Author Topic: Starting problem (Read 8369 times)

keno · « **on:** 08 January 2017, 06:53:00 pm »

Last few months i have been having a on and off starting problem,sometimes turns over ok then all of a sudden i just get a click coming from the battery area,if i put in gear and slightly bump in gear it will start when i hit the button.Not sure if it is starter motor,battery or some electrical issue, anyone had this or similar.

Battery charges ok and sits at 12.6 on the optimate but its over 10 years old?
Clicking sounds like it is coming from fusebox area down by battery.
Oh and its a 98 fazer 600

Ruby Racing · « **Reply #1 on:** 08 January 2017, 07:33:56 pm »

It may show good volts, but it can be lies!

Check the output of the battery when you try to start it.

At 10 years old I would suspect your battery has had its day. 10 years is a good innings though.

darrsi · « **Reply #2 on:** 08 January 2017, 07:36:00 pm »

12.6 is too low, and 10 years old is too high.

I think you've had your moneys worth out of it, time for a new one now i reckon.

unfazed · « **Reply #3 on:** 08 January 2017, 08:08:26 pm »

keno · « **Reply #4 on:** 09 January 2017, 08:21:51 am »

Thanks for replys will give it a start and check output when i get in from work,think you are all right about it due to age.
Any one tried the motobat batterys the yellow ones or is there any other good batterys been a while since i bought one

darrsi · « **Reply #5 on:** 09 January 2017, 10:19:13 am »

I bought another one recently, which I chose for the slightly higher ampage.

Have a look around for the best price.

VARTA YT12B-BS 12v-12Ah

Ruby Racing · « **Reply #6 on:** 09 January 2017, 10:51:27 am »

I've not been impressed with Motobat, I'd go for a Yuasa.

bandit · « **Reply #7 on:** 09 January 2017, 11:57:08 am »

Yuasa or Varta not Motorbatt they are less powerful.

Jules-C · « **Reply #8 on:** 09 January 2017, 12:42:22 pm »

If it makes the clicking noise but then starts successfully using the button after a slight in gear bump the battery is probably ok but I'd check the starter motor brushes as they could be stuck or worn beyond their limit.

Graham53 · « **Reply #9 on:** 09 January 2017, 05:37:57 pm »

I had something similar with my foxeye a few years back , every now and then all it would do is click , bump it it would be ok then a few months later same thing .
Changed battery , same problem then took out starter motor and checked but in the end it was the starter solenoid.

daviee · « **Reply #10 on:** 09 January 2017, 05:57:13 pm »

im with jules on this recon the starter motor it the culprit if it was the battery the it wouldnt matter if you rocked it back and fourth it still wouldnt turn over if the battery was flat

keno · « **Reply #11 on:** 09 January 2017, 07:29:31 pm »

I was thinking both the starter solenoid and brushes as it is weird it will start after just a minor bump from just pushing while sat on it and it will either start or just click,where is the starter solenoid, its not down by the fuse box by any chance?
Will still do a battery output check on my meter tomorrow as i finish work early,bike is nearly nineteen years old and in the 11 i have had it this is the first problem i have had, so not bad going as it is used every day all year.
Any way it is either battery,starter or solenoid,but which one

darrsi · « **Reply #12 on:** 09 January 2017, 08:22:36 pm »

No matter what the problem is, treat your bike to a new battery, i think it deserves it.

keno · « **Reply #13 on:** 09 January 2017, 08:34:03 pm »

Quote from: darrsi on 09 January 2017, 08:22:36 pm

No matter what the problem is, treat your bike to a new battery, i think it deserves it.

Yes probably will,also need a new set of downpipes as the originals have finally started blowing in all the wrong places,but the bike is used constantly,amazed they have lasted this long

keno · « **Reply #14 on:** 10 January 2017, 06:51:55 pm »

Battery output on my meter was showing 10.65 on first attempt and 9.35 second prod of starter

daviee · « **Reply #15 on:** 10 January 2017, 06:57:40 pm »

you need to check it when its running not when pressing the starter with the engine running you should see about 14 volts

bandit · « **Reply #16 on:** 10 January 2017, 07:10:04 pm »

Load test should not be less than 9.5v on a charged battery & with engine running output at terminals should be between 13.8v & 14.5v.

keno · « **Reply #17 on:** 12 January 2017, 03:24:57 pm »

Yep done the test and it is 14.46 so looks like battery is still ok after over 10 years,looks like starter motor or solenoid think will start with solenoid.

bandit · « **Reply #18 on:** 12 January 2017, 03:39:04 pm »

Did you do the load test as well.

keno · « **Reply #19 on:** 12 January 2017, 04:24:05 pm »

bike was running when i connected the meter

bandit · « **Reply #20 on:** 12 January 2017, 11:05:31 pm »

The charging system is fine, you said the load on the battery was seen at 9.35volts this indicates a new one is required.

darrsi · « **Reply #21 on:** 13 January 2017, 05:32:58 am »

How long is a motorcycle battery good for?

While “How Long Does A Motorcycle Battery Last?” has no exact answer, as a general rule if you take care of your motorcycle battery through the proper maintenance and ensure that it is always getting a good charge, there is no reason why you cannot expect your motorcycle battery to last between two to five years.

Jules-C · « **Reply #22 on:** 13 January 2017, 06:33:34 am »

If the battery is never allowed to go flat it can last well over 10 years. I replaced mine after 10 years after I fitted heated grips because they would switch off with the engine idling at traffic lights. The new battery made no difference.

But AGM batteries do not like going flat and being asked to deliver high currents when partially discharged. Just one occasion of carrying on trying to start an engine until the battery won't turn the engine over or the solenoid clicks can ruin a battery and it won't hold a charge properly again.

darrsi · « **Reply #23 on:** 13 January 2017, 06:45:48 am »

Quote from: Jules-C on 13 January 2017, 06:33:34 am

If the battery is never allowed to go flat it can last well over 10 years. I replaced mine after 10 years after I fitted heated grips because they would switch off with the engine idling at traffic lights. The new battery made no difference.

But AGM batteries do not like going flat and being asked to deliver high currents when partially discharged. Just one occasion of carrying on trying to start an engine until the battery won't turn the engine over or the solenoid clicks can ruin a battery and it won't hold a charge properly again.

Just common sense says it would appreciate a new one after 10 years though, i don't even understand why anyone is even questioning it?

keno · « **Reply #24 on:** 13 January 2017, 10:23:02 am »

when the snow clears and i have time i will take the battery out of my zrx 1200 and try that and if it starts every time problem solved

Author Topic: Starting problem (Read 8369 times)

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