From wednesday we can use our bikes again.

[steve 10562cc]

I can assure every one that my intentions were to just remind people they could go out on their bikes today without fear of being pulled by the police just for being on a bike. Not to wind our fellow the Scottish & Welsh riders up, unlike some,  I have more constructive things to do.  No mine has stayed in the garage today but it won't tomorrow. Had to take my dog over the fields he exercises in but hasn't been able to go there as I've been sticking to the lock down and not driving my cage.   

[BBROWN1664]

Gnasher, you obviously have an issue with something. From what you say, your wife is not one of the lazy sods as she doesnt have a choice. Satisfied?

Others who run small businesses who have decided to close their business and grab the money for nothing on the other hand....

[Grahamm]

1. Some firms shut because they were ordered to (pubs, cinema, non-essential shops etc- staff furloughed
2. some shut because they had no work as a result (commercial cleaners that speacialised in cinemas etc) - staff furloughed
3. Some shut as they were not safe initially to continue (Bentley cars etc) then gradually reopened as they made working space safe etc - staff furloughed initially
4. Some shut because they misinterpreted what was said - poor management - staff furloughed
5. Some shut because they were on the ropes already and used it as an excuse - poor management - staff furloughed

Some laid off their staff and told them to "get jobs at Tesco" until a massive public backlash forced them to backtrack...

[VNA - BMW Wank]

I can assure every one that my intentions were to just remind people they could go out on their bikes today without fear of being pulled by the police just for being on a bike.

Get out there and enjoy.

I'm looking forward to the day I can do likewise.  Though I do get to ride to and from work every other week.

[darrsi]

I want to go to work.....but it's closed. 


Wait until the weekend when a massive amount of wankers will probably be the cause of a second wave and reignite the whole thing again.

[fazersharp]

1. Some firms shut because they were ordered to (pubs, cinema, non-essential shops etc- staff furloughed
2. some shut because they had no work as a result (commercial cleaners that speacialised in cinemas etc) - staff furloughed
3. Some shut as they were not safe initially to continue (Bentley cars etc) then gradually reopened as they made working space safe etc - staff furloughed initially
4. Some shut because they misinterpreted what was said - poor management - staff furloughed
5. Some shut because they were on the ropes already and used it as an excuse - poor management - staff furloughed

Some laid off their staff and told them to "get jobs at Tesco" until a massive public backlash forced them to backtrack...

That is not how it was said, Can't be arsed to find the exact quote but it was along the lines of "please you are welcome to go and get a job at tescos or something to keep a good income and your job will be waiting for you when you return". 

[darrsi]

1. Some firms shut because they were ordered to (pubs, cinema, non-essential shops etc- staff furloughed
2. some shut because they had no work as a result (commercial cleaners that speacialised in cinemas etc) - staff furloughed
3. Some shut as they were not safe initially to continue (Bentley cars etc) then gradually reopened as they made working space safe etc - staff furloughed initially
4. Some shut because they misinterpreted what was said - poor management - staff furloughed
5. Some shut because they were on the ropes already and used it as an excuse - poor management - staff furloughed

Some laid off their staff and told them to "get jobs at Tesco" until a massive public backlash forced them to backtrack...

That is not how it was said, Can't be arsed to find the exact quote but it was along the lines of "please you are welcome to go and get a job at tescos or something to keep a good income and your job will be waiting for you when you return".

Tim Martin - Wetherspoons

[fazersharp]

1. Some firms shut because they were ordered to (pubs, cinema, non-essential shops etc- staff furloughed
2. some shut because they had no work as a result (commercial cleaners that speacialised in cinemas etc) - staff furloughed
3. Some shut as they were not safe initially to continue (Bentley cars etc) then gradually reopened as they made working space safe etc - staff furloughed initially
4. Some shut because they misinterpreted what was said - poor management - staff furloughed
5. Some shut because they were on the ropes already and used it as an excuse - poor management - staff furloughed

Some laid off their staff and told them to "get jobs at Tesco" until a massive public backlash forced them to backtrack...

That is not how it was said, Can't be arsed to find the exact quote but it was along the lines of "please you are welcome to go and get a job at tescos or something to keep a good income and your job will be waiting for you when you return".

Tim Martin - Wetherspoons

Oh yes I knew who it was its just the exact words that he said that I cant be arsed to find, If Grahamm comes back with another false quote I will have to go and find it.     

