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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner => Topic started by: WayneUK on 29 July 2020, 05:20:11 pm
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Hi
I seem to have some slight movement on one side of the swing arm, will this be the bearings?
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Wouldn't know for certain but I wouldn't have thought any play was built in so I'd go for bearings or bushes whatever's in there.
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Max 1mm of play at the end of the swingarm. Basically if you can feel any knocking at all and the shaft is correctly torqued, your bearings are shot. Make sure you don't confuse swingarm play with wheel bearing play.
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Max 1mm of play at the end of the swingarm. Basically if you can feel any knocking at all and the shaft is correctly torqued, your bearings are shot. Make sure you don't confuse swingarm play with wheel bearing play.
There is a knock when I pull the swing arm to the left
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How much movement at the swingarm end? Check the swingarm pivot nut for correct torque, i.e. loosen it and re-torque it, does it still move/knock?
It's possible the bearings have become dry, due to a failed thrust/cover seal or lack of maintenance. If you're lucky and you've caught it in time a repack of grease and the seals are ok (check if they're dry/going brittle replace) you may get away with it, but it's also very possible they're shot and you'll have to replace the bearings and thrust/covers. You should be ok with the pivot shaft, but it's possible it's damaged too, depending how bad a going over with fine wet/dry may sort it, but if it worn by more than a few thou it's also buggered, if you use it and it's worn it will bugger the new bearings in short order.
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I've ordered some new bearings, I'll have a look at the pivot shaft when I take it apart when the bearings come.
Will I be ok to take the swing arm off with the bike on the center stand?
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I've ordered some new bearings, I'll have a look at the pivot shaft when I take it apart when the bearings come.
Don't forget to check the thrust/cover seals, it's bee a while since I taken them off but I'm fairly certain there's a seal built in, if it's buggered they'll need replacing and you don't want to have to do the job again ;)
Will I be ok to take the swing arm off with the bike on the centre stand?
Yes, just make sure you take off any top boxes/panniers etc and bungee/cable tie the front level also be aware with lateral pushing/pulling. ;) The swingarm should come out fairly easily, if you're forcing anything it's wrong stop and recheck :)
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I've ordered some new bearings, I'll have a look at the pivot shaft when I take it apart when the bearings come.
Don't forget to check the thrust/cover seals, it's bee a while since I taken them off but I'm fairly certain there's a seal built in, if it's buggered they'll need replacing and you don't want to have to do the job again ;)
Will I be ok to take the swing arm off with the bike on the centre stand?
Yes, just make sure you take off any top boxes/panniers etc and bungee/cable tie the front level also be aware with lateral pushing/pulling. ;) The swingarm should come out fairly easily, if you're forcing anything it's wrong stop and recheck :)
Thank you for the advice, not done anything like this before, looked at a few vids and diagrams looks pretty straight forward, so I'll keep you updated how things go
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Will I be ok to follow these steps or will I need to do or should do anything differently as this looks like a 600?
https://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?topic=72.0
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morning WAYNE, yes that`s a 600 Fazer and a very good guide with some very useful tips...slow but sure is the way to go, if you get stuck or are unsure about anything just ask on here...let us know how you get on.
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Will I be ok to follow these steps or will I need to do or should do anything differently as this looks like a 600?
https://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?topic=72.0 (https://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?topic=72.0)
Not a bad guide :)
I would add clean the whole back end first, I mean proper de-grease and jet wash the under tray, get off all the old chain lub and dirt.
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Will I be ok to follow these steps or will I need to do or should do anything differently as this looks like a 600?
https://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?topic=72.0 (https://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?topic=72.0)
Not a bad guide :)
I would add clean the whole back end first, I mean proper de-grease and jet wash the under tray, get off all the old chain lub and dirt.
Ok so having a look around while waiting for the bearings to come, in case I'd need the pivot shaft, in the guide he calling the pivot shaft wrong?He has the bush and bearing and the pivot shaft is the one that bolts the swing arm on with the bolt on?
