Date: 30-04-17  Time: 02:24 AM

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: New clutch woes - help!
« Last post by vinnyb on Today at 01:03:02 AM »
Maybe the split link split,  :rollin  Don't ... He meant 45mm. We all know he meant 45mm. Now leave it :lol
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FZS600 Fazer / Re: New clutch woes - help!
« Last post by darrsi on Today at 12:53:41 AM »
Yeah, it was draggin' on the ground. That's how he knew it was loose. what?


A foot and a half play???
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FZS600 Fazer / Re: New clutch woes - help!
« Last post by vinnyb on Today at 12:22:58 AM »
 Yeah, it was draggin' on the ground. That's how he knew it was loose. what?
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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Bite point on clutch?
« Last post by tommyardin on Today at 12:14:25 AM »

The 'biting point' in the fazers' clutch with standard levers, which is within our range of adjustment is limited by the amount of free play in the lever. I.E. no play, instant bite. More play, a later bite & closer to the bars
In the case of the OP if he loosens the cable the bite will be closer to the bars & hence a later bite.
Adjustable levers will not alter the cable travel but because the levers can be set closer to the bars the stretch is less, the bite closer to the bars so most prefer it, including myself.
Whenever I've replaced clutch cables I've always taken out just enough slack at the clutch end to allow a final adjustment (i.e. minor tweaking) at the lever to achieve a little free play.
I am however, interested in learning in this case, how shortening the length of a cable can have a different effect depending upon which end is adjusted.
Yeah, yeah, I most of you know this but sometimes ya gotta say it  ;)
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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Cylinder Compression...
« Last post by tommyardin on 29 April 2017, 11:35:24 PM »
Another one for valve clearences   :thumbup ....re-grinding the valves would help your compression figures aswell....


had my X7 rebored a couple of yeasr ago...£50 per cylinder + new oversized pistons and rings , dont think thats your problem though  .....


tommy , showing your age there buddy   :lol   ..those old bikes would have been "overhead valve" engines , valves operated by a push rod from the cam located close to the crank , these new fangled motor cycles have the cam on the top and driven by a chain...called "overhead cam" engines.....still important to check valve clearences on the fazers after head removal....


Are not all modern motor cycle engines overhead valve? the really old motorcycles like my original BSA M21 was Side Valve, the BSA Super Rocket (1961) was Overhead Valve with under slung cam shaft running push rods .

If the valve settings are tight it will cause the seats on the valves to burn and also the seating in the head, they will require lapping/grinding in or replacing if they are badly burnt.
I will side with the others in here that said valves causing the lack of compression as the bike has done low mileage, if the bores still had any sign of honing in them they are not worn, plus the piston rings are under a lot of compression in the bores and will take up a certain amount of wear ,as long as the wear is uniform and the bore are not slightly oval, the usual sign of bores being worn is piston slap and a small amount light blue smoke when running, if the bike gives out a big puff of blue smoke when it first start but stops smoking after a few seconds it can point to unseated valves and/or worn valve stem/guides.


But as Red said my knowledge is of older machines, but the principles of the combustion engine remains the same, just much more refined.


As someone else pointed out a teaspoon full of clean engine oil down each plug hole will determine if its bores, all the plugs out to start with, oil down each bore one at a time as you test it with the throttle against the wide open stop, if there is no marked improvement in compression then it points to the valves or a head gasket blowing between cylinders.
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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Cylinder Compression...
« Last post by tommyardin on 29 April 2017, 11:14:56 PM »
Tommy posted the compression figures from the 600 , these are the ones from the 1000
Dont know why it came out sideways , bloody camera phones


Sharp thinking Graham, as I thought anutz was talking about his FZS600
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FZS600 Fazer / Re: New clutch woes - help!
« Last post by darrsi on 29 April 2017, 11:14:25 PM »
Swapped clutch cable today. Also noticed chain a spot slack, tightened that up to 45cm play. Still no different. Fine when cold, and fine after you pile on for a few miles with no gear changes. But heading through central London, stop start, filtering low speed, lots of clutch work, bam, pretty much impossible to clunk it up out of 1st.

However, I did pull out the long push rod for inspection, wasn't warped, but the end that pokes out by sprocket had some corrosion preventing it slide through the oil seal. Dunno if the problem but probably won't help. Ordered another nonetheless.

I've ordered some new steel plates too. Will dismantle clutch again next weekend and try those, and more thoroughly check out for wear on clutch basket/box - possibly file it down a spot if needed. Will report back.


45cm play  :lol
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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Bite point on clutch?
« Last post by ianh on 29 April 2017, 11:07:17 PM »
My clutch is the same, with a very wide span  :\


Can you tell me how to go about adjusting the span and the bite please?
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FZS600 Fazer / Re: New clutch woes - help!
« Last post by unfazed on 29 April 2017, 10:54:55 PM »
Put the standard springs back in :thumbup
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General / independence of the sea,
« Last post by taylor on 29 April 2017, 10:53:09 PM »
 no they don't do self catering lol.       we got the drinks package 1200,      pound. but it is about 7 pound a pint   so over two weeks money well spent.  Southampton for breakfast.
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