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Re: Rear Brake refurb
« Reply #75 on: 01 April 2020, 11:19:47 am »
ooh god - delboy got mentioned so lets just jump on in
after i split, blasted and painted my rear calipers i definatly replaced mine because after a while they do harden/deform.


the problem is using the correct material and i researched like mad into this because i didnt want to F up and use the wrong stuff like nitrile which is something delboy would prob use if he needed to replace (yeah i have problems with a lot delboys stuff)
the easiest kind of o-ring to get is made of EPDM
thankfully du-pont are chemists and let us into there world by giving a compatability list
https://mscrm-dupont.secure.force.com/CRG_TlargiGuide
https://mscrm-dupont.secure.force.com/CRG_TlargiGuide


-its your brakes - its your lives - its a couple of quid i would rather not scrimp on
Not a fan of his either, not sure what you are referring to about "o rings" brought a sealing washer for rejoining 2 halves from webmoto and pistons and seals from fowlers


Your seal from Webmoto will be fine I'm sure.  The use of Orings in place of flat seals isn't really the way to go, yes it will work, for how long I've know idea.  An Oring is made to seal around a circumference or and edge, not flat surfaces and won't have the surface contact area of the flat seal.  Flat surface area contact will be achieved by crushing the Oring which could cause deformity, which under pressure will leek. 


Yes it will work to a point, but I wouldn't recommend it.   
I have came across some croc whilst reading up. like, "soak the new seals in brake fluid to make them more supple and easier to fit" -- "don't get brake cleaner on them as it makes them brittle"
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Re: Rear Brake refurb
« Reply #76 on: 01 April 2020, 11:29:37 am »
I have came across some croc whilst reading up. like, "soak the new seals in brake fluid to make them more supple and easier to fit" -- "don't get brake cleaner on them as it makes them brittle"


More useless internet opinions by people who know nothing or very little :rolleyes


You can either just wipe the seals with a little fluid or brake grease, a little so the surface looks wet.   ;) :)
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Re: Rear Brake refurb
« Reply #77 on: 01 April 2020, 11:56:06 am »
I have came across some croc whilst reading up. like, "soak the new seals in brake fluid to make them more supple and easier to fit" -- "don't get brake cleaner on them as it makes them brittle"


More useless internet opinions by people who know nothing or very little :rolleyes


You can either just wipe the seals with a little fluid or brake grease, a little so the surface looks wet.   ;) :)
A few years ago I fitted hel lines on the front and could not find any little sachets of grease cant remember how hard I looked on the internet but none of the local car factors or bike shops had sachets like they do of copper grease so I ended up buying a whole tub  :eek   
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Re: Rear Brake refurb
« Reply #78 on: 01 April 2020, 01:04:04 pm »
ooh god - delboy got mentioned so lets just jump on in
after i split, blasted and painted my rear calipers i definatly replaced mine because after a while they do harden/deform.


the problem is using the correct material and i researched like mad into this because i didnt want to F up and use the wrong stuff like nitrile which is something delboy would prob use if he needed to replace (yeah i have problems with a lot delboys stuff)
the easiest kind of o-ring to get is made of EPDM
thankfully du-pont are chemists and let us into there world by giving a compatability list
https://mscrm-dupont.secure.force.com/CRG_TlargiGuide
https://mscrm-dupont.secure.force.com/CRG_TlargiGuide


-its your brakes - its your lives - its a couple of quid i would rather not scrimp on
Not a fan of his either, not sure what you are referring to about "o rings" brought a sealing washer for rejoining 2 halves from webmoto and pistons and seals from fowlers


Your seal from Webmoto will be fine I'm sure.  The use of Orings in place of flat seals isn't really the way to go, yes it will work, for how long I've know idea.  An Oring is made to seal around a circumference or and edge, not flat surfaces and won't have the surface contact area of the flat seal.  Flat surface area contact will be achieved by crushing the Oring which could cause deformity, which under pressure will leek. 


Yes it will work to a point, but I wouldn't recommend it.
sorry i did say o ring but ment washer its cause i have a pack sat on my desk infront of me for when i get round to rebuilding my suspension
(probably later todays lockdown project)

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Re: Rear Brake refurb
« Reply #79 on: 01 April 2020, 01:49:43 pm »
sorry i did say o ring but ment washer its cause i have a pack sat on my desk infront of me for when i get round to rebuilding my suspension
(probably later todays lockdown project)
Im confused now - what have you got in front of you.
  • a pack of proper brake halve sealing washers
  • a pack of o rings
  • a pack of rubber tap washers
  • a pack of rubber condoms
  • a pack of crisps
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Re: Rear Brake refurb
« Reply #80 on: 01 April 2020, 02:01:10 pm »
Im confused now - what have you got in front of you.
  • a pack of proper brake halve sealing washers
  • a pack of o rings
  • a pack of rubber tap washers
  • a pack of rubber condoms
  • a pack of crisps