[steve 10562cc]

If the people gather in mass at beauty spots, beaches, etc and don't keep to social distancing we will be back to lockdown. As a group we who ride bikes can do our bit, go out and enjoy your rides but use your common sense don't gather in large groups and when you do stop observe social distancing let us not be the ones blamed for another lock down. We are a small  group of the public so easy for the masses to blame.
ENJOY YOUR RIDES, KEEP  THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN,  BE SAFE

[YamFazFan]

Grahamm comes back with another false quote

Grahamm spreading fake news? . I can't believe it.....literally

[fazersharp]

If the people gather in mass at beauty spots, beaches, etc and don't keep to social distancing we will be back to lockdown. As a group we who ride bikes can do our bit, go out and enjoy your rides but use your common sense don't gather in large groups and when you do stop observe social distancing let us not be the ones blamed for another lock down. We are a small  group of the public so easy for the masses to blame.
ENJOY YOUR RIDES, KEEP  THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN,  BE SAFE

I don't usually go and ride to a biker spot and get off, I just go out for a ride and come back. There used to be a big bike meet near me once a week mid week that was interesting to go to but never understood how people would just ride directly to it and get off and wander around, for me it would be a quick stop off on my way home of an evening out. 

[mtread]

That is not how it was said, Can't be arsed to find the exact quote but it was along the lines of "please you are welcome to go and get a job at tescos or something to keep a good income and your job will be waiting for you when you return".

I think you'll find it was 'Drink, Feck, Girls'

[Oldgit]

some people are Richard Branson.

[Gnasher]

Gnasher, you obviously have an issue with something. From what you say, your wife is not one of the lazy sods as she doesnt have a choice. Satisfied?

Others who run small businesses who have decided to close their business and grab the money for nothing on the other hand....

BBROWN1664

My issue as you put it, is people who make ridiculous bigoted and slanderous comments about others, based on small minded attitudes and biased opinions.

Judging from your last statement

Others who run small businesses who have decided to close their business and grab the money for nothing on the other hand....

I put it to you, it's you who's got an issue, perhaps you're a failed businessman or just don't like the fact others have skills or abilities you don't have and they can make money out of them.  Or is it you're just too lazy or unskilled to try?   You're persistence in still making bigoted and slanderous comments about the small businesses now, is noted and I'm/we're assuming you have some kind of evidence or proof in these accusations, or did you just make them up based on small minded and clearly biased attitude you have towards people running small businesses?   

The real and pressing question has now to be are you really fit to be an Administrator with such bigoted views?   I'd argue you're not.   

[mtread]

some people are Richard Branson.

Is that rhyming slang? If so I can't work it out 

[YamFazFan]

I know a Richard The 3rd

[YamFazFan]

The real and pressing question has now to be are you really fit to be an Administrator with such bigoted views?   I'd argue you're not.   

You're not angling for the job are you Gnasher? . None of our posts will last on here for more than 5 foccin minutes unless they happen to chime with your opinion .

[agricola]

Gnasher, you obviously have an issue with something. From what you say, your wife is not one of the lazy sods as she doesnt have a choice. Satisfied?

Others who run small businesses who have decided to close their business and grab the money for nothing on the other hand....

BBROWN1664

My issue as you put it, is people who make ridiculous bigoted and slanderous comments about others, based on small minded attitudes and biased opinions.

Judging from your last statement

Others who run small businesses who have decided to close their business and grab the money for nothing on the other hand....

I put it to you, it's you who's got an issue, perhaps you're a failed businessman or just don't like the fact others have skills or abilities you don't have and they can make money out of them.  Or is it you're just too lazy or unskilled to try?   You're persistence in still making bigoted and slanderous comments about the small businesses now, is noted and I'm/we're assuming you have some kind of evidence or proof in these accusations, or did you just make them up based on small minded and clearly biased attitude you have towards people running small businesses?   

The real and pressing question has now to be are you really fit to be an Administrator with such bigoted views?   I'd argue you're not.   

You're crossing the line here. Stop taking offence where none is intended, stop creating arguments where none exist. Grow up.

[Gnasher]

You're crossing the line here. Stop taking offence where none is intended, stop creating arguments where none exist. Grow up.



Really, 

[Gnasher]

You're not angling for the job are you Gnasher? . None of our posts will last on here for more than 5 foccin minutes unless they happen to chime with your opinion .