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Ok so having a look around while waiting for the bearings to come, in case I'd need the pivot shaft, in the guide he calling the pivot shaft wrong?He has the bush and bearing and the pivot shaft is the one that bolts the swing arm on with the bolt on?
The bush (pivot shaft/s) new/old in the picture are at the bottom, the bolt or officially named pivot shaft is above these, with a washer and nut on, it goes through the bush (pivot shaft) which is hollow.
Look here https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/4175435/fzs1000-fazer-5lv8-2002-080-a/rear-arm (https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/4175435/fzs1000-fazer-5lv8-2002-080-a/rear-arm) bush is No 2, pivot shaft No 5.
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Ok so having a look around while waiting for the bearings to come, in case I'd need the pivot shaft, in the guide he calling the pivot shaft wrong?He has the bush and bearing and the pivot shaft is the one that bolts the swing arm on with the bolt on?
The bush (pivot shaft/s) new/old in the picture are at the bottom, the bolt or officially named pivot shaft is above these, with a washer and nut on, it goes through the bush (pivot shaft) which is hollow.
Look here https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/4175435/fzs1000-fazer-5lv8-2002-080-a/rear-arm (https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/4175435/fzs1000-fazer-5lv8-2002-080-a/rear-arm) bush is No 2, pivot shaft No 5.
Yes thats what I was looking at, but he said he got a new pivot shaft No. 5 but it shows a new Bush No.2 and not a pivot shaft No.5 , which are two different items.
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Taken back wheel off to have a look and it looks like the arm relay bearings ? :rolleyes
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T looks like the arm relay bearings ? :rolleyes
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T looks like the arm relay bearings ? :rolleyes
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Yep, its not the pivot shaft bearings its the arm relay bearings
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Mate if the end of the swingarm is moving side to side it's not the shock relay bearing. Now hold a minute, when you say your swingarm is moving are you meaning up and down or side to side?
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Mate if the end of the swingarm is moving side to side it's not the shock relay bearing. Now hold a minute, when you say your swingarm is moving are you meaning up and down or side to side?
Sorry yes its up and down
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Gnasher will correct me where Im wrong or am bike agnostic -
But that could be the swing arm bearing, one of the bearings in the suspension linkages, or possibly even a rear wheel bearing. When you say you have up/down play how are you seeing/feeling this..? When an MOT tester checks all of the above for free-play, they stand behind the bike and put both hands on the rim of the rear wheel and gently but firmly pull upwards a few times. And as others have asked, how much free play are you seeing/feeling? If the movement is almost imperceptible, then that's most likely an MOT advisory. But back to narrowing down where the play is -
- If you haven't done so already the first thing to so is remove the rear wheel, then with the sprocket carrier and axel in-place put your knee/chest on the top of the wheel and again pully gently but firmly on the axel and check for free-play - there should be none that you can feel, if there is you should replace all the wheel bearing as you can replace just one (good pattern bearings are cheap enough now)
- When the rear wheel out same as before grab the ends of the swing-arm and check for free-play. If you feel any its either a linkage bearing or swing-arm bearing.
- Remove the suspension linkage and using the bolts that go through the roller bearing check for lateral movement, as in up/down or diagonally. If there is any movement the bearings and/or the bolts will need to be replaced. Note - I think the bearings in the linkage may need to be pressed out and new ones pressed in, but don't quote me on this.
- If your wheel bearings and your suspension linkage bearings are fine, then that only leave the swing arm bearings. The only test I can think that 'might' show wear is to hold both arms and try a gently but firm twisting motion. If there is any free-play then replace the bearing and check the swing-arm excel for wear.
