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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #375 on: 19 November 2018, 08:39:22 pm »
This thread is better than watching the news about Brexit  :lol :lol :lol

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #376 on: 19 November 2018, 09:56:13 pm »
Agree. Well, better than watching the BBC 'news' about it :lol

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #377 on: 19 November 2018, 11:55:47 pm »
OK here's a more straightforward example




Under Article 13 of the draft transition agreement between UK and EU:


''Union citizens and United Kingdom nationals shall have the right to reside in the host State
under the limitations and conditions''

As I said I've read it :)


So under a No Deal scenario,  that will not apply and from the 30th March when we leave the EU with no deal, all UK citizens living in EU countries lose their right to residency, and can be sent home.


Everybody happy with that? Or didn't you realise?

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #378 on: 19 November 2018, 11:58:28 pm »
And just to stimulate discussion, here's today's picture :)




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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #379 on: 20 November 2018, 07:53:47 am »

OK here's a more straightforward example




Under Article 13 of the draft transition agreement between UK and EU:


''Union citizens and United Kingdom nationals shall have the right to reside in the host State
under the limitations and conditions''

As I said I've read it :)


So under a No Deal scenario,  that will not apply and from the 30th March when we leave the EU with no deal, all UK citizens living in EU countries lose their right to residency, and can be sent home.


Everybody happy with that? Or didn't you realise?


Doesn't bother me. I've got no intention of living anywhere else.


I'd imagine that they'd come up with some sort of similar residency deal to the one in the draft agreement after we leave with no deal.

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #380 on: 20 November 2018, 08:59:06 am »

I like the picture by the way. Here's an alternative version of the script...






'Who are we?'......'Remainers!'


'What do we want?'......'A fourth referendum!'


'When do we want it?'.....'After we've lost the second and third!'


 :lol

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #381 on: 20 November 2018, 10:18:02 am »
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Doesn't bother me. I've got no intention of living anywhere else.


So you're quite happy to explain to the Forum members on here living in the EU why you want them sent home then? Typical selfish Brexiteer.




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I'd imagine that they'd come up with some sort of similar residency deal [/size]
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[/size][size=78%]You imagine! What do you think has been going on for the last two and a half years covering residency and everything else that's important. It's called a deal, which is clearly what you lot don't want.[/size]

Honestly, does the attention span of Brexiteers not go beyond what's written on a bus. :rolleyes

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #382 on: 20 November 2018, 11:33:33 am »

We don't want the deal that's currently on offer no.


I don't want those forum members sent home. I'm not bothered either way. It's nice to go on holiday but actually living abroad has never appealed to me one iota, so I have zero interest in the matter.

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #383 on: 20 November 2018, 11:51:57 am »
But that is the inevitable consequence of not having a deal with the EU by 29th March. It is what you do want.  :rolleyes




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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #384 on: 20 November 2018, 11:56:49 am »
Hang on a minute, I'll just check what's written on the bus.....

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #385 on: 20 November 2018, 12:15:24 pm »
I wonder how many UK nationals living in the EU voted Leave
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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #386 on: 20 November 2018, 12:20:56 pm »

I wonder how many UK nationals living in the EU voted Leave


I'd laugh if it's loads of them and they've basically just signed their own deportation orders :lol

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #387 on: 20 November 2018, 12:27:42 pm »
No one need be deported if both sides are sensible about it. Except those living in a country illegally. The sooner they are deported, the better. One thing about May's deal that is good is that those living and working here already can stay. Thereafter, those wishing to come here must fit the UK's requirements, which are not unreasonable, and is a sensible thing to do.

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #388 on: 20 November 2018, 12:29:51 pm »
Yes, they're all going to be deported and their properties bulldozed. :rolleyes
Exactly the sort of scaremongering we've been bombarded with throughout.
This isn't the Gaza strip we're talking about.
Please don't tell me you actually believe that'll happen.  :z

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #389 on: 20 November 2018, 12:44:13 pm »
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I wonder how many UK nationals living in the EU voted Leave


None. If they weren't on the electoral roll in the UK, they didn't get a vote


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Please don't tell me you actually believe that'll happen.  [/size]


What is it about 'No Deal' that you don't understand? So you like playing 'chicken' then?

