Fazer Owners Club - Unofficial
General => General => Topic started by: Frosties on 21 September 2015, 06:06:10 pm
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This shouldn't be as long winded as a "which bike" because I've got it down to 2.
90 odd miles a day and with a full 35 litre top box and big heavy ruck sack strapped to the pillion, up to London and back all year round.
Bit of a Brucie in that I can now keep the Tiger and the Fazer in addition to a new work bike.
The choices are:-
2007 - 2010 CBF1000 with ABS. Should be a good commuter with comfort and reliability and have the ability for a bit of fun and touring.
2007 - 2010 700cc Deauville with ABS. Should be a good commuter especially with shaft drive and better weather protection. All day comfy, no fun (FZS for that) but will tour AND will carry a bit more kit in the side panniers and front storage bins.
I know someone on here has a biffer but will take all views on board as I know no one who owns either. Any experiences of any description greatly appreciated. Please remember this is to be a tool for work.
Looking forward to the slagging of my choices :lol . Examples below
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201509036583807?search-target=usedbikes&price-to=3500&page=1&sort=locasc&radius=70&keywords=abs&postcode=rg414as&logcode=p (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201509036583807?search-target=usedbikes&price-to=3500&page=1&sort=locasc&radius=70&keywords=abs&postcode=rg414as&logcode=p)
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201509076705804?search-target=usedbikes&make=honda&model=cbf1000&price-to=3500&page=1&radius=70&postcode=rg414as&keywords=abs&sort=locasc&logcode=p (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201509076705804?search-target=usedbikes&make=honda&model=cbf1000&price-to=3500&page=1&radius=70&postcode=rg414as&keywords=abs&sort=locasc&logcode=p) BUT WOULD TAKE PANNIERS OFF
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I guess the Deauville will be cheaper to run. My Dad has been very happy with both of his (had a 650 before the current one), both have done over 100k with very little work. With the large pannier lids it can carry a lot.
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Cannot for the life of me see the need for either, when you have a FZS600 that does all and more :eek
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Cannot for the life of me see the need for either, when you have a FZS600 that does all and more :eek
Its purely for the ABS. After the shunt up town with the van recently in the wet, a little switch has triggered in my head that for the mileage I do it's now a must have - especially in London.
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I have a CBF1000 and had the FZS600 previously (with an ST1100 inbetween).
The CBF is very much like the FZS but with much more torque. Great for riding anywhere but no need to play around the gears unless you want to. I have not commuted on mine but have used it to go to France a few times.
Given the choice of the Dullville or the CBF I would go for the CBF.
Alternators are a weak point on the CBF. Not sure what common issues there are on the Dullville.
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If its just for a commute, cheap and reliable wins , i commute on an R1 into london(ish)but when its snowing or icy i take the Cg125 , i only have about a 20 mile round trip and can get away with a ruck sack, i would guess the [size=0px]Deauville would be easier to filter in traffic ??[/size] :)
Mark
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A lad at my work has a 06 plate Cbf1000 as a 365 bike. It looks like it's rotting away!
My Fazer(s) were coping better with the year round weather with regards to the corrosion.
Might be a one off, but something to bear in mind.
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Given the choice of the Dullville or the CBF I would go for the CBF.
Alternators are a weak point on the CBF. Not sure what common issues there are on the Dullville.
I've read a bit like you say re the alternators so was planning a rewind which would give me an extra 25% capacity. Cheers BB
If its just for a commute, cheap and reliable wins. I would guess the [size=0px]Deauville would be easier to filter in traffic [/size]
Mark
Agree with cheap and reliable Mark as I do about 23 - 25k a year so no new bike here - £3500 tops. The Deauville being easier to filter with is actually the one main area i can't work out. Cheers Mark
A lad at my work has a 06 plate Cbf1000 as a 365 bike. It looks like it's rotting away!
My Fazer(s) were coping better with the year round weather with regards to the corrosion.
Might be a one off, but something to bear in mind.
Interesting Stevie, thanks. Got to agree that my Fazer has faired far better over the last 2 years than my Tiger.
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I wouldn't be so sure about the Dullville being easier to filter with. It has panniers built in which make it wider at the back.
The CBF is just like a fazer to ride. I have my sons FZS600 and my CBF1000 to ride back to back. The CBF is only wider in the tank area. Bars and back end are about the same.