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Gnasher will correct me where Im wrong or am bike agnostic -
But that could be the swing arm bearing, one of the bearings in the suspension linkages, or possibly even a rear wheel bearing. When you say you have up/down play how are you seeing/feeling this..? When an MOT tester checks all of the above for free-play, they stand behind the bike and put both hands on the rim of the rear wheel and gently but firmly pull upwards a few times. And as others have asked, how much free play are you seeing/feeling? If the movement is almost imperceptible, then that's most likely an MOT advisory. But back to narrowing down where the play is -
- If you haven't done so already the first thing to so is remove the rear wheel, then with the sprocket carrier and axel in-place put your knee/chest on the top of the wheel and again pully gently but firmly on the axel and check for free-play - there should be none that you can feel, if there is you should replace all the wheel bearing as you can replace just one (good pattern bearings are cheap enough now)
- When the rear wheel out same as before grab the ends of the swing-arm and check for free-play. If you feel any its either a linkage bearing or swing-arm bearing.
- Remove the suspension linkage and using the bolts that go through the roller bearing check for lateral movement, as in up/down or diagonally. If there is any movement the bearings and/or the bolts will need to be replaced. Note - I think the bearings in the linkage may need to be pressed out and new ones pressed in, but don't quote me on this.
- If your wheel bearings and your suspension linkage bearings are fine, then that only leave the swing arm bearings. The only test I can think that 'might' show wear is to hold both arms and try a gently but firm twisting motion. If there is any free-play then replace the bearing and check the swing-arm excel for wear.
It looks like the suspension linkage, I'll do a video tomorrow of it moving if this would help?
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Sure, but I think we will only able to see any play if its 'really' bad. If its just normal wear that requires replacement of any of the bearings you will mostly likely only be able to feel this and not see it.
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Sure, but I think we will only able to see any play if its 'really' bad. If its just normal wear that requires replacement of any of the bearings you will mostly likely only be able to feel this and not see it.
You can see it moving as I have had someone to move it up and down while I had a look
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If you grab the end of the swingarm and lift it will move slightly about 1-2mm that's normal. If it's knocking so you can hear it and moves more than 2mm but less than 4mm it's more than likely the bearings need repacking and/or the seals on the linkages have failed.
It's all about tolerance and there must be some play to allow for the grease, they're 4 bearings if each has 0.5 that's 2mm at the end of the swingarm. Most cases they just need repacking and the seals replacing, these are 12k service items, often not done. You'll have to check each bearing and pin for wear, if they're gritty, rusted, damaged (the needles drop out as you remove the pins) or there's more than 0.5mm play without repacking with grease, they're shot.
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@Gnasher, can the bearing in the linkage arm be pushed out with your fingers..? or is a press-out, press-in affair..?
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@Gnasher, can the bearing in the linkage arm be pushed out with your fingers..? or is a press-out, press-in affair..?
Press in/out they're slight interference fit, they don't require high press weights.
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Done a video of it, hope it works ok?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/photos/share/MIjuq6Qm9CwbeOokeyVi8Siia0GWTtCsf9klOdGOpLn (https://www.amazon.co.uk/photos/share/MIjuq6Qm9CwbeOokeyVi8Siia0GWTtCsf9klOdGOpLn)
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That to me looks like 1-2mm or less, so the bearing just need repacking. Lets see what Gnasher says.
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That to me looks like 1-2mm or less, so the bearing just need repacking.
Mate that's overall movement at the end of the swingarm.
The bearing in the vid looks buggered, it also very likely the pin is too, probably due to seal failure.
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That to me looks like 1-2mm or less, so the bearing just need repacking.
Mate that's overall movement at the end of the swingarm.
The bearing in the vid looks buggered, it also very likely the pin is too, probably due to seal failure.
Ive ordered a used rear shock linkage, do you think I will need a new bolt and collar too?
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It's impossible to say without stripping it. It's also very possible the bearings in your second hand part will be shot too, but you could be lucky and the pin/bush (collar) in the bike could also be worn.
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Do you know where I could get the seals No.24 and collar No.17 from as fowlers don't have them in stock?
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Mate that's overall movement at the end of the swingarm.
Ah yes, doh.
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Do you know where I could get the seals No.24 and collar No.17 from as fowlers don't have them in stock?
