Author Topic: Jordan (Read 13532 times)

maddog04 · « **on:** 04 February 2015, 10:20:22 am »

good on yer

slappy · « **Reply #1 on:** 04 February 2015, 01:03:09 pm »

Lets hope more countries follow suit, but I very much doubt it.

lew600fazer · « **Reply #2 on:** 04 February 2015, 01:23:56 pm »

Every convicted ISIS member being held in a country that still is sensible enough to carry out the death penalty must be crapping themselves. Call me a savage, seeing as oil is cheap, lets do like for like burn the bastards. Well done Jordan

alan09 · « **Reply #3 on:** 04 February 2015, 05:27:12 pm »

Jeez could you see the UK executing a failed ISIS suicide bomber, our government wouldn't even take her council house off her $:\$

BBROWN1664 · « **Reply #4 on:** 04 February 2015, 05:39:38 pm »

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our government wouldn't even take her council house off her $:\$

More likely to give her a house and invite her family over too.

adeejaysdelight · « **Reply #5 on:** 04 February 2015, 06:19:53 pm »

It's about time someone grew a pair and stood up to these scumf**ks.

This planet needs to eradicated of these extremist psychopaths.

Fed up hearing these hemp wearing flag burners banging on about human rights pish. When you behave like an animal, you waiver your human rights as far as I'm concerned. Maybe if the hippies were getting shot at or set on fire they also would like to see ISIS being wiped out.

odbguy · « **Reply #6 on:** 04 February 2015, 06:26:25 pm »

Quote from: BBROWN1664 on 04 February 2015, 05:39:38 pm

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our government wouldn't even take her council house off her $:\$

More likely to give her a house and invite her family over too.

Haha actually lol'd at these comments. ..

Radio 2 was discussing this the other day and they was talking about it been said to ban all media reporting on terrorist action ..
It obviously wouldn't be an easy process, but was done back in the IRA/Thatcher days ... Things these days wouldn't be quite so simple but it could work ...
Think it would actually make any difference though? ? I myself doubt it very much !!

Stupid Luke · « **Reply #7 on:** 04 February 2015, 09:30:17 pm »

Quote from: BBROWN1664 on 04 February 2015, 05:39:38 pm

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our government wouldn't even take her council house off her $:\$

More likely to give her a house and invite her family over too.

Perhaps we should start hanging all these would be Jihadists that are either leaving or returning to the Midlands from their terrorist training camp (or as they call it holiday in Turkey).

VNA - BMW Wank · « **Reply #8 on:** 05 February 2015, 01:07:13 pm »

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More likely to give her a house and invite her family over too.

Maybe the UK should review it's funding of ISIS

lew600fazer · « **Reply #9 on:** 05 February 2015, 02:14:27 pm »

Hell of a statement UK government funding of ISIS, don't just say it, back it up with proof. If you cannot back it up and I mean show actual proof, not what you heard down the pub,

shut the feck up.

dazza · « **Reply #10 on:** 05 February 2015, 02:17:40 pm »

VNA - BMW Wank · « **Reply #11 on:** 05 February 2015, 03:11:27 pm »

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/iraq-crisis-sunni-caliphate-has-been-bankrolled-by-saudi-arabia-9533396.html

You should read up a little on Wahhabism Lew.

Our good friends the Saudi's are spreading this ideology around the globe.

So in other words when we do business with Saudi Arabia we are doing business with the people who fund The Taliban, ISIS etc etc.

Then we send our soldiers off to fight and die fighting those we have created or funded.

Chopping off a few heads in Jordan. Oh yeah that'll sort of em all out - eh?

Robbie8666 · « **Reply #12 on:** 05 February 2015, 03:33:56 pm »

When I 1st saw this topic I thought what has Katie Price done now!!

slappy · « **Reply #13 on:** 05 February 2015, 04:33:22 pm »

Quote from: Robbie8666 on 05 February 2015, 03:33:56 pm

When I 1st saw this topic I thought what has Katie Price done now!!

Well, there are quite a few tits on this forum!

Phil · « **Reply #14 on:** 05 February 2015, 05:15:27 pm »

Quote from: VNA on 05 February 2015, 03:11:27 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/iraq-crisis-sunni-caliphate-has-been-bankrolled-by-saudi-arabia-9533396.html

You should read up a little on Wahhabism Lew.

Our good friends the Saudi's are spreading this ideology around the globe.

So in other words when we do business with Saudi Arabia we are doing business with the people who fund The Taliban, ISIS etc etc.

Then we send our soldiers off to fight and die fighting those we have created or funded.

Chopping off a few heads in Jordan. Oh yeah that'll sort of em all out - eh?

That's a bit like saying America funded the IRA. Its probably true that some funding came from within America.

At the end of that article you will find this.