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Before i got the cg125 for winter work i looked at a new KTM200 Duke £3000 new otr 0% finance 2 years warranty and breakdown (i think ) , the only reason i didn't get it was i only do 20 miles a day max and couldn't justify a new bike that sits in the garage most of the year, when they get to about £1800 second hand im having one :D
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KTM-Duke-200-new-bargain-and-0-finance-/121580297533?hash=item1c4ec01d3d (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KTM-Duke-200-new-bargain-and-0-finance-/121580297533?hash=item1c4ec01d3d)
Mark :)
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I wouldn't be so sure about the Dullville being easier to filter with. It has panniers built in which make it wider at the back.
The CBF is just like a fazer to ride. I have my sons FZS600 and my CBF1000 to ride back to back. The CBF is only wider in the tank area. Bars and back end are about the same.
That was my thinking BB re the Deauville, thought someone might put me straight but you've got a Biffer and a Fazer so will go with your thoughts. Biffer it is then.....and I've seen the one I want last night - not putting a link up 'cos I need it :lol
Before i got the cg125 for winter work i looked at a new KTM200 Duke £3000 new otr 0% finance 2 years warranty and breakdown (i think ) , the only reason i didn't get it was i only do 20 miles a day max and couldn't justify a new bike that sits in the garage most of the year, when they get to about £1800 second hand im having one :D
[url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KTM-Duke-200-new-bargain-and-0-finance-/121580297533?hash=item1c4ec01d3d[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KTM-Duke-200-new-bargain-and-0-finance-/121580297533?hash=item1c4ec01d3d[/url])
Mark :)
Nice bikes Mark but just wouldn't suit my needs - need a rack, be able to sit at 90mph all year round and take a 6' 4" rider in comfort. Cheers anyway fella.
Will post pics of my Biffer when i get it.
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Frosties....check out the what did you do with whatever else you got thread....got a bit of a scare on my mates cbf today....he reckons from the forums that this is fairly well known but apparently they need new shocks.....bbrown....obviously you know far more about them than i do.....but his particular bike was like nothing ive ever ridden...totally scary....granted im a youth and dont have a great deal of bike experience but id take an FZS600 over it any day in any situation.......appreciate they arent physically that big but i felt like i was on a goldwing :lol ........dunno what i expected...i suppose somewhere between my fzs600 and my fz1.....but how wrong was i........he did have a squared off rear tyre but theres no way that was the cause of the rear end feeling.
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A squared off rear makes a huge difference to the handling.
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A squared off rear makes a huge difference to the handling.
He's booked in for a new one on Friday now as i pointed out to him how square it was....perhaps it makes so much more difference on this bike with the combo of long wheelbase and small 16 tyre i dunno......well hopefully.......i was shitting myself.......will find out what he reckons after Friday.
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No doubt in my mind, I'd go for the 1000, it's newer, it's bigger, it's just better in so many ways.
While both will mile crunch, you'll have more smiles on the 1000, especially when your loading it up as I think the smaller bike would struggle with handling etc fully loaded.
Well, that's my two pence worth :)
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with the combo of long wheelbase and small 16 tyre
That would explain it. They are meant to have 17" wheels on like the Fazer :pokefun
Handling wise, I find my CBF to be like a heavier FZS600. I do seem to notice if the tyres have dropped in pressure though. Doesn't really affect the handling but you can sense it isn't as it should be.
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Did you get it then ?
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No, I sat back for too long making my mind up for 2/3 days. The bloke who viewed it at 5pm the other day bought it straight off :'( . Taught me a lesson, now's the time to buy so if I want it I need to get my arse in gear. :wall
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Personally I never got on with the CBF. I looked for one for my all round bike after my 3rd FZS1000 and ended up buying a CB1300 instead. Did not like the handling of the CBF at all.
"Almost" bought a Deauville but the CB1300 had a bit more wow factor and ultimately I did not think there was much point in buying a bike I found uninspiring to ride. Ran the CB for 3 years including through the winters.
One thing I was not impressed with was the overall Honda build quality and whilst the ABS was pretty good I had to strip the brakes every month or they seized up. Ended up going back to the Fazers with a FZ6 for the winter and an FZ1 for the summer.
