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General / Re: IF THERE IS YET ANOTHER VOTE/REFERENDUM
« on: Today at 06:35:03 PM »
Here's my input  :lol


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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Hand guards
« on: 13 January 2019, 04:41:57 PM »
Maybe turn the phone sideways and stand back a bit?
All looks a bit tight still, but hard to tell?

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Oil pressure switch
« on: 12 January 2019, 11:57:52 PM »
My blind 2.8 litres, then forgetting about it for 4000 miles as long as there isn't any leaks is starting to sound like the way forward  :lol

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Update to my situation:

Despite cleaning the offending carb as best I could, cylinder No4 would still not fire, so bit the bullet and managed to find a complete set from a 2003 at a local bike breakers for £60. Installed them tonight and it's running nicely on 4 cylinders now. Only issue is the TPS on the replacement carbs is showing 10000 and not 5000 when tested, whereas the old one was spot on. Still no big deal as I will adjust it when I dig out the security torx bits.

So thanks to all that offered advice.

One other thing, when I took off the float chamber lid to access the jets, the small one next to the main jet looks as though there is no hole. I assume this is correct as I checked the same one in the next carb and that was just the same. Anybody know why it is blank ?


TPS might just need a simple adjustment, but once done keep checking it every few days to see if remains on the 5000 mark.
If it doesn't then it could be on its way out, one of mine stayed on the 10,000 mark.
If it is that, don't buy a used one, just get a new one, there are plenty on Ebay for £65-£75.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Oil pressure switch
« on: 12 January 2019, 08:39:49 PM »
No body has mentioned that when the oil is warm it will have expanded and therefore higher in the window than when cold.
Must admit I've never noticed the difference and anyway my light has never come on so I don't get concerned about it.
I still change the oil at approx 4,000 miles and check the level now and again, but have never had to top it up between oil changes. Bike now done about 55k.
Doesn't take much oil from first appearing in the window to going beyond the top, so a bit of care required at the final stages of filling.[size=78%]  [/size]

Expansion will be minimal. So ignore it.
Oil will be up around the top of the engine when warm rather than all in the sump. This is why it is LOWER in the window when warm and why the manual says to check it when WARM


The reason to wait a few minutes after warming up is so that most of that oil drains back into the sump.
Just for interest the increase in volume is :-
Volumetric expansion coefficient of engine oil is 0.00070 per deg C
Oil capacity say 2.7ltrs = 2,700c.c.
Lets say temperature difference from cold to warm is 40 deg C
Change in oil volume = 0.00070 x 2700 x 40 = 75.6c.c.
To use a previous measuring scale that’s about three normal egg cups worth.
I’ve no idea what that difference in volume represents in terms of height in the site glass and never bothered about it. Maybe I’ll have to check the oil level when cold and then again when warm after standing a few minutes and see if my calculation theory is total garbidge.  ;)


Been a while for my bike now but from memory when my bike was cold the oil was above the window.

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General / Re: Today's "What Gets My Goat"
« on: 12 January 2019, 04:45:39 PM »
We have an unwanted cat that visits Sharp Hall and I keep a few small old soft potatoes by the backdoor to throw at it. I have little chance of hitting the cat so I throw them at the fence to make a bang and they fall down into the ornamental border on the East lawns.  An unexpected bonus last year was that I ended up with a little crop of potatoes that had grown from the ones that I had launched.


What you need is one of these.  :)












Haven't seen one of them since I was a kid , its a wonder they are still allowed to sell them.



You probably have a higher chance of being shot by a police sniper these days by using one, but they're still about  :2guns

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General / Re: Today's "What Gets My Goat"
« on: 12 January 2019, 01:09:26 PM »
We have an unwanted cat that visits Sharp Hall and I keep a few small old soft potatoes by the backdoor to throw at it. I have little chance of hitting the cat so I throw them at the fence to make a bang and they fall down into the ornamental border on the East lawns.  An unexpected bonus last year was that I ended up with a little crop of potatoes that had grown from the ones that I had launched.


What you need is one of these.  :)


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General / Re: Today's "What Gets My Goat"
« on: 12 January 2019, 01:05:11 PM »
You sure it wasn't a fox

I hope to hell not, it would have been a bloody big fox...!

There used to be a couple of urban foxes who would jump on the roof of a neighbour's shed and set off their security lights and they'd just sit there in the spotlight going "look at us", but I haven't seen them for years.


They do seem to have a vast amount of food to scavenge these days so i wouldn't be surprised if they had an oversized dump.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Oil pressure switch
« on: 12 January 2019, 01:01:28 PM »
What about a dipstick?

Unrelated to the thread, but I owned a Citroen car several years ago that had a wire dipstick, but with a plastic tip on the end with the level lines on it.
They were well known for the tip snapping off way down in the dipstick tube as it negotiated it's way around a bend in the tube.
It was due to the constant heating/cooling weakening it. You had to buy a new dipstick, then as you inserted it the broken bit got pushed down into the sump. The oil strainer prevented it going anywhere or doing any harm. Daft though eh :rolleyes
Yep - I had that car. And I would push dipstick down inch by inch and as I did I would let it rotate as it wanted to. I think the way down there was a contorted route that did not help the plastic bit on the end.