The EU have made it clear that the current (agreed) deal can't be amended. We can't pick and choose what we want from it.



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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #390 on: 20 November 2018, 12:52:48 pm »

Hang on a minute, I'll just check what's written on the bus.....


I've just seen that bus!. Some remoaners bought it. It's now got a slogan on the side warning that UK nationals houses will be bulldozed and they'll get deported :eek

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #391 on: 20 November 2018, 12:53:08 pm »
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One thing about May's deal that is good is that those living and working here already can stay. Thereafter, those wishing to come here must fit the UK's requirements, which are not unreasonable, and is a sensible thing to do.


Again, factually wrong. When the transition deal starts on 30th March any other EU nationals can still come and stay and work during the transition period. After that these also can stay permanently if they've lived here for 5 years. Oh and they can bring their relatives to stay permanently. It's all in Article 13.  :D

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #392 on: 20 November 2018, 12:54:37 pm »
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I wonder how many UK nationals living in the EU voted Leave

None. If they weren't on the electoral roll in the UK, they didn't get a vote

So out of all of those that did have a vote - I wonder how many voted for brexit.
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The EU have made it clear that the current (agreed) deal can't be amended.
Well of course they will say that wont they. That's called negotiating- something that May and the other morons have not got a clue how to do.
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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #393 on: 20 November 2018, 12:58:02 pm »
Hang on a minute! Who's withdrawn a post I've just replied to?

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #394 on: 20 November 2018, 01:08:01 pm »
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So out of all of those that did have a vote - I wonder how many voted for brexit.


Gibraltar (which did have a vote) is probably a good indicator - 96% Remain 4% Leave.


Now who's laughing  :lol

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #395 on: 20 November 2018, 01:15:06 pm »
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So out of all of those that did have a vote - I wonder how many voted for brexit.

Gibraltar (which did have a vote) is probably a good indicator - 96% Remain 4% Leave.


So you're quite happy to explain to the Forum members on here living in the EU why you want them sent home then? Typical selfish Brexiteer.
 
So the Brexiteers are selfish but all those that voted to remain are not selfish.
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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #396 on: 20 November 2018, 01:39:54 pm »
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One thing about May's deal that is good is that those living and working here already can stay. Thereafter, those wishing to come here must fit the UK's requirements, which are not unreasonable, and is a sensible thing to do.


Again, factually wrong. When the transition deal starts on 30th March any other EU nationals can still come and stay and work during the transition period. After that these also can stay permanently if they've lived here for 5 years. Oh and they can bring their relatives to stay permanently. It's all in Article 13.  :D


That's ok, because I want this deal to be rejected in Parliament, which it will be. Under a no deal exit, which is the only other option the EU will accept, we can decide for ourselves who stays and who comes in. It won't matter to you, because if Brexit goes through, you'll move to the EU. Everybody happy!  :)

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #397 on: 20 November 2018, 01:40:55 pm »
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So the Brexiteers are selfish but all those that voted to remain are not selfish.


Well done, you've got it at last  :)


Remainers want Forum members to live wherever they choose.

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #398 on: 20 November 2018, 01:47:06 pm »

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I wonder how many UK nationals living in the EU voted Leave


None. If they weren't on the electoral roll in the UK, they didn't get a vote



Why is there a full stop after the word 'None'?.


I've just looked it up. If they'd appeared on the electoral role within the previous 15 years then they were eligible to vote.




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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #399 on: 20 November 2018, 01:54:43 pm »
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That's ok, because I want this deal to be rejected in Parliament,
Well at least that's one thing we want the same :\


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we can decide for ourselves who stays and who comes in.
And so can the entire EU, or is that concept too difficult to grasp?