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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #975 on: 27 August 2013, 10:24:44 am »
ok....a bit more help.my first thoughts were fuel and i have more or less stuck with this all along.....iam like DEADEYE  with modern bike electrics,dont know a great deal about them but am starting to understand them  ;) ...i have already mentioned that replacing the pick-up coil has helped and is a big clue.....JOHNBOY is on the right lines and DEADEYE is on to something also.....even if you know very little about electrics you should guess the problem......quite a few stuttering problems on here at moment and mine is a cheap fix  so i hope i can help others....so.......you have untill the end of the day to win the beer tokens before i reveal the answer and enjoy the ice cold beer  ;)
 
 
far too many clues there.....think i may have made it too easy for you  :rolleyes 
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #976 on: 27 August 2013, 10:24:59 am »
Quote from: red98 on 27 August 2013, 07:03:14 am
yep....very close  ;)    and with no one else playing looks like the beer tokens are coming your way..........unless FAZERIDER is going to join in  ;)


mmm so the pickup coil resistance high ;) [size=78%] it should between  189--231 ohms so is it the black/blue wire a bit chaffed!!!!!![/size]
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #977 on: 27 August 2013, 10:28:25 am »
So under load, high resistance = breakdown from the pick up coil, causing stuttering.... :)
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #978 on: 27 August 2013, 10:54:56 am »
hi paul,....cheap fix you say?...has ime useless with electrics also will have a stab at either rectifier/regulator/battery,..or bad earthing wire? from/to pickup coil...? :rolleyes
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #979 on: 27 August 2013, 11:22:16 am »
Quote from: CRH on 27 August 2013, 10:54:56 am
hi paul,....cheap fix you say?...has ime useless with electrics also will have a stab at either rectifier/regulator/battery,..or bad earthing wire? from/to pickup coil...? :rolleyes

 
 
hi clive.....good to hear from you again  :) ........mmmmmmm without giving too much away.....your in the same boat as JOHNBOY + DEADEYE.......try one answer at a time..........now this is getting really easy.
 
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #980 on: 27 August 2013, 11:32:07 am »
ile go for the earth wire then paul!!...not heard owt from the blade since he joined the....young faaaaarmers forum!! :eek ...
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #981 on: 27 August 2013, 11:37:16 am »
no....not that cheap CRH......just pm`d ATB ,see what reply i get  :lol
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #982 on: 27 August 2013, 12:01:39 pm »
If its a cheap fix it has to be some sort of replacement cable OR... hmm...

So, you replaced the coils, the plugs and the plug caps... so that should rule out that side of things. The battery is fine as well... so... has to be something in the loom either before the pickup coils or just after the generator?

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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #983 on: 27 August 2013, 12:26:13 pm »
Quote from: Dead Eye on 27 August 2013, 12:01:39 pm
If its a cheap fix it has to be some sort of replacement cable OR... hmm...

So, you replaced the coils, the plugs and the plug caps... so that should rule out that side of things. The battery is fine as well... so... has to be something in the loom either before the pickup coils or just after the generator?

 
 
 
ooooooooooooooooooooo soooooo close  :lol  quick get the haynes manual out......i dont need to because i know the whole bloody book off by heart  :o :o :o   
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #984 on: 27 August 2013, 12:27:29 pm »
....rectifier?.. :rolleyes
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #985 on: 27 August 2013, 12:33:10 pm »
Quote from: CRH on 27 August 2013, 12:27:29 pm
....rectifier?.. :rolleyes

 
another close one........haynes will tell you the answer  :D
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #986 on: 27 August 2013, 12:42:08 pm »
pickup sensor!...
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #987 on: 27 August 2013, 12:46:04 pm »
i cant bear the excitement any more....TELL US!!!!
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #988 on: 27 August 2013, 12:54:55 pm »
Magnet chipped on the pickup coil or dirty :)  still say a chaffed wire on the pickupside
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #989 on: 27 August 2013, 01:07:44 pm »
arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.....so close  :lol :lol :lol  johnboy.the pick up wire was chaffed and partly to blame,i replaced it with a good secondhand one....your nearly there matey
 
 
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #990 on: 27 August 2013, 01:13:24 pm »
Heads starting to hurt now :smash  The pick up on the generator or am i moving away :groan  coming loose/damaged
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #991 on: 27 August 2013, 01:14:08 pm »
Alternator wiring connector? Behind the left hand plastic cover where some of the relays are - I traced the cables there...

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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #992 on: 27 August 2013, 01:17:17 pm »
pickup sensor air gap!
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #993 on: 27 August 2013, 02:00:54 pm »
no no no no......you lot are going cold on me......ive swapped the pick up coil with a  known good un.....there was a small problem with the old one but its not the answer iam looking for.......as you have all gussed,it is electrics......
   come on FAZERIDER help them out   :lol
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #994 on: 27 August 2013, 02:07:04 pm »
So on that circuit you have the pickup coil, the side stand switch, engine stop switch and the ignitor unit, so would say a connector into the ignitor unit ;)
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #995 on: 27 August 2013, 02:11:30 pm »
What about the connectors to the actual coils? Or even the cabling going to / from the rectifier?
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #996 on: 27 August 2013, 02:11:54 pm »
Quote from: johnboy512 on 27 August 2013, 02:07:04 pm
So on that circuit you have the pickup coil, the side stand switch, engine stop switch and the ignitor unit, so would say a connector into the ignitor unit ;)
......just about to post the same!!...only thing left? :rolleyes ....or is it :'(
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #997 on: 27 August 2013, 02:19:30 pm »
Ok paul i'll guess...errr.....let me think......err......incompetent rider/mechanic?
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #998 on: 27 August 2013, 02:26:18 pm »
Quote from: Exupnut on 27 August 2013, 02:19:30 pm
Ok paul i'll guess...errr.....let me think......err......incompetent rider/mechanic?

 
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #999 on: 27 August 2013, 02:27:26 pm »
...978...
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