I bet you sold it to him?  :lol

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: What have you done to your FZS600 bike today
« on: 12 January 2019, 11:32:28 AM »
I think the diameter of the studs is too small. If they had used M8 studs instead of M6 they would have been a lot stronger. Also using the open ended nuts was a bad idea because all the muck from road clogs up the threads. I think it's nearly always the center two studs behind the wheel that snap. Even if you crack the nut free and get a few turns out of it they can still shear because they bind up from dirt and rust on threads because the nut is open. Also whatever steel they made the studs and the whole exhaust from wasn't good enough. It rusts out too easily. I know the Fazer was a budget commuter when it was sold but Yamaha really cheaped out on the exhaust system


Had a chat with my mechanic at the time and apparently they did upgrade to M8 on newer Yamaha bikes after they realized it was becoming a problem.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Oil pressure switch
« on: 12 January 2019, 09:14:47 AM »
No body has mentioned that when the oil is warm it will have expanded and therefore higher in the window than when cold.
Must admit I've never noticed the difference and anyway my light has never come on so I don't get concerned about it.
I still change the oil at approx 4,000 miles and check the level now and again, but have never had to top it up between oil changes. Bike now done about 55k.
Doesn't take much oil from first appearing in the window to going beyond the top, so a bit of care required at the final stages of filling.[size=78%]  [/size]

Expansion will be minimal. So ignore it.
Oil will be up around the top of the engine when warm rather than all in the sump. This is why it is LOWER in the window when warm and why the manual says to check it when WARM


I was gonna say the same, the whole point of oil is to lubricate under extreme conditions so if it changed its quality or texture a lot under different temperatures then it would become kind of unreliable.
You'll always get a cold engine and a hot engine but it has to be designed to withstand all of this, hence the reason it's graded between temperature lowers/uppers.

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General / Re: Today's "What Gets My Goat"
« on: 12 January 2019, 04:53:07 AM »
Some filthy bugger decided to take a crap in the alleyway that leads to my shed. I didn't notice, ran over it, then, when I wheeled the bike back into the shed, smelled something revolting :(
I then had to spend 10 minutes hosing their crap off the wheel, then mixing up a load of bleach and water to clean the concrete floor of the shed.  :2guns


Does make you reminisce back to the good old days when you'd be lucky to go a week without stepping in dog shit, or biting into fruit that didn't have a maggot in it.  :lol


You sure it wasn't a fox, those screaming kinky bastards have a bad habit of leaving large turds near my house. I swear it sounded like someone being murdered outside my bedroom window again last night, but as it's their sex party season at the moment i've kind of got used to the sudden blood curdling shrieking.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: What have you done to your FZS600 bike today
« on: 12 January 2019, 04:42:58 AM »
Changed the original headers for New delkivic ones today. Quite an easy job to do. O was suprised at the bore difference compared to the original.
Easy as long as you don't snap a stud!


I can't believe how easy that is to do, after my last experience taking the headers off. I broke two with very little force.  :'(

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Oil pressure switch
« on: 12 January 2019, 04:36:30 AM »
The manual has to give a method that's accurate and covers all scenarios. They can't say check it from cold because a cold bike that was park two hours ago is going to show a different level to a cold bike that was parked a year ago even if they have the same amount of oil in them.   The only way to cover all scenarios is to say start it up, turn it off, let it settle and then check it. They can't even give exact times to start it up because the bike could be parked in -10 weather or it could be in 40 degree weather so the viscosity of the oil would be totally different. Saying start it for two minutes and turn it off for a minute then check wouldn't work. The way they say to do it is the only way that covers all scenarios which is what the manual has to do.
That (unfortunately) makes far too much sense. But I think may be the answer.How come there not so much angst among car owners.   


Because they're dipsticks  :lol

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Oil pressure switch
« on: 11 January 2019, 07:08:21 PM »
The reason is so you don't need to wait an hour after running the engine to check the oil level.


That sounds like the most logical reason to me.
The most logical way - if the window would allow is for it to be from cold which would be BEFORE you rode it or started it. Rather than start it - warm it - stop it- wait a few mins - look at it - start it and ride.


As i said, a bigger, or better still maybe an upright rectangular window similar to what you get on the back of oil containers, rather than round, so you can see all levels from cold, or when warm would make far more sense.
Once you know how much oil you have in there, after a change for example, then you can see both cold or warm levels then know if it’s right or wrong at a glance.
I must say though that the window on these sumps are pretty shite.......especially my one.  :lol

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Oil pressure switch
« on: 11 January 2019, 05:07:42 PM »
I think the reason is this. If the engine is cold - that means that all the oil that can flow back down has done so. After a short warm up and a couple of mins wait - there is still oil around all the parts that has yet to drip back down into the sump window area. I does seem a bit rubbish to have to read the level via this procedure as it just says a few mins after warm up but the longer you warm it the hotter the oil which will more readily/ quickly drip back down to the window area then the longer you leave it the more oil will drip down so there are too many variables. I would be much better if the procedure was from cold - cutting out all those variables.This would mean that the window would have to be higher as when cold all the oil that will do has dripped down and is near or above the top. I wonder if the read from warm procedure is just because they could not fit a window higher.