I'm sure if you have set your mind on the CBF then another will come up in the coming months ;)
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I know you said you were looking for a bike with abs and the bike im showing doesnt have it-however they did make make them with abs so if you looked around.......
BMW 1100s
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-R1100S-2002-1800-/121768295040?hash=item1c59f4ba80 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-R1100S-2002-1800-/121768295040?hash=item1c59f4ba80)
121768295040
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Update on my cbf moan......my mate gets a new tyre today & he just ordered a nitron shock via ebay......look forward to getting another shot to see if it is no longer riding like a 1940 s vintage bike
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Update on my cbf moan......my mate gets a new tyre today & he just ordered a nitron shock via ebay......look forward to getting another shot to see if it is no longer riding like a 1940 s vintage bike
Are you sure it's not being rode by a 1940's vintage bloke? :lol :pokefun
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I know you said you were looking for a bike with abs and the bike im showing doesnt have it-however they did make make them with abs so if you looked around.......
BMW 1100s
[url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-R1100S-2002-1800-/121768295040?hash=item1c59f4ba80[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-R1100S-2002-1800-/121768295040?hash=item1c59f4ba80[/url])
121768295040
A BMW :eek . Not sure I could stand the shame :lol Wouldn't get any biker nods either :rolleyes
On a serious note....I am looking at this below. At lot of money for the age (could be a money pit) but there's something about it I like - don't know what though.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262053291875?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262053291875?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)
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Personally I never got on with the CBF. I looked for one for my all round bike after my 3rd FZS1000 and ended up buying a CB1300 instead. Did not like the handling of the CBF at all.
"Almost" bought a Deauville but the CB1300 had a bit more wow factor and ultimately I did not think there was much point in buying a bike I found uninspiring to ride. Ran the CB for 3 years including through the winters.
One thing I was not impressed with was the overall Honda build quality and whilst the ABS was pretty good I had to strip the brakes every month or they seized up. Ended up going back to the Fazers with a FZ6 for the winter and an FZ1 for the summer.
I'm sure if you have set your mind on the CBF then another will come up in the coming months ;)
CB1300 is being watched below Flesh ;) . Main trouble is that I want one of these or an XJR1300 as a weekender so don't want to spoil my future options. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2006-HONDA-CB-1300-SA-5-WHITE-/221884836180?hash=item33a95de954 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2006-HONDA-CB-1300-SA-5-WHITE-/221884836180?hash=item33a95de954)
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cheers for this thread as I've been looking to get another bike & there is a CBF1000 come up for sale that I'm going to look at tonight. its 07 plate with 14.5k miles on and looks a beaut!
only thing is i'm fussy bout is the riding position & how easy it is to manoeuvre standing still & very slow speeds!
If I get it I'll put pics up, if I don't I'll put sellers link up lol!
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Put a link up Robbie and I can
beat you to it offer some advice.
Keep looking at this one below. Literally a mile away from me but can't get past the shite colour :'(
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201510047497799/sort/locasc/postcode/rg414as/radius/100/make/honda/model/cbf1000/cc-from/900cc/cc-to/1100cc/page/1/usedbikes (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201510047497799/sort/locasc/postcode/rg414as/radius/100/make/honda/model/cbf1000/cc-from/900cc/cc-to/1100cc/page/1/usedbikes)
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:agree
Not sure about that colour either. Never seen one like that before. Why would you want a slow colour anyway?
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Frosties et al
Here is a nice looking one.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201501140154985?search-target=usedbikes&make=honda&model=cbf1000&maximum-mileage=up_to_15000_miles&maximum-age=up_to_8_years_old&postcode=rh118jd&radius=100&sort=default&page=1&logcode=p (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201501140154985?search-target=usedbikes&make=honda&model=cbf1000&maximum-mileage=up_to_15000_miles&maximum-age=up_to_8_years_old&postcode=rh118jd&radius=100&sort=default&page=1&logcode=p)
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Put a link up Robbie and I can beat you to it offer some advice.