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Re: Rear Brake refurb
« Reply #81 on: 01 April 2020, 02:30:03 pm »
pack of o-rings for my suspension rebuild on the chop --- ooh crisps :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin

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Re: Rear Brake refurb
« Reply #82 on: 01 April 2020, 07:38:19 pm »
My pistons and seals came today > fantastic service from Fowlers les than 24 hours. And am happy to confirm that it was 2 pistons  :)  even came with a little satchet of grease # cute.
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Re: Rear Brake refurb
« Reply #83 on: 01 April 2020, 08:24:51 pm »
My pistons and seals came today > fantastic service from Fowlers les than 24 hours. And am happy to confirm that it was 2 pistons  :)  even came with a little satchet of grease # cute.


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Re: Rear Brake refurb
« Reply #84 on: 02 April 2020, 09:08:57 pm »
The rest of my goodies arrived today.  My single washer from webmoto even came with a little gift
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Re: Rear Brake refurb
« Reply #85 on: 02 April 2020, 09:53:00 pm »
thats not fair   :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( i ordered my tyre valves the same day and not got them yet...
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Re: Rear Brake refurb
« Reply #86 on: 02 April 2020, 09:59:06 pm »
thats not fair   :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( i ordered my tyre valves the same day and not got them yet...
Webmoto?  They sent me the last key ring and they can't send goods out without one  :lol
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Re: Rear Brake refurb
« Reply #87 on: 02 April 2020, 10:03:55 pm »
yep,wemoto, been using them for years..........dont want a foccin keyring anyway...























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Re: Rear Brake refurb
« Reply #88 on: 02 April 2020, 10:17:45 pm »
yep,wemoto, been using them for years..........dont want a foccin keyring anyway...

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Re: Rear Brake refurb
« Reply #89 on: 02 April 2020, 10:23:36 pm »
Receiving the unexpected gift was a nice surprise > it made my day :D
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Re: Rear Brake refurb
« Reply #90 on: 02 April 2020, 10:36:24 pm »
nah nah nah nah nah... cant hear you...nah nah nah nah nah
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Re: Rear Brake refurb
« Reply #91 on: 02 April 2020, 10:51:31 pm »
nah nah nah nah nah... cant hear you...nah nah nah nah nah
You seem deflated :rollin
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Re: Rear Brake refurb
« Reply #92 on: 02 April 2020, 10:51:55 pm »
nah nah nah nah nah... cant hear you...nah nah nah nah nah

  Aw Bless. Just keep telling yourself, 'it's only a poxy keyring, it's only a poxy keyring'

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Re: Rear Brake refurb
« Reply #93 on: 03 April 2020, 04:15:17 am »
the keyrings have got better over the years they used to be those shitty hard plastic ones
they used to send out little pads of notepaper which was always handy

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Re: Rear Brake refurb
« Reply #94 on: 03 April 2020, 08:58:36 am »
oooooo...look at my keyring...


oooooo...look at my note pad...


all i want is a couple of tyre valves,i wont be fooled with cheap "gifts" they cant sell......simple minds  :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes



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Re: Rear Brake refurb
« Reply #95 on: 03 April 2020, 09:57:54 am »
 Do I sense some bitterness creeping in there? :lol

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Re: Rear Brake refurb
« Reply #96 on: 03 April 2020, 10:11:19 am »
oooooo...look at my keyring...


oooooo...look at my note pad...


all i want is a couple of tyre valves,i wont be fooled with cheap "gifts" they cant sell......simple minds  :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes


What you need is one of these



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Re: Rear Brake refurb
« Reply #97 on: 03 April 2020, 02:03:19 pm »



You seem deflated  :rollin



There's a reason for that - and it's not the keyring...


i ordered my tyre valves the same day and not got them yet...


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Re: Rear Brake refurb
« Reply #98 on: 03 April 2020, 02:11:50 pm »



You seem deflated  :rollin


There's a reason for that - and it's not the keyring...


i ordered my tyre valves the same day and not got them yet...


 :evil
That was the point of my post Jamie it was a joke, one of these  :pokefun
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Re: Rear Brake refurb
« Reply #99 on: 03 April 2020, 05:48:57 pm »
oooooo...look at my keyring...


oooooo...look at my note pad...


all i want is a couple of tyre valves,i wont be fooled with cheap "gifts" they cant sell......simple minds  :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes


What you need is one of these



 :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :D
















well i did not expect that from you GNASHER , one of a handfull of people on here who i would ask for advice and someone who i would trust....


thats got me thinking now.........are you delboy in disguise.....






did my package come today ?..........not telling  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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