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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Broken speedo drive and worn wheel bearings
« on: 27 November 2018, 02:50:08 PM »
Thanks for the link to the parts manual, very useful!

Picked up some bearings today, seals and new rotor should be arriving at a dealer tomorrow. Then just to see if the tyre fitter will foot the bill...

FZS600 Fazer / Broken speedo drive and worn wheel bearings
« on: 26 November 2018, 07:17:55 PM »
Evening all,

For the past couple of weeks I've had an intermittent squeak from the front of my 2003 FZS600, I thought it was just the calipers binding again as they've not had a proper strip down in my ownership. It got bad enough this morning that I could hear it when riding along at low-ish speeds, rather than just when in traffic as previously, then around ~40 on the way home this evening.

Took the front pads off tonight... still something rubbing on the wheel.

Took the wheel off... the lugs on the inner sleeve of the speedo drive were broken off and the whole thing was rather dry and smelling a bit burnt. I don't think it was lined up properly when I had the tyre replaced a few weeks ago, so the lugs broke off, but jammed in place so as to keep it turning, and put sufficient force on it to cook the grease away.


Also both front wheel bearings have got a bit of a notch in them despite looking new, unsure if the sideways load from the wedged speedo drive could've caused that, or just normal wear.

Does anyone have the numbers for the right hand front wheel bearing and seal (couldn't read that side)? I'm going to drop by a bearing shop tomorrow to see if they can get me a replacement set.

I'm going to see if I can get the broken bits pegged back on, but failing that, does anyone happen to have a speedo drive assembly (or even just the inner sleeve) lying around?


EDIT: Took a picture of the thing

FZS600 Fazer / Re: What have you done to your FZS600 bike today
« on: 07 October 2018, 05:10:17 PM »
Today I battled my way into the timing cover to check the valve clearances, all in spec... except ONE SODDING VALVE.

Debating leaving it since its <0.01mm too tight, but out of spec is out of spec...

FZS600 Fazer / Re: What have you done to your FZS600 bike today
« on: 07 October 2018, 11:06:00 AM »
What d'ya call that then, a Kim Kardashian seat?

I call it "I'm a special fragile snowflake and the standard seat isn't supportive enough", but I like your name too :D

FZS600 Fazer / Re: What have you done to your FZS600 bike today
« on: 06 October 2018, 05:59:36 PM »
Cleaned the sludge out from under the chain guard to stop it dripping back down and around the wheel, oiled the chain, then finally got round to making a proper top layer of foam for my seat:

Up next, a cover, to replace the bin bags I've been sitting on since February or so!

FZS600 Fazer / Re: What have you done to your FZS600 bike today
« on: 09 August 2018, 08:01:15 PM »
I've been getting achey hands on the Fazer which have gotten worse over time and I keep catching myself leaning on them, so on some advice I got a set of bar risers to try out:

Bars are currently spaced 20mm away, the kit includes extra 5mm and 10mm spacers to move them even further if necessary, but this is already pushing the brake hose a bit, so I'll have to get a longer one made if I stick with them. Rest of the cables have plenty of slack, and the bar mounts being angled means it doesn't hit the fairing at full lock :)

That gap is bothering me though... I'll have to get a deeper clamp top and skim it to fit!

FZS600 Fazer / Re: Chaaaaiiiiin
« on: 26 July 2018, 11:10:34 PM »
Just dug the tool out and this is the kind I used. Its rather comical to watch some of the tools spinning around off-center as you wind the bolt in.

Having spent the past couple of hours looking at chain riveters, the KM500 tool (and some of its knockoffs) seem to come highly recommended, and I like the look of how they work. I've read in several places that the VX chains require use of the super duper newer KM500R tool, which has a (somehow) slightly different pin, I'm not sure how much to trust that though.

FZS600 Fazer / Chaaaaiiiiin
« on: 26 July 2018, 08:54:29 PM »
Just did a (too) quick adjustment of my chain, took it out for a test run around the block and when I got back it was hot to touch (goes tight-slack-tight-slack as the wheel turns) :eek

Its too unevenly worn to get in spec through its full rotation, so I'm looking at ordering a DID 530VX chain, but DID don't make split links for them. Last time I tried fitting a rivet link (on a DID 520 or 525VX), the head of the rivet failed and sheared sideways before mushrooming out to the expected diameter, I'm not sure if it was bad luck and I got a faulty link, the budget chain riveter I was using, or somehow my technique. Luckily a local shop had a split link for it.

Has anyone else had a chain rivet fail using one of the budget tools? I don't really want to spend £100+ on a professional riveting tool, but if thats what it takes...

Alternatively I could relive my 125 days and get a plain chain without any kind of seals...

General / Tool storage
« on: 07 April 2018, 01:32:14 PM »
Thought I'd sort out a tool kit to keep on the Fazer today, so got out the kit I used to carry under the seat on my old GS500 and...

The tray under the seat of the GS was pretty bad; it'd end up with water and dirt from the road under it sometimes. So the tools were wrapped in plastic bags (which wore through) and then a rag, which mostly kept water /in/ rather than out from the looks of it.

The fazer under-seat tray looks clean, so hopefully I'm already ahead, but any bright ideas on bags/etc for storing tools in which might actually keep them dry? Ideally ones which could keep a thin mist of oil inside them too.


General / Re: what did you do with your fazer today ?
« on: 06 April 2018, 06:35:47 PM »
Fitted a new battery and front sprocket+nut. Sprocket cover went back on with about half of the gasket that was there when I took it off last time.

Never seen a bike with a gasket around the sprocket cover before, is it worth worrying about replacing it? The back and bottom of its open anyway...

Eh, ordered a new plain sprocket for the sake of £12, the nylon can't be doing much damping on mine anyway.

