£35 in the link I put above.
Buy the lot and then sell on the rest?

Completely missed the price in your link (and just assumed it was the same as the Givi site! Just bought it. Cheers for that!

Gently wheeled the bike out of the garage this morning, gave it one small plunge on the forks with the front brake, then it started first time no problems, on the side stand.
Couple of revs, no choke used at all, and it sat and purred no problem whatsoever?

I've put the bike on the centre stand outside work this morning, so i'll wait and see what happens when I go home later.

So annoying, because it's so unpredictable. 

Unpredictability in a car/bike you use daily is the most frustrating thing. Hope you can get it sorted.

<sup>I have to use full choke when engine is cold all year round, unless it's a really hot day, it always sputters in to life then once it smooths out and the revs rise (about 20 seconds) I can turn the choke off and runs sweet as after that.

How clean are your carbs? Just a thought.</sup>

Not sure about the carbs. I've only had the bike a month and never had them off. If I get the problem again I might start digging further, but whilst it's running ok I think I'll leave everything attached

Quote from: bandit on 30 March 2017, 09:37:56 pm

darrsi,just thinking could it be a electrical fault,connection or broken wire somewhere near the front end linked to the starting circuit,ignition switch if it starts after pumping the forks making the loom move connecting & disconnecting,a mare to trace but worth a look me thinks.

I've considered that but i would've thought it would at least play up once or twice whilst on the journey home, or even cut out, but it's rock solid.once started.

An intermittent issue like this that's resolved via rocking/jiggleing does sound like something's sticking or something's loose.
I guess taking it to a garage may be futile as it might work all the time you're there?

Got home tonight, wheeled my bike to the back of my car (battery in the boot), got the jump leads out and nearly had everything connected up when I thought I'd give it one last try on its own to start without the jump leads connected. No choke, started straight away (not sure where the power came from as the battery was left clicking after I drained it this morning). Not sure whether trying to start it for quite a while on full choke this morning flooded it or there was a problem with starting it on the side stand  (like darrrsi). Switched it off, ran and got my helmet, started up fine again and went on a fairly long ride. No problems at all.

I'll try starting tomorrow on the side stand but with no choke and see what happens.

Is there a quick way to 'un-flood' a bike once it's flooded?

Quote from: ben17484 on 30 March 2017, 02:39:47 pm

Quote from: darrsi on 30 March 2017, 01:28:41 pm

I've still got issues with starting my bike as well after it's been sitting still overnight, or all day at work.
Tried everything so far, and i can't even blame the weather now either, but narrowed it down to be fuel related.


I syphoned out the fuel in the tank the other day, and drained the carbs, and there was no hint whatsoever of water in it.
But still, embarrassing as it is, i have to slosh the fuel about by rocking the bike side to side, then it will start and run perfectly.
If i try just starting it without moving it from the sidestand it simply will not have it?
Totally baffles me, but at least i know how to work around it now. 

Funny you should say that - the only time i've had any issue before was when starting up to come home from work one day on the side stand and it wouldn't start. I then sat on the bike and rocked it and it started ok. I would have had at least over a half a tank of petrol, so it shouldn't have needed the rocking. That's the only time I've had it happen though.


I wonder why that is.

I really don't know but if you find out please don't hesitate to let me know. 

will do - but I'll more than likely just keep rocking it like you do

A quick google suggests I can jump start a motorbike from my car (without the engine running on the car)

Ok, will do cheers. So the chargers aren't like the battery boost ones that you can get for cars that will allow you to start the bike/car with the charger in boost mode whilst attached to the battery terminals?


I've ordered the battery charger which should be through tomorrow.


So even though the bike was turning over for a long time, it could still be the batter that's the issue?

Ok, cheers. I'll try that on the charger.


I did wonder if I'd flooded it. Would you not use the choke at all in the spring/summer/autumn then? This is my first non fuel injected car/bike.

Sorted.


It's pretty easy. Simply replace the relay (not sure about the details of the relay as it came with the indicators) and that's it. Couldn't be easier really.

Apologies as this has probably been asked numerous times before, but I'm after a guide on replacing my indicators with LEDs.
I've found this post: http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,38.0.html but the last few pictures aren't working.
The text is pretty good in that post, so I'd imagine I could get by with it, but was wondering if there's another guide somewhere with all of the pictures?


Cheers,
Ben

Very good point - I wouldn't have thought of that! I'll come back the long way from the trye place. Thanks again.

Just to add to that - I would like a 365 day a year tyre but would imagine I'll do a whole lot more miles over the next 8 or so months than over the winter month's, so would choose a great summer trye that can be used a bit in the winter over a pretty good all rounder if that makes sense?