 

No mate, not at all.  As stated I get pissed when people make bigoted statements, based on some obvious personnel small minded attitudes.  In this case sweeping statement about those furloughed are lazy because they've chosen to be etc, especially when my Mrs is one of millions currently furloughed, others who own or run small business on here can speak for themselves should they so wish. 

Now had BBROWN1664 in his first reply just said, I'm not referring to your Mrs mate sorry or something, that would have been it. 

But no some load of old clap trap trying to defend an offensiveness statement, playing with the word chose, utter bollocks. If people like agricola are happy to allow people to talk about their Mrs as some kind of scrounger, that's his business, I'm not.

If the cap fit's wear it! 





 

[mtread]

Gnasher, you obviously have an issue with something. From what you say, your wife is not one of the lazy sods as she doesnt have a choice. Satisfied? Others who run small businesses who have decided to close their business and grab the money for nothing on the other hand....

Just to bring some facts into this....


Nobody who is furloughed is by their own choice. The decision is made by the employer, not the employee. As admitted by a government minister yesterday, many furloughed employees do not yet realise they will not have a job to go back to. When furlough ends they will be made redundant as the company contracts.


Small Businesses who pay tax under self assessment can carry on working (if possible). The grant is to cover loss of business from 1% to 100%. So why would they 'decide to close their business' unless they actually had to?


Small businesses which are limited companies get nothing, other than an interest free repayable loan


As I said, just a few non political facts amongst a fog of nonsense. 

[BBROWN1664]

Gnasher - One company I know of has furloughed half their staff. Nothing to do with Covid19, just because they saw it as a way of saving some money (no idea how) with the idea that the back log of work done by manufacturing will be moved to the finishing area instead. Prior to Covid, the backlog was building up and finishing were keeping up with the work they were being passed with a small buffer inbetween the two areas. Now they want to build up the buffer so furloughed the finishers for a couple of weeks.
For what its worth, I am not furloughed. I have a good job and have been as busy as pre-Covid, or even busier as the customer I am working with at the moment is pushing a lot of work our way that is Covid related or can be done without site visits

Mtread - Some small businesses where the "employee" is also the "employer" ie a director with a salary rather than from the dividends alone have shut themselves down unnecessarily so fall into the category ecasue they misunderstood the need to close

[mtread]

Mtread - Some small businesses where the "employee" is also the "employer" ie a director with a salary rather than from the dividends alone have shut themselves down unnecessarily so fall into the category ecasue they misunderstood the need to close

Sorry, I don't understand that. All self employed limited companies pay themselves a minimal salary (usually the £12500 freepay allowance) and take the rest in dividends. Why would they shut themselves down because of that? They can furlough the director (themselves), and claim 80% of 12500, but that's no comparison to their previous earnings. They too can carry on working, if allowed. Why would they purposely sit at home for just £840 a month, when usually their income is £70k+ a year?
Any company that doesn't understand that perhaps should get better advice 

[VNA - BMW Wank]

 

The change in message on Sunday was to try to make people realise that HMG do not have a bottomless bucket of money to pay for all the lazy sods who could work SAFELY but chose to sit at home instead claiming their 80%

I continue to work.  I’m working this week.  Next week I have to stay at home.  Why?  Because my employer has instructed me to do so.


Our governments need to start getting their heads together and figure out how they get more of the economy up and running.


Frankly I think we are a long way from doing so.  As I understand it the key to getting the country running is, test,test,test, trace and isolate.


The virus is out there, and as soon as everybody goes back to work there is the possibility it will spread like wildfire.  And still we are struggling to protect our care homes and vulnerable individuals living in our communities.  So, its not so much that the virus will spread and infect the largely healthy workforce, but without routine testing of key workers,its who ends up getting it - and dying.


I’d also beware of the spread slowing naturally through the summer, leading to a return to work, only for the virus to take off when it hits its favoured colder conditions.


Most workers I know stuck at home are going spare.  I also know folks who have been told to work from home going nuts too.
 
 

[mtread]

One company I know of has furloughed half their staff. Nothing to do with Covid19, just because they saw it as a way of saving some money (no idea how) with the idea that the back log of work done by manufacturing will be moved to the finishing area instead. Prior to Covid, the backlog was building up and finishing were keeping up with the work they were being passed with a small buffer inbetween the two areas. Now they want to build up the buffer so furloughed the finishers for a couple of weeks.

Sounds to me like a company that's not very good at managing its workload!


Either way, it's not the fault of the 'lazy' employee, is it?