Call/email all your local yam dealers and see if any have stock.
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Do a search on ebay for the part number -
- No.17, Collar, (90387-102R4) - https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=90387-102R4&_sacat=0 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=90387-102R4&_sacat=0No.24,)
- No.24, seal, (93109-17071) - https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=93109-17071&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_osacat=0&_odkw=90387-102R4 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=93109-17071&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_osacat=0&_odkw=90387-102R4)
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Try Wemoto, or Yambits. :)
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Try Wemoto, or Yambits. :)
Tried them they don't do them
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I think you'll find OE part only, you'll have to order from a dealer.
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Wemoto.com are showing the seals in stock, £5.62 + £3.00 postage to the UK. Looks like the collar is out of stock though.
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Wemoto.com are showing the seals in stock, £5.62 + £3.00 postage to the UK. Looks like the collar is out of stock though.
Never known them to carry this part or any specific suspension part other than front fork seals and bushes , I can't find the oil seal he needs or the collar he may need?
Bearings yes, but I wouldn't use them, they're a 3rd of the cost for a reason, but that's up to you.
Followers will get most parts, on back order within 24 hrs, might take a little longer due to Covid.
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Have you tried the firm I suggested for your sump washer. MSP.
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I've found the seals, I emailed them about the collar has it said ETA so waiting to hear from them to see how long it would take.
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Do a search on ebay for the part number -
- No.17, Collar, (90387-102R4) - https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=90387-102R4&_sacat=0 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=90387-102R4&_sacat=0No.24,)
- No.24, seal, (93109-17071) - https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=93109-17071&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_osacat=0&_odkw=90387-102R4 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=93109-17071&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_osacat=0&_odkw=90387-102R4)
Checking the link for the colloar above show an ebay link from Fowlers and it says they have 8 in stock atm - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YAMAHA-Collar-90387-102R4-OEM-MT09-MT09TRACER-FJR1300-FZS1000FAZER-TRX850-R1Z/362502188816?fits=UKM_Make%3AYamaha&hash=item5466d06f10:g:XOUAAOSwQn1e-yxc (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YAMAHA-Collar-90387-102R4-OEM-MT09-MT09TRACER-FJR1300-FZS1000FAZER-TRX850-R1Z/362502188816?fits=UKM_Make%3AYamaha&hash=item5466d06f10:g:XOUAAOSwQn1e-yxc)
And the second link has result after result of genuine seal going for peanuts!
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Do a search on ebay for the part number -
- No.17, Collar, (90387-102R4) - https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=90387-102R4&_sacat=0 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=90387-102R4&_sacat=0No.24,)
- No.24, seal, (93109-17071) - https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=93109-17071&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_osacat=0&_odkw=90387-102R4 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=93109-17071&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_osacat=0&_odkw=90387-102R4)
Checking the link for the colloar above show an ebay link from Fowlers and it says they have 8 in stock atm - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YAMAHA-Collar-90387-102R4-OEM-MT09-MT09TRACER-FJR1300-FZS1000FAZER-TRX850-R1Z/362502188816?fits=UKM_Make%3AYamaha&hash=item5466d06f10:g:XOUAAOSwQn1e-yxc (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YAMAHA-Collar-90387-102R4-OEM-MT09-MT09TRACER-FJR1300-FZS1000FAZER-TRX850-R1Z/362502188816?fits=UKM_Make%3AYamaha&hash=item5466d06f10:g:XOUAAOSwQn1e-yxc)
And the second link has result after result of genuine seal going for peanuts!
Mate, can you find these?
Wemoto.com are showing the seals in stock, £5.62 + £3.00 postage to the UK. Looks like the collar is out of stock though.
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Let me call Fowlers just now..
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Mate I'm referring to the parts on Wemoto?
Fowlers will get any Yam part if it's still made and carried as stock in 24 hrs from the EU distribution dept in Holland, if they don't have it.
