Fazer Owners Club - Unofficial
General => General => Topic started by: b1k3rdude on 19 December 2018, 07:51:03 pm
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Does any one know if a motorcycle can be made to be Euro 3 compliant..?
I found this, but there is zero mention of motorcycles- https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/low-emission-zone/ways-to-meet-the-standards/fit-a-filter
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As far as I know only bikes registered '07 onwards are exempt. Prior to that you pay the same as a car.
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I seem to remember the link you've posted when the lez was first being introduced. My motorhome didn't comply and would have cost approx £1700 as part of a bulk purchase with other owners. Selling it was a cheaper option. It's only now with ulez that motorcycles have stupidly been included. Could be a business opportunity if someone could come up with a gadget that would allow compliance.
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Saw on the news earlier that petrol/diesel Uber cars are now being made to pay congestion charges from next year.
That's fair isn't it?
Wasn't it the whole point, to reduce polution?
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When I first heard about ULEZ, both my bikes WERE exempt.... khan and his cronies are just out to make a quick buck.
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Does any one know if a motorcycle can be made to be Euro 3 compliant..?
I found this, but there is zero mention of motorcycles- https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/low-emission-zone/ways-to-meet-the-standards/fit-a-filter (https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/low-emission-zone/ways-to-meet-the-standards/fit-a-filter)
There wouldn't be any mention. It refers to fitting particulate/soot filters to diesel vehicles that were manufactured without them.
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As far as I'm aware, if you live inside the North Circular and you own a Boxeye/Foxeye/Early thou you've had it unless you're prepared to pay the exorbitant daily fee. You're on borrowed time.
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A quick input of your reg. number on the relevant part of the ulez website will soon let you know if you're exempt or not :'( .
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It's a shame they can't eliminate knife crime as efficiently as they can eliminate Fazers. There's money involved though isn't there.
You've either got to go older or newer. Pre 1978 is exempt as is post 2007. If you're in roughly that 30 years in between you're stuffed.
The Historic Vehicle exemption is rolling I believe, so if you put them on SORN and wait 20 years the first Boxeyes become exempt.
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It's a shame they can't eliminate knife crime as efficiently as they can eliminate Fazers. There's money involved though isn't there.
You've either got to go older or newer. Pre 1978 is exempt as is post 2007. If you're in roughly that 30 years in between you're stuffed.
The Historic Vehicle exemption is rolling I believe, so if you put them on SORN and wait 20 years the first Boxeyes become exempt.
The Foxeye Fazer might last that long but I certainly will not
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A 1990's/early 2000's Honda Cub four stroke is banned/subject to daily emissions charge whilst a rip-stonking Kawasaki H2 750 two-stroke triple is exempt from the charge :lol
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I remember a mate of mine on a H1 500 Kwacker taking off from some traffic lights along the Embankment in 1976. I suspect the smoke still hasn't cleared :)
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I suspect the smoke still hasn't cleared
heh...
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As far as I know only bikes registered '07 onwards are exempt. Prior to that you pay the same as a car.
It is based on declared emissions, not strictly the age or euro rating. Age/Euro rating could be considered a guideline for vehicles that will be reasonably guaranteed to be exempt as that class meets the emissions requirement.
If you get your bike or other vehicle tested/certified and can show TfL that it meets their emissions requirements, then it can be exempted. DVLA will need to add the emissions figure to your registration, and then TfL will exempt it from the charge.
I think I read recently that if you are willing to do so, you can even apply to TfL to exempt an entire model of vehicle rather than an individual, if you can show that model meets the requirement.
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Volunteers?
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Just reading an article in the newspaper about this subject. It says....'It is expected that the applicable age of vehicles will move with time, so in 2022 it will be cars older than 2016 that are affected by the zone and so on'.
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I am in the process of communicating with Yamaha to get a definitive answer about the exhaust emissions for my Fazer thou.
I have stated that due to the high bike theft problem I refuse to take my MT10 into London.
So far they have been very helpful and quick to reply.
I will keep you posted on the result.
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Well done and good luck Dazza.
I've got everything crossed for you....and all of us :D
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So as I suspected the FZS1000 is technically Euro3 compliant and all we need is a vert to continue to ride out bikes in London -
- http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?topic=24907.msg291604;boardseen#new (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?topic=24907.msg291604;boardseen#new)
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seen it
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In the mcn there is a piece about A bike garage in London who is authorised to do emission tests for older bikes
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It's mentioned on the other thread
http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,24907.125.html (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,24907.125.html)
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now everyone has a good excuse not to go anywhere near LaaaaaaaaaaaaaNNNDDDDaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaN.
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It's a bloody disgrace we have to pay the same as cars anyway, i think bikes are about 0.1% of the problem.
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Out of curiosity, I went on to the checker website this evening. The result was not what I expected.
My 2000 FZS600 - non-compliant so have to pay the emissions charge
My 2012 Audi A6 diesel - non-compliant so have to pay the emissions charge
My wifes 2014 Fiat 500L diesel - non-compliant
My sons 2004 Petrol Ford Focus - Compliant!!!!!!!
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It's a bloody disgrace we have to pay the same as cars anyway, i think bikes are about 0.1% of the problem.
