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Messages - rw711
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« on: 23 February 2017, 09:57:05 pm »
Shameless bump! - still for sale - price dropped, offers considered etc.
When the weather improves may start breaking. Would be a shame though
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« on: 10 February 2017, 07:24:48 pm »
Thanks Tommy - I'd certainly consider another, I think you are right in this has been an exception to the rule as from what I had read up prior to buying it I was under the impression that they were generally unbrakable in the engine department, and I'd only consider a cheap bike if it was of such a reputation . Maybe they did no something about it , but hey if you buy a 500 quid bike you have to keep with the mindset that you might have a bargain or you might have balls-up - the thing is I will get most of it back even if I have to break it. I'll stick with my ZZR for now as it still in Tax & Test and is not really wanting for anything, I've also kind of realised it is better for weather protection and cleaning time having only taken the fazer for one ride on a wet & mucky road Wait till I've more money to spend (like a couple of grand) and a newer (or nicer) one could come in I quite like the thous'
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« on: 09 February 2017, 09:45:38 pm »
After alot of thinking about it I have decided that I cannot really commit further money & time as I dont have the skills to start stripping engine or replacing I have decided to sell on the bike, for what I paid : will put the MOT & fixes down to experience . Appreciate all the help offered - bike available here http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,21815.0.htmlmay break if enough interest.
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« on: 09 February 2017, 09:35:12 pm »
https://www.gumtree.com/p/other-motorbikes-scooters/2002-51-yamaha-fazer-fzs600.-blue.-2018-mot-but-spares-repairs/1215667972PICS and Gumtree Ad. May break if enough interest. Its a nice bike, I would say too nice to break but has engine problem, ( http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,21682.0.html) - the simplest solution would be a replacement engine, never did get to bottom of problems, but it is probably a valve seal/gasket - it is def. blowing oil through , possibly also coolant too, oil was emulsified but no oil in coolant, Ignore Gumtree price it can go cheaper to folks on here, will take £550 or near - if cant get that will break it. -Be aware it needs collecting from Campbeltown (West Highlands- approx 3 hrs drive WEST of Glasgow)
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« on: 22 January 2017, 08:52:37 pm »
How did you rule out the head gasket?
We thought that there should be oil in the coolant if it was the head gasket.
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« on: 21 January 2017, 09:53:37 pm »
I'd suggest pulling the lowest hose off just to be sure that there's no gunk in there. Yeah the 2 hoses lowest at nearside going into pump. I think that we have ruled out head gasket and too much oil - - these failed seals ideas sound more likely to me - the bike was definitely passing oil into the exhaust and smelling like it was burning oil (smoky exhaust) though it wasnt really affecting how it was performing. Have to say I am not really mechanically savvy enough to start stripping down inside the actual engine, really got this on the strength of the engine looking and sounding ok at the time and thinking I could fix the other issues - Ive talked to my friend and a few others that sometimes help and thinking that replacing engine even if it is a straight swap (not actually stripping the insides) would probably be beyond our abilitites. Likely to find its way on to the classifieds or get broken up and sold I think.
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« on: 21 January 2017, 12:47:35 am »
You've got to look at all the plugs and I think before refilling it needs a flush through , you don't want any of the internal oil ways getting bunged up. Just out of curiosity did you notice if the coolant level was low and by how much before you drained it ? One positive by the looks of it is that oil didn't get into your coolant. Has it had an oil filter fitted recently ??? Either by yourself or previous owner ?
Yep this was as far as we got - could do with checking other plugs, hard to tell with coolant - being new to the bike I didnt realise there was a seperate header tank ( on the kawasaki the filler and header tank were at the same place) also plenty of coolant spilt before I could get the drip tray under . The oil filter and oil was what was in the bike when I got it, apart from the top-ups I did out on the road. I was going to do the full service after the Mot, had all this not happened!
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« on: 20 January 2017, 11:41:33 pm »
Well here's some more pics:
Oil like milky coffee, did not notice any metallic swarfs in it Coolant seems normal Plug seems normal, we got 1 & 4 out not tried the inner ones yet.
Difficult to decide whether to try refilling and see what happens? - or do something else.
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« on: 20 January 2017, 08:59:57 pm »
Well I drained the oil and coolant. The oil was milky but c oolant clear. Gonna have a look at the plugs now.
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« on: 20 January 2017, 08:24:03 pm »
Well there is no oil in the coolant. Level was down as couldn't see coolant in filler neck.