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Checking the link for the colloar above show an ebay link from Fowlers and it says they have 8 in stock atm - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YAMAHA-Collar-90387-102R4-OEM-MT09-MT09TRACER-FJR1300-FZS1000FAZER-TRX850-R1Z/362502188816?fits=UKM_Make%3AYamaha&hash=item5466d06f10:g:XOUAAOSwQn1e-yxc (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YAMAHA-Collar-90387-102R4-OEM-MT09-MT09TRACER-FJR1300-FZS1000FAZER-TRX850-R1Z/362502188816?fits=UKM_Make%3AYamaha&hash=item5466d06f10:g:XOUAAOSwQn1e-yxc)
Let me call Fowlers just now..
So ebay is lying. Fowlers don't have any stock as Wayne found, but Yamaha Uk do. Lead time from purchase over the phone to arriving through your letter box atm is 7-10 days.
- https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/search/part/90387-102R4 (https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/search/part/90387-102R4)
But found another more linkfor the collor -
https://www.cmsnl.com/products/collar1wg_90387102r4/ (https://www.cmsnl.com/products/collar1wg_90387102r4/)
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Looks like Yamaha have changed how the do business, Fowlers used to be one of the main spares importers they supplied most others. Oh well you learn something every day :)
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I've managed to get everything off, the collar doesn't look to bad just a good clean?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/photos/share/LY46LMYbAsSpXQsmV4yY7KTd4pOJ3CLg0SUIojrksrk (https://www.amazon.co.uk/photos/share/LY46LMYbAsSpXQsmV4yY7KTd4pOJ3CLg0SUIojrksrk)
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Gnasher will correct me -
- if you hold a flat edge to the collar and cant see any daylight between the collar and the edge then your golden. I would also say if you can feel anything with your fingers nails that also a good sign.
- Also those bolts while a bit corroded also look fine - but do the above check on them.
If they are good, they should clean-up with some Autosol.
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I have a suspension linkage coming, should be here on Friday, maybe this will come with some collars,So I'm going to clean everything up while the swing arm is off, also have some new bearings for the pivot shaft which I might put on too.
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You need to put a micrometer on the pin and measure it in several places, as they wear with flat spots and eccentrically. The darken area is wear (lack of grease) often the needles wear more then the pin, looking at the movement and the pin I'd say the bearing is shot. Quick way and only as a guide is clean out the bearing with brake cleaner, once all the old grease is out shake the bearing if it rattles it's shot.
Check the seals, if they're hard/brittle replace them or your new bearing will fail in short order.
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- You need to put a micrometer on the pin and measure it in several places, as they wear with flat spots and eccentrically.
- Quick way and only as a guide is clean out the bearing with brake cleaner, once all the old grease is out shake the bearing if it rattles it's shot.
- Didn't think to think of that, makes sense. But I would think the straight-edge method would also show this..? if you rotated the collar as you checked..?
- Learn something everyday.
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- You need to put a micrometer on the pin and measure it in several places, as they wear with flat spots and eccentrically.
- Quick way and only as a guide is clean out the bearing with brake cleaner, once all the old grease is out shake the bearing if it rattles it's shot.
- Didn't think to think of that, makes sense. But I would think the straight-edge method would also show this..? if you rotated the collar as you checked..?
- Learn something everyday.
It would, but to a point, measuring is the correct way.
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I'm just on with cleaning the swing arm, which seems harder than taking it off the bike :lol and noticed some black tape is that there for a reason?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/photos/share/1pEz3yXRW3KfVDJ6yn9dBg7aMy9kpw6ZaHxquiQNZSQ (https://www.amazon.co.uk/photos/share/1pEz3yXRW3KfVDJ6yn9dBg7aMy9kpw6ZaHxquiQNZSQ)
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Pull the tape off and have a look, probably covering a bit of surface rust.
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Im fairly sure Ive seen the same tape on on one of my FZS1000 swingarms. No idea what its for, I might be covering a small drain hole, so your best just leaving it alone.