Maybe a slightly bigger viewing window would cater for everyone.
I do mine from the bottle now anyway, no window for me, and as long as there's no leaks then i don't need to do anything until i change it again, which i personally prefer to do every 4000 miles, even though it's recommended at every 6000 miles. Works for me, and the bike doesn't complain.  :lol

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Oil pressure switch
« on: 11 January 2019, 05:02:27 PM »
The reason is so you don't need to wait an hour after running the engine to check the oil level.


That sounds like the most logical reason to me.

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General / Re: Today's "What Gets My Goat"
« on: 11 January 2019, 01:38:32 PM »
Quote
I was rough over most of the Xmas holidays i had, about 10 days, then thought it was all getting better about 2 days before returning, then as soon as i'm back at work i'm ill again.
On two separate days, a week apart, i was at home watching telly then just randomly felt queasy then unexpectedly threw up, about 3 or 4 times?
Now i'm on antibiotics for a chest infection, and have a tickly cough i simply cannot get rid of that is making me cough so much i've strained the odd stomach muscle a few times. Plus the coughing at night in bed is keeping me awake at all hours making me knackered during the day.
The thing is i was talking to 3 people at work yesterday and they've all had the same problems as i've described too, so it's still doing the rounds.  :groan



 Cos I have a touch of asthma, whenever I get a cold I often get a hellish cough.  That last cold was bad, I tweaked a couple of muscles in my chest coughing and I can still feel them two weeks later.
You could try pholcodine linctus bp cough mixture.
Not recommended if you are still bringing up lots of phlegm.  And maybe check with Doctor or chemist as you are on anti-biotics. (VNA is not a doctor and I do not accept any liability if this shit kills you – consult medical pros etc etc)
There has been talk of banning the stuff (readily available, drinkable and addictive), and I’ve found chemists will try and recommended all sorts of other products rather than sell this old fashioned stuff.  As the name suggests it contains an an opioid which handily acts as a cough suppressant. It can make you drowsy.
You can get it over the counter for less than 3 quid a bottle.
https://www.medicines.org.uk/emc/product/4921/smpc
 


I had a 5 minute coughing episode just now at work, simply caused by a tickly cough, but it's uncontrollable, and I swear It feels like I'm about to fracture a rib from coughing so hard.
Very annoying.
Might look into that cough medicine, even though I'm not normally a fan of stuff that makes you drowsy. No way I could take it during the day, but I was up at 3am again this morning having a coughing fit, and I'm getting very bored with it all now. Looks familiar so have probably used it before anyway.






I seriously think you need some steroid treatment with your antibiotics.



I got hold of some of the above mentioned cough linctus yesterday.
Took some about half hour before going to bed last night, and woke up 1 minute before my alarm went off this morning, which is very rare for me, i normally wake up well before it goes off.
No coughing during the night, and my first uninterrupted nights kip in at least a month, plus i don’t feel knackered at work.
Cheers VNA, credit where credit is due.  :thumbup

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Hand guards
« on: 11 January 2019, 01:28:11 PM »
I inherited my '03 with hand-guards and they seem to fit fine, it's gone through 6 MOTs and no one ever mentioned anything.  No idea of the make but they look very plasticky, I guess they 'just about' touch the fairing but it's never given me an issue.  Since I changed to Renthals they've not been secured to the ends of the bars, just on the brake/clutch bolts, but they don't flap around much. 
I can't imagine riding without them in winter, even with my heated grips... I'll try and get some photos over the weekend.


You MUST have your fairing positioned more forward somehow, i can’t see how it would be possible otherwise?
Absolutely no chance on my bike.  :\



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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Oil pressure switch
« on: 11 January 2019, 01:25:56 PM »
You asked for help, and i gave you the answer!


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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Oil pressure switch
« on: 11 January 2019, 01:18:18 PM »
Midway between the two lines with a cold engine switched off means not enough oil.
Go on then, I'll bite.
Midway between the two lines that Yamaha cast into the casing is not correct?
Has anyone told Yamaha this?
Is there a recall to get replacement recalibrated casings?


Read the manual, and it will tell you run the engine before checking the level, as i said earlier.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Oil pressure switch
« on: 10 January 2019, 01:24:07 PM »
At some points in my ownership, the level has fallen so you couldn't see it in the window, no light came on.
This is midway between the two lines and the light comes on, strange.

Didn't come on today, perhaps it was too cold for the light to make an appearance.  :D

Next oil change I'll take the sender out and check it over, until then, a bit of insulating tape should sort out the distracting lamp.


Midway between the two lines with a cold engine switched off means not enough oil.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Rear shock durability
« on: 10 January 2019, 01:05:06 PM »
How do you know if the shock is bad? 

I've been riding on 2 different Fazers for the last 7 years and I don't have a clue whether the shock was bad or not.


You soon know if the oil leaks, i was going around corners riding on the spring, it felt like the rear tyre was badly sliding.

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