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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #325 on: 18 November 2018, 06:47:09 pm »
Scottish Independence Chap, I'm still waiting for your reply to:




And we should listen to you because...?

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #326 on: 18 November 2018, 06:58:16 pm »
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They know full well us leaving would seriously wound them.
Sorry – so May should – pull out a loaded gun, point it at her own heid, and shout at Barnier “This is going to seriously wound you!” then pull the trigger!


I see. :eek
 
Yes it would seriously wound Barnier because her head would be is up his arse just like it has been for 2 years

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #327 on: 18 November 2018, 06:58:53 pm »
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Now, I don't care what the draft deal says, it is time we just walked away from that snake pit.
I agree ditch the draft deal and cancel article 50 - job done.

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #328 on: 18 November 2018, 07:19:24 pm »
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Now, I don't care what the draft deal says, it is time we just walked away from that snake pit.
I agree ditch the draft deal and cancel any further attempts to make a deal with the EU - job done.


At last, we agree on something  :rollin


Pity, as your view from your anti-UK position counts for less than nothing  ;)

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #329 on: 18 November 2018, 07:24:39 pm »
Scottish Independence Chap, I'm still waiting for your reply to:




And we should listen to you because...?


Are you struggling with this one VNA? What's up, having trouble with the English language?  :lol

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #330 on: 18 November 2018, 07:41:37 pm »
Scottish Independence Chap, I'm still waiting for your reply to:




And we should listen to you because...?


Are you struggling with this one VNA? What's up, having trouble with the English language?  :lol


Why are we waiting
VNA's hesitating


 :rollin


I guess he must be realising the hypocrisy of his position.
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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #331 on: 18 November 2018, 07:45:41 pm »
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mtread, what qualifications and experience do you have that give you more knowledge than him?    You're a former...what, exactly?



I'm a retired HM Customs & Excise policy maker,  and law and regulation implementer. That good enough for you?  :b

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #332 on: 18 November 2018, 07:52:58 pm »
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mtread, what qualifications and experience do you have that give you more knowledge than him?    You're a former...what, exactly?



I'm a retired HM Customs & Excise policy maker,  and law and regulation implementer. That good enough for you?  :b



Retired? Then no, it's not good enough for me, since a former Aussie PM isn't good enough for you  :lol

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #333 on: 18 November 2018, 07:56:17 pm »
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mtread, what qualifications and experience do you have that give you more knowledge than him?    You're a former...what, exactly?



I'm a retired HM Customs & Excise policy maker,  and law and regulation implementer. That good enough for you?  :b



Retired? Then no, it's not good enough for me, since a former Aussie PM isn't good enough for you  :lol
Touché
And yes the irony of that phrase I have not missed - given the conversation  subject
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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #334 on: 18 November 2018, 07:56:30 pm »
Yeah Hedgetrimmer, you don't accept  anything unless it fits your Brexit Brick Wall. Here's your new ballot paper.

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #335 on: 18 November 2018, 07:58:12 pm »
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touché


Hardly....  :D

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #336 on: 18 November 2018, 08:02:26 pm »
Yeah Hedgetrimmer, you don't accept  anything unless it fits your Brexit Brick Wall.




Mmhmm? And what of your Remain one?  ;)   :wall :lol

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #337 on: 18 November 2018, 08:08:49 pm »
Scottish Independence Chap, I'm still waiting for your reply to:




And we should listen to you because...?


Are you struggling with this one VNA? What's up, having trouble with the English language?  :lol


Why are we waiting
VNA's hesitating


 :rollin


I guess he must be realising the hypocrisy of his position.
You just know he's googling shit so he can come back with a load of pointless anonymous quotes and handpicked unproven  supposed facts along with plethora of eyelid closing waffle. :lol :lol :lol

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #338 on: 18 November 2018, 08:10:53 pm »
Meanwhile, I'm just continuing to take the piss ;)


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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #339 on: 18 November 2018, 08:13:18 pm »
Meanwhile, I'm just continuing to take the piss ;)


Because that's all you've got left  :lol

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #340 on: 18 November 2018, 08:14:12 pm »
You just know he's googling shit so he can come back with a load of pointless anonymous quotes and handpicked unproven  supposed facts along with plethora of eyelid closing waffle. :lol :lol :lol


Depressing isn't it. Probably thinks we'll all read them too  :lol

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #341 on: 18 November 2018, 08:26:30 pm »
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mtread, what qualifications and experience do you have that give you more knowledge than him?    You're a former...what, exactly?