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Is this normal for movement of the bolt through the collar?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/photos/share/SvqcoQzpvRdyee77XQzliKEbT408ZtQr1x2DPdD8DRj (https://www.amazon.co.uk/photos/share/SvqcoQzpvRdyee77XQzliKEbT408ZtQr1x2DPdD8DRj)
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Is this normal for movement of the bolt through the collar?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/photos/share/SvqcoQzpvRdyee77XQzliKEbT408ZtQr1x2DPdD8DRj (https://www.amazon.co.uk/photos/share/SvqcoQzpvRdyee77XQzliKEbT408ZtQr1x2DPdD8DRj)
Theres some wear in there
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Theres some wear in there
+1, thats a lot of wear.
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For anyone that needs this info here is a breakdown of the parts and what Wemoto in-stock -
Dogbone mounts:
- Collar 90387-126Y1 - wemoto x2 (AA3666)
- Roller bearing - 93317-21746 - wemoto x0 (AB1057). But Marksman have x21 stock
- seals - 93109-17071 - wemoto x4 (AA1482) But Marksman have x44 stock
- bolts - 90185-12119 - bolts x2 Fowlers (Wemoto dont have any matching bolts)
Monoshock mount:
- Kit - wemoto x2 (AE4797)
- bearing - 93317-31771 -
- coller - 90387-127W0 -
- seals - 93109-17071 -
- Bolt - 90101-10659 - x1 fowlers (Wemoto dont have any matching bolts)
Frame mount:
- collar - 90387-102R4 - wemoto x1 (AD2206)
- bearing - 93317-31771 - wemoto x35 (AB1227)
- Bolt - 90105-10376 - x2 fowlers (Wemoto dont have any matching bolts)
Marksman kinkage bearing and seal kit:- Atm the kit dosen't have collars, but the sale chaps I spoke to will look to get get the collars and all the bolts added to the kit, making it superior to the wemoto kit - link (https://shop.marksman-ind.com/fzs1000-fazer-gen1-linkage-bearing--seal-kit-10364-p.asp)
And talking of Markman, they do a bunch of bearings for the Gen1 - https://shop.marksman-ind.com/index.asp?function=SEARCH (https://shop.marksman-ind.com/index.asp?function=SEARCH)
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For anyone that needs this info here is a breakdown of the parts and what Wemoto in-stock -
Dogbone mounts:
- Collar 90387-126Y1 - wemoto x2 (AA3666)
- Roller bearing - 93317-21746 - wemoto x0 (AB1057). But Marksman have x21 stock
- seals - 93109-17071 - wemoto x4 (AA1482) But Marksman have x44 stock
- bolts - 90185-12119 - bolts x2 Fowlers (Wemoto dont have any matching bolts)
Monoshock mount:
- Kit - wemoto x2 (AE4797)
- bearing - 93317-31771 -
- coller - 90387-127W0 -
- seals - 93109-17071 -
- Bolt - 90101-10659 - x1 fowlers (Wemoto dont have any matching bolts)
Frame mount:
- collar - 90387-102R4 - wemoto x1 (AD2206)
- bearing - 93317-31771 - wemoto x35 (AB1227)
- Bolt - 90105-10376 - x2 fowlers (Wemoto dont have any matching bolts)
Markman kinkage bearing and seal kit:- Atm the kit dosen't have collars, but the sale chaps I spoke to will look to get get the collars and all the bolts added to the kit, making it superior to the wemoto kit - link (https://shop.marksman-ind.com/fzs1000-fazer-gen1-linkage-bearing--seal-kit-10364-p.asp)
And talking of Markman, they do a bunch of bearings for the Gen1 - https://shop.marksman-ind.com/index.asp?function=SEARCH (https://shop.marksman-ind.com/index.asp?function=SEARCH)
Thanks for these, I've ordered a collar and bolt flange
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Hi,
I should be putting the swing arm back on tomorrow, just wondering what torque the bolts should be , someone mentioned 115Nm for the pivot shaft? what about the others on the suspension linkage?