Keep looking at this one below. Literally a mile away from me but can't get past the shite colour :'(
[url]http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201510047497799/sort/locasc/postcode/rg414as/radius/100/make/honda/model/cbf1000/cc-from/900cc/cc-to/1100cc/page/1/usedbikes[/url] ([url]http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201510047497799/sort/locasc/postcode/rg414as/radius/100/make/honda/model/cbf1000/cc-from/900cc/cc-to/1100cc/page/1/usedbikes[/url])
oh so you don't like the colour?? good job cuz I just bought it lol!!!! pick it up Monday after work!! :D :D :D :lol
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201510047497799?search-target=usedbikes&make=honda&cc-to=1200cc&price-from=2500&price-to=3000&cc-from=900cc&sort=default&radius=1500&page=7&postcode=rg279xa&logcode=p (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201510047497799?search-target=usedbikes&make=honda&cc-to=1200cc&price-from=2500&price-to=3000&cc-from=900cc&sort=default&radius=1500&page=7&postcode=rg279xa&logcode=p)
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as for the colour I can't explain on here but after black or silver it is spot on for me!!
will be changing number plate too haha
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Its purely for the ABS. After the shunt up town with the van recently in the wet, a little switch has triggered in my head that for the mileage I do it's now a must have - especially in London.
FZ1S with ABS than - surely way better than Hondas :lol
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FZ1-Fazer-2007-ABS-/321878826068?hash=item4af1791c54 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FZ1-Fazer-2007-ABS-/321878826068?hash=item4af1791c54)
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that's nice but £1k more than I had to play with
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Put a link up Robbie and I can beat you to it offer some advice.
Keep looking at this one below. Literally a mile away from me but can't get past the shite colour :'(
[url]http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201510047497799/sort/locasc/postcode/rg414as/radius/100/make/honda/model/cbf1000/cc-from/900cc/cc-to/1100cc/page/1/usedbikes[/url] ([url]http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201510047497799/sort/locasc/postcode/rg414as/radius/100/make/honda/model/cbf1000/cc-from/900cc/cc-to/1100cc/page/1/usedbikes[/url])
oh so you don't like the colour?? good job cuz I just bought it lol!!!! pick it up Monday after work!! :D :D :D :lol
[url]http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201510047497799?search-target=usedbikes&make=honda&cc-to=1200cc&price-from=2500&price-to=3000&cc-from=900cc&sort=default&radius=1500&page=7&postcode=rg279xa&logcode=p[/url] ([url]http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201510047497799?search-target=usedbikes&make=honda&cc-to=1200cc&price-from=2500&price-to=3000&cc-from=900cc&sort=default&radius=1500&page=7&postcode=rg279xa&logcode=p[/url])
:lol :lol Both scouting the same bloody bike, what were the chances eh?
Pleased for you Robbie, nice one fella. I really did try to like the colour because the rest of the bike was totally spot on including options...........and a feckin mile away from me.
Agree that Silver and Black are better but would also take the white or candy red ahead of the blue - personal choice.
I know where the bike is.........good luck making it to the motorway :rollin
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haha thanks was well chuffed with it, like you say fully loaded and spotless its been kept in a garage all its life, well that's about to change hehehe
will keep you all updated on it.
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Maybe we need to add a CBF1000 sub-forum to this site now :pokefun
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Maybe we need to add a CBF1000 sub-forum to this site now :pokefun
Ohhhhhhhhh grrrrrrrrrrreat idea. Add salt to the wound why don't you. I'm STILL fecking looking for one :grumble
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What about this one?
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201501140154985?search-target=usedbikes&make=honda&model=cbf1000&maximum-mileage=up_to_15000_miles&maximum-age=up_to_8_years_old&postcode=rh118jd&radius=100&sort=default&page=1&logcode=p (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201501140154985?search-target=usedbikes&make=honda&model=cbf1000&maximum-mileage=up_to_15000_miles&maximum-age=up_to_8_years_old&postcode=rh118jd&radius=100&sort=default&page=1&logcode=p)
cheaper than the yucky blue one so leaves you cash to add the rack etc.
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What about this one?
[url]http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201501140154985?search-target=usedbikes&make=honda&model=cbf1000&maximum-mileage=up_to_15000_miles&maximum-age=up_to_8_years_old&postcode=rh118jd&radius=100&sort=default&page=1&logcode=p[/url] ([url]http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201501140154985?search-target=usedbikes&make=honda&model=cbf1000&maximum-mileage=up_to_15000_miles&maximum-age=up_to_8_years_old&postcode=rh118jd&radius=100&sort=default&page=1&logcode=p[/url])
cheaper than the yucky blue one so leaves you cash to add the rack etc.