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« on: 18 January 2017, 11:54:07 pm »
Was the bike on the centrestand / level ground when filling and ( hope your not offended at this RW ) was the engine switched off and the remaining oil that was circulating around the engine left to settle before you started to fill with from what you approximate about 1.8 litres ? If the answer was no to the above that could mean a big overfill
No problem, yeh the first time was at the garage, it had been stood on centrestand for maybe 10 mins or more as I had to buy the oil then go get a lend of some pliers as the filler cap seems to go quite tight, even though I tried to avoid overtightening. At this time I would say it'd been nursed along with the oil light on for approx 4 or 5 miles. The MOT place was only about half a mile from this garage. It lost quite a bit just through leakage whilst sat waiting for the MOT - the light came back on when I was say another 3 miles after leaving the MOT - this was possibly a bit quick as put oil in here at the roadside with engine off but it'd only been off a couple of mins -this is when it started reving of its own accord and I decided to call it a day. so possibly that WAS an over fill but I kill switched the engine and only briefly started it for the Rec. man and kill switched it again - its not been run since.
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« on: 18 January 2017, 11:40:57 pm »
Was reading elsewhere on the forum that fitting 1000 mirrors to the 600 is a good mod for visability.
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« on: 18 January 2017, 11:32:31 pm »
I would go for that - each time I topped up I would of guessed from the amount left in can it was taking a little less than a litre to make the light go off - I only topped it twice before getting the recovery, I have a little bit more than half a 4l container left,
It'll have to come out - cos all I could get was car oil, but reckon that was better than no or very low oil
Edit just looked its a five litre can and about 2 thirds to 3 quarters left
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« on: 18 January 2017, 10:38:10 pm »
As it was so cheap you might want to cut your losses and buy an engine for a couple of hundred £. Then break this one in your own time and repair or sell the good bits to get some money back.
Yep that is what I am looking to do now. I havent yet had chance to look at the coolant, I was back at work today then mopping up at my friends where the bike was parked as oil was continuing to drip out of the joint at the silencer - we reckoned it wasnt going to drop anymore last night as it had not been run - but it obviously did Hoping to get a look at the coolant and drain the remaining oil tomorrow eve. as for oil level before any of this took place, it looked to be ok in the sight glass - I only topped up when the light came up, and a bit at a time checking & stopping when the light def stayed off? - the idea was to get the mot then do a oil & filter change anyway as didnt know when it was last done - the coolant was checked when leak fixed and topped up. It hadnt over heated in the time I have had it, though thats not to say it hasnt in the past. Will come back to thread when had a look at the coolant.
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« on: 18 January 2017, 12:17:11 am »
Noticed from your earlier posts looks like you've only recently bought the Fazer. Any comeback on the seller?
Not really, it was very cheap!! - ran and sounded ok , there was a coolant leak at time which was negotiated - I suppose if this coolant leak had been there a long time it could have contributed to the head gasket going but pretty tenuous. The engine otherwise seemed good and sounded fine no rattles or odd noises/behaviour at the time- and sold as seen of course. Even if I have to get a new head or even engine it will still have been a bargain, but just could do without it as had a good look over the bike and sorted the problem areas, as MOT proved - if it hadnt of been for the oil leaking from the exhaust it would have got a clear pass no advisories. It had only done 300 miles since last MOT (done may - 2015 exp may 2016) - IN fact mileage has been low right through mot history - as far as can be traced back.
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« on: 17 January 2017, 11:36:45 pm »
Pics on Facebook page. Will put on here later
Pics added.... Here's hoping that it is nothing more serious than the head gasket, it is indeed wet white gunk as opposed to dry : the bike would have passed the MOT without advisories if it hadnt been for the oil leak - Everything is pointing to that though I need to check coolant level/condition still as it was well dark and me well pissed off by time we got back here! The guy who recovered it knew about bikes, had a few of his own and he was reckoning that most of the other symptoms could be explained by it: The rattling through loss of oil viscosity, oil pressure light coming on even though oil still in
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« on: 17 January 2017, 05:43:32 pm »
Pics on Facebook page. Will put on here later
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« on: 17 January 2017, 04:20:59 pm »
I live in the Highlands our local mot does bikes but the guy who does bikes works away too. So it's the next nearest as a lot of places only do cars.
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« on: 17 January 2017, 03:50:37 pm »
There's engine rattle and obvious oil consumption but no other obvious performance decrease (woolly due to carbsome needing done, but it was like that before). Doesn't make sense to ride it though in case further damage caused. I can't upload pics on my phone. But will when I get back to pc
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« on: 17 January 2017, 03:38:53 pm »
It's not straightforward as I live 100 miles from the test station. On topping oil up the bike started revving hard. So assuming it is running on the engine oil ? Waiting for recovery. Wondering if easiest thing to do would be looking out for a second hand engine. Got some pics exhaust and leaks. Will try up load
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« on: 17 January 2017, 02:34:56 pm »
It passed! No advisory except the bloody oil leak 😂
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« on: 17 January 2017, 02:14:09 pm »
About 53k recorded... assuming original engine?
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« on: 17 January 2017, 02:07:00 pm »
Or decideas to get it recovered?
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« on: 17 January 2017, 01:56:35 pm »
OK so I got the thing booked in for mot today. Riding the the test centre a big rattle made itself present and I have a lot of oil being blown down the exhaust. Also a bit of white stuff in the baffle?
Gonna see if they will mot it any way now I am here. Got a big can off oil to top up for ride back.
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