In a number of articles in June we made reference to funding for the terrorist organisation Isis having been channelled to the group from Saudi Arabia. The Saudi Embassy has asked us to make clear that the position of the Saudi Arabian government is unequivocal condemnation of the actions of Isis and its members and that the Kingdom has taken positive action to discourage any private funding or support for Isis or other extremists by Saudi citizens for ISIS. Since March 2014 the Saudi government has blacklisted religious extremist groups in the Kingdom, criminalising affiliation to, or participation in the activities of, organisations such as Isis. (Statement added 23/9/14)

Now whether you believe that is another matter. Have they prosecuted anyone?

ps No sanctions against Saudi Arabia. If they were totally behind IS do you think everyone would still trade with them?
http://www.bscn.nl/sanctions-consulting/sanctions-list-countries

Rexr · « **Reply #15 on:** 05 February 2015, 05:29:27 pm »

Quote from: lew600fazer on 04 February 2015, 01:23:56 pm

Every convicted ISIS member being held in a country that still is sensible enough to carry out the death penalty must be crapping themselves. Call me a savage, seeing as oil is cheap, lets do like for like burn the bastards. Well done Jordan

Agreed......

taylor · « **Reply #16 on:** 05 February 2015, 08:05:29 pm »

I live in wales, we used to have collection boxes in one pub on a Friday ,

lew600fazer · « **Reply #17 on:** 05 February 2015, 10:38:16 pm »

So copied and pasted an article from the Independent. I did not read anything in that article that said the UK is funding ISIS.

VNA, you said maybe the UK should review it's funding of ISIS.
So we trade with Saudi Arabia, we also trade with North Korea, Russia and every other fecker. Sadly it is how the world of business works, I may not like you but I have to trade with you sad but true.

If you are saying that by trading with the Saudi's we are assisting Saudi funding of ISIS then I suppose we are along with every other nation that buys oil from Saudi, so do not just point the finger at the UK and say it is all our fault.

risticuss · « **Reply #18 on:** 05 February 2015, 11:17:16 pm »

Perfectly okay for Christian Kings to go and massacre Muslims in far off countries during the middle ages and call it a crusade. Or to denounce pagan god, spread rumours about voodoo or depose indigenous people in other places. When will we learn that everyone is as bad as each other, it's just a matter of the historical time line.

I agree that their crimes are abhorrent, but an eye for an eye simply doesn't work. Nothing seems to, it only makes their resolve stronger. All that will happen is that IS will say they died for the cause and dub them martyrs.

lew600fazer · « **Reply #19 on:** 05 February 2015, 11:30:49 pm »

I'm all for that sooner they are all fecking martyrs the better.

maddog04 · « **Reply #20 on:** 06 February 2015, 12:33:50 pm »

I know a guy that disappears every 6 months

told me that when the enemy runs outta bullets, they stand up and start shouting to allah..........he says if they want to meet allah then he'll help them on their way....bang bang

fazed · « **Reply #21 on:** 06 February 2015, 04:14:22 pm »

Isis are the guys that throw gays off tall buildings for being gay but say its fine to marry a NINE YEAR OLD girl as well as enslaving Yazidi and Christian minority women after exterminating the men and boys (all of them were unarmed - naturally) it's also ok burning helpless prisoners alive in addition to beheading a volunteer aid worker just because he was a white christian. Religious Nazis can be negotiated with........ They need stopping - NOW. Hope the Jordanians take no prisoners.

lew600fazer · « **Reply #22 on:** 06 February 2015, 06:05:26 pm »

Quote from: fazed on 06 February 2015, 04:14:22 pm

Isis are the guys that throw gays off tall buildings for being gay but say its fine to marry a NINE YEAR OLD girl as well as enslaving Yazidi and Christian minority women after exterminating the men and boys (all of them were unarmed - naturally) it's also ok burning helpless prisoners alive in addition to beheading a volunteer aid worker just because he was a white christian. Religious Nazis can be negotiated with........ They need stopping - NOW. Hope the Jordanians take no prisoners.

playing my tune there fazed could not agree more.

VNA - BMW Wank · « **Reply #23 on:** 06 February 2015, 06:10:55 pm »

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Now whether you believe that is another matter.

One word Phil - No.

I would ask you this, seeing as Isis have millions, many many millions, well they are cash rich, you might want to consider where that money is coming from. A simple google search will give you some clues. They are seriously well funded. And I think you will find that it is our allies that fund ISIS.

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I agree that their crimes are abhorrent, but an eye for an eye simply doesn't work. Nothing seems to, it only makes their resolve stronger. All that will happen is that IS will say they died for the cause and dub them martyrs.

ISIS are doing the running here, and they have plenty of funding. Totally agree risticuss.

Jordan needed to ask - what does ISIS want us to do - how do they wish us to react. I would suggest that Jordan reacted and acted exactly as ISIS wished them to.

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Religious Nazis can be negotiated with........

I feel a Godwin's law moment may almost be upon us. But fazed I think that was attempted, failed and 5 million Jews were exterminated along with disable folks, Roma, gays and others, not to mention a word war.

Lew,

I don't think you will find many journalists with a better understanding of the Middle East than Robert Fisk. Patrick Cockburn (who also writes for the Indy) is another. To my surprise newsnight last night had Patrick on to discuss ISIS.

lew600fazer · « **Reply #24 on:** 06 February 2015, 06:23:25 pm »

You stated the UK needs to review it's funding, implying the UK Goverment openly fund ISIS then you post a quote from a newspaper as your proof.
I assume you do realise that these ISIS guys will quite happily chop your head off for absolutly no reason at all. They are not playing with a full deck.
Heaven forbid if they actually comit an atrocity in Israel, Jordan has responded and acted basically you do 1 of ours we will do 2 of yours. If they hit the Israel hard stand by for Gulf war 3 because the Israelis will not fanny about.