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General / Re: Front brake discs: Bobbins
« on: 19 September 2018, 01:10:23 PM »

I can’t think of any reason to mark the position of the bobbins unless a previous owner was interested to see if they rotate in normal use.


I didn’t clean my bobbins for the first few pairs of discs I’ve used, but the last lot of OEMs I did and the mileage from them didn’t improve. Now on EBCs with their SD system (which can’t be rotated) and these do seem to be lasting better.

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General / Re: Today's "What Gets My Goat"
« on: 14 September 2018, 05:56:56 PM »


Where does it all end?  :grumble


https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/senior-met-officer-could-face-the-sack-for-using-whiter-than-white-phrase-a3936041.html


I guess washing powder manufacturers will find themselves in court over the invention and use of the phrase too. :wall


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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Fan not working - wire in switch?
« on: 01 September 2018, 10:57:35 PM »
In the past 5 years my bike hasn’t overheated once despite having to negotiate London traffic jams on numerous hot days. The fan has been hanging on my garage wall all that time.

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General / Re: Noise
« on: 01 September 2018, 05:38:12 PM »
I’ve replaced the front sprocket mid way through the chain’s life before. It does make a difference since it wears 3 times faster than the rear.
They're available with the rubber damper now for about £12.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Slipping Clutch
« on: 30 August 2018, 03:41:47 PM »

You’re right, it probably is the clutch slipping if it only happens when the oil is cold, you hadn’t mentioned that previously.
Check the condition and adjustment of the clutch cable and make sure the actuator in the sprocket cover is greased and not making odd clicking noises.


Buy some OE springs and a new clutch cover gasket as the old one will probably get destroyed. Replacing the springs is straightforward: put the bike on the sidestand, so long as it isn't overfilled with oil you don't need to drain it.
To do the job you do not need to take the clutch pressure plate off, but if you do want to look at the friction plates don't lose the ball bearing at the tip of the pushrod and do make sure the pressure plate goes back on in the same position when you're done. It is not symmetrical, if it gets put back rotated it'll appear to fit but will give no drive and can get damaged.
 
When reassembling, I like to uses a thin smear of liquid gasket on the engine cases to glue the new gasket in position and a thin smear of non-moly grease on the mating surface of the clutch cover. That way, the next time you take it off the gasket should be undamaged... I've been able to take mine off half a dozen times since without needing to buy another gasket.


Hopefully you now have a Fazer with a healthy clutch. If not, you will need to change the friction plates, but at least you shouldn't need a new gasket.


Finally, the levers at the handlebars often get neglected, Cleaning and lubricating the pivots with heavy grease can make a huge difference to the feel of both clutch and brake.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Slipping Clutch
« on: 30 August 2018, 09:52:53 AM »
Been using the bike for cummuting to and from work recently, I've noticed this problem only appears to be happening when I'm giving it a lot of throttle and moving across a lane to overtake something, all the time it happens when I go up on the raised lines, and earlier there was a small dip in the road and I was gunning it down that road and as soon as I went down this dip (literally a few inches the revs just shot up and the bike was no longer accelerating for a second.


I don't know if any of this is helpful but basically this is the only time it happens, doesn't happen when I'm just riding fast in a straight line or a bend unless there is a change in the surface height.

If it's the clutch then you'll be able to provoke slip at 8,500 rpm with the throttle fully open (regardless of what gear you’re in). A long steep uphill straight is obviously best for this sort of test.
Are you sure the slip isn’t the rear wheel losing traction? If it only happens when the road gets bumpy perhaps you should be taking a look at the suspension linkages, rear shock and tyre.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Slipping Clutch
« on: 29 August 2018, 12:25:05 AM »

That does sound like a slipping clutch.
Check the cable adjustment is correct at both ends, handlebar and the actuating mechanism in the sprocket cover.
The clutch on the Fazer is a bit marginal. When new it’s good enough to transmit peak torque, but the springs gradually weaken with age and then it’ll slip, especially when the bike’s not fully warm and the oil is thick.
So unless you suspect that someone’s done an oil change using car oil with moly and the cable adjustment is correct, it’s probably just the springs that need changing.
Stick to Yamaha ones. Fractionally stiffer springs would be a good idea but for the fact that nobody makes ‘em. You can find heavy duty ones, but they’re massively stiffer and make the bike a nightmare in slow traffic.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Breather?
« on: 27 August 2018, 11:04:57 PM »
If you think a previous owner may have messed things up there’s a diagram for cable routing in the manual (available in the downloads section).

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Breather?
« on: 27 August 2018, 11:28:55 AM »

As Bandit says, it doesn’t attach to anything else.
It looks twisted out of position in your photo though, it normally faces backwards: which might give that wiring it’s pressing against a bit more room.

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General / Re: Red key
« on: 26 August 2018, 01:54:57 PM »

Does your Fazer have the OEM immobiliser then?
(Just two ordinary black keys with mine too, but I bought it without the extra security.)


Was the immobiliser an optional extra on all FZS 600's?.
I believe so. The manual shows one on the circuit diagram for the foxeye version, though there are some changes to the wiring.

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General / Re: Red key
« on: 25 August 2018, 11:18:41 PM »

Does your Fazer have the OEM immobiliser then?
(Just two ordinary black keys with mine too, but I bought it without the extra security.)