Stay tuned for it somehow rattling like a set of tracks.

Thanks for the replies, that clears that mystery up.

bandit - Do you suggest replacing the sprocket just because the nylon has broken up? I see no reason not to do it at the same time, but if I change the front sprocket I'll be tempted to do the chain at the same time, then the rear sprocket too (both worn, but not enough that I'd normally replace them yet)...

As for nylon vs. plain steel sprocket, does the nylon ring make much of a difference? I'm guessing it only has an impact when switching between acceleration and overrun since the teeth would keep the chain loaded sideways the rest of the time?

FZS600 Fazer / Checked under my sprocket cover today... what is this?
« on: 22 March 2018, 02:29:22 PM »
So I finally got round to taking the sprocket cover off to check the nut today, and I've not seen a sprocket like this before.

It looks like some kind of plastic or resin was moulded around the sprocket, going out so far that the remaining parts touch the chain side plates. What weirdness have I stumbled onto?

I've also got the old 9mm thick nut, which I've read should be upgraded to a 12mm thick one, but there's only ~1mm of thread exposed on  the end of the output shaft. Do I need to change more than just the nut and locktab?


For Sale & Wanted / For sale: Suzuki GS500
« on: 19 February 2018, 04:11:15 PM »
For sale a 2005 Suzuki GS500, selling because I got the Fazer.

The frame could do with some paint in places and there are multiple cosmetic knocks from a previous life as a school bike, but goes/stops fine and will get you where you want to go. There's a rattle from the engine which is most noticable at tickover, I'm 99% sure this is just camshaft endfloat, as these engines are prone to.

Has recently had a new battery and the tyres/pads/chain/sprockets have plenty of life left in them.

Comes with two keys, service history and MOT until mid-June.

I have a Haynes manual for it and a new oil filter which I will throw in if the buyer wants them.

Milage is 50k.

Bike is in West End, Southampton.

Offers in the region of £650 please.

General / Re: what did you do with your fazer today ?
« on: 19 February 2018, 04:00:18 PM »
Fitted rear hugger today.

Not quite happy with the clearance between it and the tyre on one side - I think a stone could get stuck in the tread and damage it, gradually fettling it by filing the mounting slots longer and adding strategic washers as spacers.

FZS600 Fazer / Re: New toy
« on: 02 February 2018, 12:44:11 PM »
ok im going to rephrase that
where did you get the fender extender from ?

Oh, right.

eBay: Pyramid Extenda Fenda For Yamaha 2003 FZS600 Fazer 05214

FZS600 Fazer / Re: New toy
« on: 02 February 2018, 12:35:02 PM »
i am normally a minimalist but i like that idea
where did that come from ?

Mainly my GS500 rusting away, also found a load of dirt and flaking paint on the radiator crossmember, which might not've been there if this were fitted sooner.

Speaking of which, just been poking around the radiator crossmember and I don't think I can tidy it up without taking the radiator off, so that's for another time :(

Also found more spots of surface rust around the upper frame behind the fairing, hopefully I'm not fighting a losing battle in trying to get it like-new-ish.

FZS600 Fazer / Re: New toy
« on: 01 February 2018, 11:54:25 PM »
Fenda Extenda™ fitted.

FZS600 Fazer / Re: New toy
« on: 31 January 2018, 09:00:45 PM »
Slowly getting ready...

Earlier in the week I finished repainting the center stand. Today I finished touching up the bottom of the frame... then found flaky paint and rust on the crossmember behind the radiator, one more job.

Seat is progressing, as of this afternoon the shape of the "structural" foam is mostly complete:

Oh god, I keep grinning thinking about being done with these jobs and switching to it as my daily soon :D

FZS600 Fazer / Re: New toy
« on: 24 January 2018, 06:29:52 PM »
Today I started work on my frustratingly necessary custom seat. After comparing the (modified) seat on my GS500 and the one on the Fazer, I came to the conclusion that in addition to more width, I needed to make the Fazer seat come forward around the tank a little more so more of my weight is supported by my legs... which is how this... construction came into existence.

Still a few days of work left in it - I need to bevel and tweak the frame to be more comfortable, reinforce the base a little, add some extra pads near the front to support it from the bike frame, build up the new foam on top of it all, then once I'm happy with that, make a cover to fit it.

Oh, and probably fit lowering links so my feet can touch the floor properly by the time I'm done. Does anyone know what the distance between bolt centers on a standard set of links is so I can check if its already been lowered/raised?

FZS600 Fazer / Re: New toy
« on: 22 January 2018, 08:58:51 PM »

Fixed profile. I'm not worried about problems with the huggers, just unsure which is going to do the best job of keeping crap off the bike, since there are several designs for the same model. The middle one of those looks to have the most plastic, which in my mind means it'll catch more.

FZS600 Fazer / New toy
« on: 22 January 2018, 03:21:51 PM »
Per my thread in the introduction forum, I got myself a shiny new FZS600 the other day :)

This afternoon's job was taking the center stand off and starting to tidy up the frame around its mounting brackets:
I'm after a rear hugger for it, but out of the several on eBay I'm not sure which to go for. From squinting at the photographs in the listings, I think this one made by P&P Motorcycle Bodywork has the most coverage of the wheel and chain, but is that what I should be looking for?


Introduction / Re: New FZS600 owner
« on: 22 January 2018, 03:06:32 PM »
I get the impression you're well capable

That accusation has never been proven!

Introduction / Re: New FZS600 owner
« on: 21 January 2018, 03:27:44 PM »
Not to sound negative in the last post though, still happy I bought it :)

The Laboratory ! / test
« on: 21 January 2018, 03:26:04 PM »

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