What about the incinerators the council's keep building?!
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I've just put all my cars into the checker and I'm confused:
04 plate Skoda Octavia 1.9 Tdi doesn't pass (but I didn't expect it to).
our "new" 11 plate Skoda Octavia 1.6 Tdi doesn't pass (I expected it to)
My 55 plate 1.4 Ford Fiesta passes.
Now this is the bit that REALLY confuses me
I thought road tax is now based on emmissions:
The 11 plate Skoda is only £30 a year (bargain!) So, that's chucking out low emmitions, yeah? But still fails ULEZ
The 04 plate Skoda was £125 a year so not so good, I get why it would not be included in ULEZ
The 55 plate Fiesta costs me £145 and the most expensive car in terms of tax and yet passes
WTF???
My cars don't pollute according to tax but do according to ULEZ!
Potty!
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:agree
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I've just put all my cars into the checker and I'm confused:
04 plate Skoda Octavia 1.9 Tdi doesn't pass (but I didn't expect it to).
our "new" 11 plate Skoda Octavia 1.6 Tdi doesn't pass (I expected it to)
My 55 plate 1.4 Ford Fiesta passes.
Now this is the bit that REALLY confuses me
I thought road tax is now based on emmissions:
The 11 plate Skoda is only £30 a year (bargain!) So, that's chucking out low emmitions, yeah? But still fails ULEZ
The 04 plate Skoda was £125 a year so not so good, I get why it would not be included in ULEZ
The 55 plate Fiesta costs me £145 and the most expensive car in terms of tax and yet passes
WTF???
My cars don't pollute according to tax but do according to ULEZ!
Potty!
I Dare say TFL want you do their data base building for them and then ofcourse there's the extra revenue to be gained from those who won't question it.
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I think Vehicle Excise Duty is based on CO2 emissions (greenhouse gases) not NOx.
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This is worth a read
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/how_toxic_is_your_car_exhaust (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/how_toxic_is_your_car_exhaust)
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Fascinating!!!
Would Mr Khan react to something like this??
I would hope so as he stands to generate a shed load more revenue from genuinely dirty, poisonous cars and might feel more benevolent towards bikes as a consequence.
We can but hope :rolleyes
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Fascinating!!!
and might feel more benevolent towards bikes as a consequence.
We can but hope :rolleyes
Better bloody not I've just coughed up £60
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Have any 600 foccers entered the ulez zone yet and if so set up a auto pay account?
Auto pay sounds interesting ;) are the camera's on both sides of the road checking vehicles on both sides of the road?
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Have any 600 foccers entered the ulez zone yet and if so set up a auto pay account?
Auto pay sounds interesting ;) are the camera's on both sides of the road checking vehicles on both sides of the road?
They even charge you a tenner for the courtesy of trying to be efficient by setting up Auto Pay with your bank details. It's Dick Turpin all over again. :rolleyes
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Have any 600 foccers entered the ulez zone yet and if so set up a auto pay account?
Auto pay sounds interesting ;) are the camera's on both sides of the road checking vehicles on both sides of the road?
They even charge you a tenner for the courtesy of trying to be efficient by setting up Auto Pay with your bank details. It's Dick Turpin all over again. :rolleyes
check out the cost to get a refund....... £10
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Have any 600 foccers entered the ulez zone yet and if so set up a auto pay account?
Auto pay sounds interesting ;) are the camera's on both sides of the road checking vehicles on both sides of the road?
They even charge you a tenner for the courtesy of trying to be efficient by setting up Auto Pay with your bank details. It's Dick Turpin all over again. :rolleyes
check out the cost to get a refund....... £10
I'd be expecting a refund if I'd paid the rip-off charge and then couldn't get anywhere because of all these middle class, champagne socialist 'Climate Change Protesters' blocking all the roads in central London.
Apparently some people are missing hospital appointments due to the actions of these priveledged, virtue signalling dickheads.
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Get value for money from the ULEZ ride a 2 stroke with the 2 stroke oil pump tuned to rich.
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Get value for money from the ULEZ ride a 2 stroke with the 2 stroke oil pump tuned to rich.
The unmistakable smell of Castrol :)
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Have any 600 foccers entered the ulez zone yet and if so set up a auto pay account?
Auto pay sounds interesting ;) are the camera's on both sides of the road checking vehicles on both sides of the road?
They even charge you a tenner for the courtesy of trying to be efficient by setting up Auto Pay with your bank details. It's Dick Turpin all over again. :rolleyes
check out the cost to get a refund....... £10
I'd be expecting a refund if I'd paid the rip-off charge and then couldn't get anywhere because of all these middle class, champagne socialist 'Climate Change Protesters' blocking all the roads in central London.
Apparently some people are missing hospital appointments due to the actions of these priveledged, virtue signalling dickheads.
Technically, these soap dodging pricks are causing congestion in London, so they should be charged accordingly.
Bang them up until they've paid off their bill, and we really don't care if they make a stand, they can stay inside all their life as far as i'm concerned to think about how their pathetic bellend behaviour has caused more bad than good.
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The bastards have moved onto Heathrow now....on Easter weekend.
What a bunch of selfish tossers, they won't change a damn thing apart from ruin peoples treasured time off work.