare key when I bought if a few years back?? I'm going to turn the flat upside down to look for it in case it did come with one (just can't remember if it did or didn't now!).

Hodge, good advice ya git!

DryRob · « **Reply #4 on:** 12 October 2011, 06:27:34 pm »

Rather than break the lock can you get the undertray off? I've never looked at taking it off so don't know if you can access the screws with the seat on. You could cut a hole in the undertray then replace or repair it an that way you'd still only need one key for you bike. You might even be able to get away with doing a straight cut and bending the plastic down and (temporarily) repair it with ductape.

solorider · « **Reply #5 on:** 12 October 2011, 06:34:04 pm »

can you unbolt the seat lock to access the cable,that should be the easiest way to get the seat off?

SEPTIKANGEL · « **Reply #6 on:** 12 October 2011, 06:51:43 pm »

If you can get the ignition barrel off the top yoke, it MAY have the key number stamped at the base.
I recall getting keys cut many many years ago that way, it may not be the same though nowadays.
Phone a breaker first to ask if he'd have a check for you on a similar ignition barrell, save stripping your ignition barrel uneccessarily.
Best of luck

Bracechenko · « **Reply #7 on:** 12 October 2011, 10:32:45 pm »

Cool, thanks for the tips guys. Just got home now and had a look in the dark and I reckon that with a bit of daylight, time and patience i'll be able to pry the seat up enough to get my hand in the gap to fish about for the key.

If not, i'll see what I can do with the undertray.

Cheers
Brace

DryRob · « **Reply #8 on:** 12 October 2011, 11:27:23 pm »

If you take the infills under the seat off you might be able to get at the catch holding the seat down or get at the cable like solorider suggested.

scousy · « **Reply #9 on:** 13 October 2011, 12:00:28 am »

Quote from: Bracechenko on 12 October 2011, 10:32:45 pm

Cool, thanks for the tips guys. Just got home now and had a look in the dark and I reckon that with a bit of daylight, time and patience i'll be able to pry the seat up enough to get my hand in the gap to fish about for the key.

If not, i'll see what I can do with the undertray.

Cheers
Brace

magnet tied to string or something ?

Raymy · « **Reply #10 on:** 13 October 2011, 12:51:54 am »

i done it once. Heres what you do

brute fucking ignorance and elbow grease and just pull the seat off. No joke

The lug at the back of the saddle is the offender and its under sub frame. The plastic base of the saddle will bend (and return to shape after) to let the lug pop out from under the subframe. The lock and catch at the front will still be locked but you will have enough at the back to get under and retrieve the key. Its a bastard but if you get the rage it'll be done in seconds. The lug will be a slightly different level after, but it just means it will be a more snug fit when you put the seat back on

DONE!!!!!

Gingernutz · « **Reply #11 on:** 13 October 2011, 06:47:08 am »

Me? I'd bite the bullet and get a locksmith

griff86 · « **Reply #12 on:** 13 October 2011, 07:32:50 am »

What a nightmare!
I'm going to get a spare key cut this weekend now cause of this.
Thanks

locksmith · « **Reply #13 on:** 13 October 2011, 09:21:01 am »

Is it done yet, I don't mind charging you a fortune to drive to Wales and back

Without having a FZS600 in front of me to look at I'm no help I'm afraid.

Prehaps a friendly local foccer can call by and you can look under his seat to seek a less strenuous method than Rays?

Strifae · « **Reply #14 on:** 13 October 2011, 01:01:09 pm »

Side panels off and a straight ruler - you can unlatch it this way with a bit of fiddling

Looney tune · « **Reply #15 on:** 13 October 2011, 01:21:00 pm »

Quote from: Strifae on 13 October 2011, 01:01:09 pm

Side panels off and a straight ruler - you can unlatch it this way with a bit of fiddling

Seems like a good idea, but why the music ?

Bracechenko · « **Reply #16 on:** 13 October 2011, 02:25:11 pm »

Quote from: Tiberius Onklevaart on 13 October 2011, 12:51:54 am

i done it once. Heres what you do

brute fucking ignorance and elbow grease and just pull the seat off. No joke

The lug at the back of the saddle is the offender and its under sub frame. The plastic base of the saddle will bend (and return to shape after) to let the lug pop out from under the subframe. The lock and catch at the front will still be locked but you will have enough at the back to get under and retrieve the key. Its a bastard but if you get the rage it'll be done in seconds. The lug will be a slightly different level after, but it just means it will be a more snug fit when you put the seat back on

DONE!!!!!

You know what, I started pulling the seat last night and could see that that's a possibility so will be giving it some welly tonight. The magnet idea would be great but typically i've stuffed a bike cover under there so there's no room to fish around in.

Bracechenko · « **Reply #17 on:** 13 October 2011, 07:39:04 pm »

Yay!....all done

Brut force sorted it

Grahamm · « **Reply #18 on:** 13 October 2011, 11:02:13 pm »

Quote from: Bracechenko on 13 October 2011, 07:39:04 pm

Brut force sorted it

Praise be to Henry Cooper!


BRUT 33 TV AD Henry Cooper and Barry Sheene

GringoRojo · « **Reply #19 on:** 13 October 2011, 11:08:52 pm »

now go get a couple of spares cut, ya muppet

Robbie8666 · « **Reply #20 on:** 14 October 2011, 04:11:06 pm »

glad u got it sorted, hope u got a spare cut now...
top tip tell your best mate or someone you trust where u keep ur spare key!! you might not be at home next time and they can pick it up & bring it to you!

Bracechenko · « **Reply #21 on:** 14 October 2011, 08:15:51 pm »

Loving Henry Cooper lol!

Yep, deffo going to get a key cut alright!