I'm a retired HM Customs & Excise policy maker,  and law and regulation implementer. That good enough for you?  :b



Retired? Then no, it's not good enough for me, since a former Aussie PM isn't good enough for you  :lol

 I was thinking oh no Hedgetrimmer's focced :'( , then the genius reply saves the day  :lol

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #342 on: 18 November 2018, 08:35:48 pm »

 I was thinking oh no Hedgetrimmer's focced :'( , then the genius reply saves the day  :lol


You're not likely to be focced in this argument when you're on the side of democracy, YamFazFan.
It seems ze Germans along with the French are getting ready to enforce their vision of ze fourth Reich on the rest of Europe. Hopefully, just by political means this time, but it still illustrates their dislike of democracy.
It doesn't seem long ago we were getting a hammering for our old empire, and enforcing our way on others around the world. But now, suddenly, it's ok if the Franco-German "visionaries" want to do it to the rest of Europe. History shows us too that expansionism knows no bounds.

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #343 on: 18 November 2018, 08:58:07 pm »
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You're not likely to be focced in this argument when you're on the side of democracy,
I take it you'd be quite happy with another referendum then? Just to reinforce the Leave vote of course? After all,  you've got nothing to lose....


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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #344 on: 18 November 2018, 09:00:20 pm »
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You're not likely to be focced in this argument when you're on the side of democracy, YamFazFan.
It seems ze Germans along with the French are getting ready to enforce their vision of ze fourth Reich on the rest of Europe. Hopefully, just by political means this time, but it still illustrates their dislike of democracy.
It doesn't seem long ago we were getting a hammering for our old empire, and enforcing our way on others around the world. But now, suddenly, it's ok if the Franco-German "visionaries" want to do it to the rest of Europe. History shows us too that expansionism knows no bounds.
Help ma boab!
 Presumably you are in with the fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists of UKIP.   :eek :eek
 

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #345 on: 18 November 2018, 09:01:32 pm »
 Mtread, if possible, and seeing as you have some experience and expertise in this area, could you explain to the forum, briefly and in layman’s terms, what is likely to happen after 29th march 2019 if the UK were to crash out of the EU with no deal? 
 

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #346 on: 18 November 2018, 10:03:43 pm »


 I was thinking oh no Hedgetrimmer's focced :'( , then the genius reply saves the day  :lol


You're not likely to be focced in this argument when you're on the side of democracy, YamFazFan.


Undeniably true :thumbup

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #347 on: 18 November 2018, 10:14:32 pm »

Mtread, if possible, and seeing as you have some experience and expertise in this area, could you explain to the forum, briefly and in layman’s terms, what is likely to happen after 29th march 2019 if the UK were to crash out of the EU with no deal?


You're only asking mtread because you know he's going to give an answer you agree with :lol


He might well have expertise in those areas he's stated, but that's no guarantee of an unbiased opinion ;)

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #348 on: 18 November 2018, 10:25:09 pm »
Help ma boab!
 Presumably you are in with the fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists of UKIP.   :eek :eek


You can presume what you like - ready to invoke Godwin yet?  :rolleyes 
Are you now going to tell us why we should listen to you at all? Considering your anti-UK stance?

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #349 on: 18 November 2018, 11:58:44 pm »
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You're only asking mtread because you know he's going to give an answer you agree with He might well have expertise in those areas he's stated, but that's no guarantee of an unbiased opinion




The purely technical unbiased view is that we leave without a 'transitional period'. We immediately go onto what is called '3rd Country' terms and trade with the EU as an outside country. Because we haven't joined EFTA or the EEA we would be subject to Customs controls for freight and passengers at all border points. Under EU rules we haven't agreed terms with any other countries, so by 29 March we will have no trade agreements at all, with anybody. I doubt there has been much if any preparation for this.


That's just the Customs side. Similar issues with fishing, agricultural policy, medicines, air traffic, residency rights etc etc etc.


What the consequences of all that is, short term and long term, I'll let you think about.


Has anybody here read the current draft withdrawal agreement? I have, otherwise I'd be relying on other people's biased opinions, or what's written on the side of a bus.