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General / Re: Whoever Posts Last is Best
« on: 16 August 2018, 05:44:33 PM »
Not seen anyone here with 15K+ Posts before. Why... but... how... is that even possible! :eek

Some people who were on the old site got their ID and post count transferred over.
And posts can be a load of pointless shite yet still count towards your total.… the 3 word story and word association threads for example. And this one.

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General / Re: speeding ticket (NIP)
« on: 07 August 2018, 12:48:14 PM »
When eventually I caught out it will cost me more than most because I have a paper licence and I believe I will need to pay for a photo one
I’ve had a few NIPs since the paper licence was replaced by the photocard one, they always send the paper one back with the points added… there’s no obligation to change to the plastic version if your other details are unchanged.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Chaaaaiiiiin
« on: 26 July 2018, 10:26:12 PM »

I’ve used a cheap riveting tool many times with no problem so it sounds like you had a duff link.
I haven’t used the tool lately though. Since fitting a chain oiler, I get such a huge mileage from the chain (40k+) that by the time it needs replacement the rear suspension needs servicing too. So the last couple of times I’ve bought an endless chain.

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General / Re: Noise
« on: 19 July 2018, 03:06:20 PM »

I’d check the front sprocket too.
If it’s starting to get slightly hooked the chain will get a “flick” as the tooth suddenly lets go of the roller when the bottom run is under tension. If the clutch is engaged the bottom run will be slack and each link can free itself from the hook quietly. It’s a bit like the difference between twanging a rubber band when it’s taut and when it’s slack.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: 1990 fzs600 black smoke at high revs
« on: 13 July 2018, 11:56:08 PM »
Black smoke could be oil. If the airbox is clean then it probably isn't getting in from the crankcase breather, which makes it more likely to be a knackered valve stem seal.
Can you pin it down to a particular cylinder by looking at the state of the plugs? If they all look the same then it'll probably be an exhaust valve seal and taking the downpipes off should identify which cylinder.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Fuel tank tap
« on: 13 July 2018, 01:12:59 PM »
There are two inline filters. There is an advantage in not having the filter on the tap anyway, you’ll gain access to about a litre of fuel that can’t otherwise be used.

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General / Re: what did you do with your fazer today ?
« on: 10 July 2018, 02:56:36 PM »
That took longer than I’d hoped, largely due to the fact that I couldn’t find my circlip pliers… wasted about 4 hours searching through the crap in my house before giving up and sacrificing a pair of normal pliers to my angle grinder.
Anyhow, the old piston is showing signs of wear so it looks like that might have been the cause. I didn’t look too closely at the cylinder, but it’s probably time to junk it since it is the original.



Anyone know what the approved method of getting that seal on the piston is? It looked to me as if it would be easier to put it on at the spring end and wind it up the spiral, but figured that risks the rubber getting cut by the edges so I pushed it on from the lever end.

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General / Re: RIP William Dunlop
« on: 08 July 2018, 09:07:24 AM »

Oh what sad news. I’d no idea this had happened, you need to dig a long way into Sports News on the BBC before this gets a mention.
So sorry for the family… they’ve been decimated by racing accidents over the years.

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General / Re: what did you do with your fazer today ?
« on: 08 July 2018, 08:44:41 AM »

The engine seemed to be labouring as I rode into Pirbright yesterday afternoon. I came to a halt at a T-junction and realised the front brakes were binding.
Spent a sweaty 20 minutes at the side of the road trying to diagnose the cause, but the pistons in the calipers were moving freely and once back on the bike the brakes seemed to be working normally again.
I continued (favouring the back brake) without any recurrence of the problem. I guess it was caused by the master cylinder, I’ll change the seals and hope that fixes it.

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General / Re: Clever pony.
« on: 03 July 2018, 10:13:05 PM »
Strange. Things with a belly that big usually prefer Harley Davidsons.

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For Sale & Wanted / Re: Wanted - FZS 600 Centre Stand
« on: 15 June 2018, 02:08:06 PM »
It might be best to bend it back to shape and get it welded… preferably with some extra bracing.

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The Laboratory ! / Re: Flickr test because fuck Photobucket.
« on: 14 June 2018, 02:54:48 PM »

Well now Postimage has made a nuisance of themselves: they changed the address slightly in April so all earlier links are now pointing to the wrong place. Bastards!
(Shouldn’t moan really since it’s a free service, but even so…)
Anyway .org in any old link should now be .cc and it’ll work again.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Radiator
« on: 13 June 2018, 06:05:58 PM »
...
I was looking at these https://www.ebay.ie/itm/Aluminium-Racing-Radiator-for-Yamaha-FZS600-Fazer-1998-2003-Engine-2002-2001/253252829705?hash=item3af70b8209:g:dZQAAOSwY~1aIPjT#shpCntId anyone has used these before.


Also yesterday i was removing the old rad and one of the nuts that holds the rad fan were locked and i had to use extra force to get it out after hitting it up. When i took the rad off the fan blades came off the fan. I am not sure if this was just sitting there - which i dont think so or it was glued. I tried to put it back but i don't seem to figure out how did it came out...


That looks good to me. At least, it doesn’t have the problem I experienced with cheap Chinese copies where the angle of the inlet port is wrong.
I’ve just looked back at the old post where I wrote about this and found the pics were not loading so I’ve fixed that.
As for the fan, it's a fiddly thing that serves no purpose in my experience... so mine now hangs on the garage wall.  :lol

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General / Re: Best way to lube chain when bike is on sidestand?
« on: 09 June 2018, 11:52:40 PM »
Just refill the Scottoiler. :)

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