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Re: Swing arm Movement?
« Reply #25 on: 03 August 2020, 09:47:26 pm »
@Gnasher, can the bearing in the linkage arm be pushed out with your fingers..? or is a press-out, press-in affair..?


Press in/out they're slight interference fit, they don't require high press weights.   
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Re: Swing arm Movement?
« Reply #26 on: 04 August 2020, 11:28:34 am »

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Re: Swing arm Movement?
« Reply #27 on: 04 August 2020, 01:21:53 pm »
That to me looks like 1-2mm or less, so the bearing just need repacking. Lets see what Gnasher says.

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Re: Swing arm Movement?
« Reply #28 on: 04 August 2020, 01:40:32 pm »
That to me looks like 1-2mm or less, so the bearing just need repacking.

Mate that's overall movement at the end of the swingarm.

The bearing in the vid looks buggered, it also very likely the pin is too, probably due to seal failure.
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Re: Swing arm Movement?
« Reply #29 on: 04 August 2020, 02:24:28 pm »
That to me looks like 1-2mm or less, so the bearing just need repacking.

Mate that's overall movement at the end of the swingarm.

The bearing in the vid looks buggered, it also very likely the pin is too, probably due to seal failure.
Ive ordered a used rear shock linkage, do you think I will need a new bolt and collar too?

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Re: Swing arm Movement?
« Reply #30 on: 04 August 2020, 02:33:13 pm »
It's impossible to say without stripping it.  It's also very possible the bearings in your second hand part will be shot too, but you could be lucky and the pin/bush (collar) in the bike could also be worn. 
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Re: Swing arm Movement?
« Reply #31 on: 04 August 2020, 02:46:55 pm »
Do you know where I could get the seals No.24 and collar No.17 from as fowlers don't have them in stock?

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Re: Swing arm Movement?
« Reply #32 on: 04 August 2020, 03:21:41 pm »
Mate that's overall movement at the end of the swingarm.
Ah yes, doh.

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Re: Swing arm Movement?
« Reply #33 on: 04 August 2020, 03:26:10 pm »
Do you know where I could get the seals No.24 and collar No.17 from as fowlers don't have them in stock?
Call/email all your local yam dealers and see if any have stock.

or

Do a search on ebay for the part number -

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Re: Swing arm Movement?
« Reply #34 on: 04 August 2020, 04:51:49 pm »
Try Wemoto, or Yambits.   :)

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« Reply #35 on: 04 August 2020, 05:22:10 pm »
Try Wemoto, or Yambits.   :)
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Re: Swing arm Movement?
« Reply #36 on: 04 August 2020, 05:36:49 pm »
I think you'll find OE part only, you'll have to order from a dealer.
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Re: Swing arm Movement?
« Reply #37 on: 04 August 2020, 06:06:51 pm »
Wemoto.com are showing the seals in stock, £5.62 + £3.00 postage to the UK.  Looks like the collar is out of stock though.

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Re: Swing arm Movement?
« Reply #38 on: 04 August 2020, 06:33:50 pm »
Wemoto.com are showing the seals in stock, £5.62 + £3.00 postage to the UK.  Looks like the collar is out of stock though.

Never known them to carry this part or any specific suspension part other than front fork seals and bushes , I can't find the oil seal he needs or the collar he may need? 

Bearings yes, but I wouldn't use them, they're a 3rd of the cost for a reason, but that's up to you. 

Followers will get most parts, on back order within 24 hrs, might take a little longer due to Covid.   
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Re: Swing arm Movement?
« Reply #39 on: 04 August 2020, 06:45:57 pm »
Have you tried the firm I suggested for your sump washer. MSP.
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Re: Swing arm Movement?
« Reply #40 on: 04 August 2020, 09:16:43 pm »
I've found the seals, I emailed them about the collar has it said ETA so waiting to hear from them to see how long it would take.

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Re: Swing arm Movement?
« Reply #41 on: 05 August 2020, 10:35:05 am »

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Re: Swing arm Movement?
« Reply #42 on: 05 August 2020, 10:54:53 am »
Do a search on ebay for the part number -

Checking the link for the colloar above show an ebay link from Fowlers and it says they have 8 in stock atm - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YAMAHA-Collar-90387-102R4-OEM-MT09-MT09TRACER-FJR1300-FZS1000FAZER-TRX850-R1Z/362502188816?fits=UKM_Make%3AYamaha&hash=item5466d06f10:g:XOUAAOSwQn1e-yxc

And the second link has result after result of genuine seal going for peanuts!


Mate, can you find these?


Wemoto.com are showing the seals in stock, £5.62 + £3.00 postage to the UK.  Looks like the collar is out of stock though.
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Re: Swing arm Movement?
« Reply #43 on: 05 August 2020, 10:59:56 am »
Let me call Fowlers just now..

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Re: Swing arm Movement?
« Reply #44 on: 05 August 2020, 11:03:36 am »
Mate I'm referring to the parts on Wemoto?


Fowlers will get any Yam part if it's still made and carried as stock in 24 hrs from the EU distribution dept in Holland, if they don't have it.   
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« Reply #45 on: 05 August 2020, 11:08:19 am »
Checking the link for the colloar above show an ebay link from Fowlers and it says they have 8 in stock atm - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YAMAHA-Collar-90387-102R4-OEM-MT09-MT09TRACER-FJR1300-FZS1000FAZER-TRX850-R1Z/362502188816?fits=UKM_Make%3AYamaha&hash=item5466d06f10:g:XOUAAOSwQn1e-yxc
Let me call Fowlers just now..
So ebay is lying. Fowlers don't have any stock as Wayne found, but Yamaha Uk do. Lead time from purchase over the phone to arriving through your letter box atm is 7-10 days.

- https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/search/part/90387-102R4
But found another more linkfor the collor -

https://www.cmsnl.com/products/collar1wg_90387102r4/
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Re: Swing arm Movement?
« Reply #46 on: 05 August 2020, 11:22:36 am »
Looks like Yamaha have changed how the do business, Fowlers used to be one of the main spares importers they supplied most others.  Oh well you learn something every day :)
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Re: Swing arm Movement?
« Reply #47 on: 05 August 2020, 11:56:50 am »
I've managed to get everything off, the collar doesn't look to bad just a good clean?
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Re: Swing arm Movement?
« Reply #48 on: 05 August 2020, 11:58:51 am »
Gnasher will correct me -

  • if you hold a flat edge to the collar and cant see any daylight between the collar and the edge then your golden. I would also say if you can feel anything with your fingers nails that also a good sign.
  • Also those bolts while a bit corroded also look fine - but do the above check on them.
If they are good, they should clean-up with some Autosol.
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Re: Swing arm Movement?
« Reply #49 on: 05 August 2020, 12:11:11 pm »
I have a suspension linkage coming, should be here on Friday, maybe this will come with some collars,So I'm going to clean everything up while the swing arm is off, also have some new bearings for the pivot shaft which I might put on too.
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