Fekkin suicide bid I'd have thought.Has the hiviz actually become law in France yet?Had a quick look around and haven't found confirmation of it.
Quote from: pitternator on 18 January 2012, 07:44:27 am I dont think its harmful to wear hi vis, except it might give the rider a sense of confidance that other drivers have seen you , and then not ride defensively I don't think anyone is actually dumb enough to stop riding defensively because they decided to wear hi-viz 'instead'.
I dont think its harmful to wear hi vis, except it might give the rider a sense of confidance that other drivers have seen you , and then not ride defensively
No but you "might" think well he must see me like the copper in the vid
Right Ranty time!Prologue. I ride with my headlights on ALL the time, day, night, spring summer autumn winter, always have , always will, ok?1. Had three serious impacts with other vehicles in 27 years of riding. None of them my fault, due to other peoples stupidity.All happened when I was a DR wearing hi-viz with the company logo etc.2. Nearly got written off by some twat coming round a corner on the wrong side of the road about 20 years ago. Hi-viz would have been pointless seeing as how it was a blind bend. It was my Dad. 3. Saw a crash 3 weeks ago not 50 yards from my house when one guy turned right across the path of an oncoming vehicle in broad daylight.Neither car was wearing Hi-viz. Could this be a contributing factor?4. Ever seen a Ford Capri trying to get on a bus? A big orange and white double decker bus? No? Cant get more Hi-viz than that.5. Imagine the manufacturers of hi-viz stuff in France rubbing their hands with glee as they double the price of everything!!6. Last mishap I had involved some silly bint reversing into me in her Toyota Avensis. Poor lass was mortified because;a. Her husband was a biker.b. She admitted she didnt even look, because she didnt ' think' anyone was behind her. 7. Russell.Russell got knocked of his bike a number of years ago on the A6 in Stockport by a woman pulling out of a side street.Madam would not admit liability even though it was clearly her fault.Why?Because he was on a motorbike and she was in a car and motorbikes are supposed to give way to cars.The judge was not amused and shreded her licence on the spot8. Was once asked when I was a courier by some silly sod who had just got out of a big flash car at the company I was collecting from how long it would take me to get to Birmingham from Manchester. When I said it didnt take long on the M6, matey boy said;Oh, I didnt know motorbikes were allowed on the motorway! Very observant Bottom line is, you could be riding around inside the planet Venus, but the morons will still get you, simply because they just dont look!!Sorry about the big rant, but it gets on my tits that we are to blame for other peoples shit driving, and I will consider hi-viz clothing, maybe, the moment that all drivers are forced to put their FUCKING HEADLIGHTS ON at nightinstead driving around with 2 glow worms in dirty jam jars to illuminate their way.Even when its pissing down.........Double standards or what?..............9.........10.
Quote from: locksmith on 18 January 2012, 11:25:41 amFekkin suicide bid I'd have thought.Has the hiviz actually become law in France yet?Had a quick look around and haven't found confirmation of it.Starts 1st Jan 2013 - http://ukfrancebikers.com/2012/01/10/france-be-visible-or-get-done/
Quote from: Pat on 18 January 2012, 12:43:07 pmQuote from: locksmith on 18 January 2012, 11:25:41 amFekkin suicide bid I'd have thought.Has the hiviz actually become law in France yet?Had a quick look around and haven't found confirmation of it.Starts 1st Jan 2013 - http://ukfrancebikers.com/2012/01/10/france-be-visible-or-get-done/125cm 2 of reflective material. So is it like the armband in the picture?Whats the point of that?
Does anyone know if being a Biker was or is llikely to be recognised as a religion, I remember there is some right if a certain number of people declared this in the last census. If so, perhaps we could all claim in the name of religious persecution and get loads of cash for being upset by the very thought of the state inflicting their anti biking views on us.
I've just remembered something which has been kicking around the back of my mind since this discussion started.In WWII the Americans had a project called "Yehudi" which involved putting lights on the front of aircraft to camouflage them. Now this may sound ridiculous, but what it meant is that rather that having a dark aeroplane which would show up against a lighter sky, by brightening the silhouette of the aeroplane, it could be made to "disappear" by removing the contrast between the plane and the sky.As such, this gives a reason why Hi-Viz isn't suitable for all conditions, eg a bright sunny day where the light colour of the Hi-Viz would actually "fade" into the background instead of standing out, making the biker less visible.
Even in bright day light, Hi-Vis jackets catch my attention quickly.
Yes l agree with freedom of choice though personally it doesn't bother me l wear a hi viz all the time, whilst commuting (which l do daily) or riding fast country lanes anything that helps me be seen better is worth the effort Take the same photograph with correctly adjusted car headlights, no camera flash, and the person in Hi Viz standing at the 3 breaking distances in the highway code.