Not a bad shout BB - worth thinking about.
Currently scouting this one - NOT BLUE, nice rear shock upgrade, knuckle wind deflectors, comfort seat, lowers etc. Mileage is double but I do about 20 - 23k a year so is it an issue. It's also private so a hard haggle down to £2800 could be on the cards.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201509076696104?search-target=usedbikes&make=honda&model=cbf1000&price-to=3500&postcode=rg414as&page=1&radius=1500&sort=locasc&logcode=p (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201509076696104?search-target=usedbikes&make=honda&model=cbf1000&price-to=3500&postcode=rg414as&page=1&radius=1500&sort=locasc&logcode=p)
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I like look of those knuckle deflectors... have to research them!
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And here it is finally.........Love the turbine power.
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Very nice mate 8) ....even if i did try to put you off.
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Its a cracking bike Noggy - turbine smooth, no vices and handles very similar to a FZS. Just wish the CBF1000 forum wasn't so fecking boring. Have I bought a boring old bastards bike so none of them have a sense of humour :lol
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Its a cracking bike Noggy - turbine smooth, no vices and handles very similar to a FZS. Just wish the CBF1000 forum wasn't so fecking boring. Have I bought a boring old bastards bike so none of them have a sense of humour :lol
Yeh it is shit...my mate said that.....one guy asked for advice to upgrade his rear shock...6 months later he had 3 replies....one said they didnt see the point in replacing the standard shock as they were great............the next said go on google......the third was pretty helpful and just said get in touch with hagon or nitron........that was it...no ribbings or anything :(
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Nope, not a single piss take - loads of "use the search, it's been covered" with no link or "should've posted that question here" or feck all replies. Little bit patronising and weird as feck. Reckon they're all sensible :'(
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Reckon they're all sensible :'(
As apposed to we're not? :b :lol
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Reckon they're all sensible :'(
As apposed to we're not? :b :lol
Got it in one Sinto. This site has got to be the best bike or car forum I've ever been on. Loads of good advice when you need it and follow up checks to see how you're doing. Add a lot of associated piss taking which are relevant and you quite simply have the perfect forum. :guitar
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Reckon they're all sensible :'(
As apposed to we're not? :b :lol
Got it in one Sinto. This site has got to be the best bike or car forum I've ever been on. Loads of good advice when you need it and follow up checks to see how you're doing. Add a lot of associated piss taking which are relevant and you quite simply have the perfect forum. :guitar
:agree
That's the reasons I like it here too, nothing wrong with a bit of stick, keeps you happy and you get info too :)
Far better here than on fb, might be some of the same guys but I just find here better :)
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That's the reasons I like it here too, nothing wrong with a bit of stick, keeps you happy and you get info too :)
Far better here than on fb, might be some of the same guys but I just find here better :)
I committed facebook suicide many years ago, best thing I ever did!
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Its funny you mention it being turbine smooth. That was a description I used when I got mine. 4th gear from 10mph all the way up to silly speed. Like a turbine, not a hint of snatching or coughing.
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Its funny you mention it being turbine smooth. That was a description I used when I got mine. 4th gear from 10mph all the way up to silly speed. Like a turbine, not a hint of snatching or coughing.
Or even 6th at 30mph and pin it....is a Gen1 Thou pretty similar? Going to have the CBF as my 365 commuter and thinking now about changing the 600 for one of the Gen1's up for sale to have as a weekender (or give the 600 some needed TLC). The Tiger I just can't part with - not many around and it gets lots of comments.
Out of curiosity BB, mine's a 57 bike and just running my first tankful to check range so what are you getting to a tank ?
Same riding style as my other bikes and currently have 136 miles clocked up with a tad over a 1/4 tank left (I know it's 4 litres left at top of red mark)
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I get around 10-11 miles per litre but generally fill up long before the light comes on.
I cant recall how big the tank is meant to be but you will work that out soon using your bike much more than I do.
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I get around 10-11 miles per litre but generally fill up long before the light comes on.
I cant recall how big the tank is meant to be but you will work that out soon using your bike much more than I do.
10 miles per litre = 45.**mpg and 11miles/L = 50.**mpg if my maths is working. I know its a 19.4 litre tank so ballpark 190 odd mile range.
Will punch mine up later when I fill up.