Scottoiler users....

[mr self destruct]

Where have you routed your pipe?


I bought my Fazer 9 months ago and it had one already fitted, with the pipe tied under the swing arm, aimed at the outer face of the rear sprocket at the 6 o'clock position, just like in every online guide I've ever read (letting the oil hit the sprocket rather than the chain and therefore spreading more evenly). 


I've regularly checked my chain tension and kept it around 35mm, but it has needed regular adjustment which indicates wear and stretching, something a scottoiler is meant to reduce.


A couple of days back my chain went a knacker (didn't snap luckily), and it looks like the scottoiler was only lubing one side of it, as the other side is rustier than a 2 year old Skyjet! 


So if you use a scottoiler, do you have any suggestions/advice as to where I should aim my pipe?

[Punkstig]

Dual injector

+1
Also, a scottoiler isn't a 'fit and forget' as many suggest, you still need to check the injector is in the correct position and not blocked, and it's still worth cleaning your chain every few thousand miles and re lubing!

[HarryHornby]

Dual injector

+1
Also, a scottoiler isn't a 'fit and forget' as many suggest, you still need to check the injector is in the correct position and not blocked, and it's still worth cleaning your chain every few thousand miles and re lubing!

+1 for everything Punkstig said.


I used to have a scotoiler on my old bike.  Whenever I changed the engine oil on the bike I kept some of it by in a pot with a paint brush in it.  My routine would be to give the chain a good coat of oil every friday when I got home from work or every time I got home and If I had been riding in the rain.

[Buzz]

I've replaced both of the injectors on mine a number of times using the tubes from cotton buds, a sharp knife to get the injector angle right, a lighter to heat/bend and fatten the end...works a treat!

[Punkstig]

Used engine oil shouldn't really be used on the chain, spoke to my mechanic about this as intended to put my old oil through a coffee filter and use it in oiler but apparently it can be harmful to the rubber O/X rings.
I just use cheap gear oil.
Good comment on the cotton buds!

[stevierst]

I've had them on my past 10 bikes, and I find the single injector needs quite a high flow of oil to get to the inside of the chain. That normally means you get a load on your wheel/tyre.

I do as some others on here, once a month I manually coat the chain in engine oil. I find Scottoil a bit too thin, so i don't use it anymore.  I just put engine oil in it, much better!

I also open up the brass nozzle slightly in the end of the reservoir when using engine oil,it helps with bleeding the system, and gives better control.

[mr self destruct]

All good advice, cheers guys.

How do you go about fitting a second injector? That sounds like the best option so far.
Can I fit a T-piece along the swing arm, or does it have to be at the reservoir end to guarantee even pressure/feed?

[stevierst]

Just buy a dual injector and fit it, a lot less messing about. Had one my bandit and it was quite good. The chain definately got oiled!

[Gnasher]

Used engine oil shouldn't really be used on the chain, spoke to my mechanic about this as intended to put my old oil through a coffee filter and use it in oiler but apparently it can be harmful to the rubber O/X rings.

Change your machanic he hasn't got a clue what he's talking about!

[stevierst]

Change your machanic he hasn't got a clue what he's talking about!

+1 on used oil. I've been using it for years with no I'll effects. It's just a bit muckier than new oil.

[Punkstig]

Not forgetting why we have to change oil in the first place...

[ChristoT]

If its gone through a coffee filter, why not? A friend keeps all his old diesel oil and swears by it for degreasing and releasing stiff nuts & bolts. And I have to agree, works a treat!

[Punkstig]

Then why not stick it back on your engine?

[ChristoT]

I guess the heat cycles reduce its lubricative performance. But I can't see why it can't handle a relatively easy lubrication job of s chain (as opposed to a piston at 10k rpm)

[mickvp]

surely putting it through a coffee filter doesnt remove the carbon buildup from the oil? Ive never tried it before so wouldnt know.

I just stick with the proper scottoil, the blue stuff, but I think you get red stuff which is a different viscosity?

[fireblake]

So, is used engine oil out of my Fazer engine ok to put on my chain via my Scot oiler?

[NorthWestern]

plenty of people do yeah


Mine has the dual injector but scotoil in it from the looks of it (not had to refil it yet - only done 2000 miles since november)

[Punkstig]

Used engine oil contains a few nasty things, unfortunately when mixed with water can chemicaly turn acidic, if you're a unicorn rider then it's not so much of a problem to use on the chain, however, not so helpful if you ride in the rain!

[mickvp]

sorry to highjack a bit, mines only has a single injector. Can I buy a kit to change it do a duel injector kit, or do I need a full new system?

EDIT aha! it appears you can just buy the duel injector from scottoiler for about £25 quid.

[lew600fazer]

plenty of people do yeah


Mine has the dual injector but scotoil in it from the looks of it (not had to refil it yet - only done 2000 miles since november)

If you have done 2000 miles and not had to top up the resivior I think you need to adjust the feed, check your chain I would imagine it will be pretty dry. I used to top up every 1000miles nearly always empty and I was not getting any or little spatter onto the rear wheel/tyre

[NorthWestern]

It has the magnum hcr on it. Plenty left

[stevierst]

Used engine oil contains a few nasty things, unfortunately when mixed with water can chemicaly turn acidic, if you're a unicorn rider then it's not so much of a problem to use on the chain, however, not so helpful if you ride in the rain!

As I've said, I've been using it for years and never had a problem. I'm a 365 biker, and 30k/year. Never had a rotten chain, albeit a very grubby back wheel and swingarm!
Old engine oil has past it's usefulness in an engine, getting compressed, and heated, and cooled, but it's still slippery stuff when it comes out of the sump which is all a chain needs really. It's also pretty well filtered already, but it can't hurt to put it through a coffee filter. Each to their own I suppose, bit I'm too tight to pay for Scottoil that's too thin for what I need all year round, and in all weathers.
Gotta admit that I've got fresh engine oil in my oiler atm (asda cheap crap), but only because I ditched my last mucky oil by mistake in my garage clear out.

[purplebear7]

   Just another thumbs up for the Scotoiler system ...
I've been using them sinse they first surfaced .. many years ago.  Had them on several different types of large bikes .. never bought a chain and can't remember when I last had to adjust one.
 
I've used all kinds of oil in them .. including Chain Saw Oil and old engine oil .. it all does the job.  Navy Training states: A wet chain is a happy chain    .. and they sure ain't talking salt water 
 
Current chain on my Honda CB 1300 S with Sidecar .. that's a lot of extra weight for any chain to be pulling .. has done just over 22.000 miles to date .. not had to aduust anything yet.
 
Best bit of kit for any chain driven bike .. in my oopinion      Stay Safe Guys.     Trev the Polar Bear.

[Slaninar]

Used engine oil contains a few nasty things, unfortunately when mixed with water can chemicaly turn acidic, if you're a unicorn rider then it's not so much of a problem to use on the chain, however, not so helpful if you ride in the rain!

Exactly. I've stopped using used engine oil on the bicycle chain long long time ago - it wasn't good. Used engine oil is good for fire and protecting wood on old fences, shacks etc.

Used engine oil shouldn't really be used on the chain, spoke to my mechanic about this as intended to put my old oil through a coffee filter and use it in oiler but apparently it can be harmful to the rubber O/X rings.

Change your machanic he hasn't got a clue what he's talking about!

He is a MECHANIC, not a chemist. Even if he didn't have any clue about oils, he could still be top notch with repairing/replacing bike parts. Old oil does become more acid like - so not the best thing for rubber.

[Punkstig]

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