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Title: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 09 August 2019, 01:51:11 pm
Hi all,


I love my FZ1 too much so for a little while I've been working on a TFT Dashboard for it. The stock clocks on the FZ1 really could do with an upgrade. Here's a screenshot of the TFT Dash in the 'blue' theme. (The Dash has multiple colour themes you can choose from).


(http://www.dannydraper.co.uk/Screenshotblue2.jpg)




The bike interface hardware has now come along quite nicely in the past few weeks, and I've just sent off for my production PCBs so I can start making a few of these.


To see my prototype in action on the bike here's a video: (The video shows the display in it's default theme with a white background - daytime mode)


https://youtu.be/YDrMt46t1s8 (https://youtu.be/YDrMt46t1s8)


A few things still need to be sorted like:
- Mounting options for the display, ideally these need to mount perfectly onto the stock bracket.
- Mounting positions for the bike interface. It is plug and play so no modification to the bikes wiring is needed. Just unplug your clocks, and plug in the TFT Dash interface.
- Software needs a little bit more tweaking.


Any info or questions, let me know.


Cheers.



Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Dudeofrude on 09 August 2019, 06:14:33 pm
That looks genuinely impressive. I reckon its be a great mod for the faired/fazer version but not sure I'd get away with on a naked one.
But yeah well done mate, it's looking great
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Mustang on 09 August 2019, 07:23:14 pm
Looks great, be interested in one of these for sure
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: ninjabika on 10 August 2019, 10:21:12 am
Looks good, would be interested in one, obviously price dependant
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: PieEater on 10 August 2019, 02:59:58 pm
Hopefully Max Speed is something that is configurable or is cleared once the ignition is off, not something you want visible if you're stopped for speeding  :'( or anything else in reality.
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: tex on 10 August 2019, 06:44:09 pm
This looks brilliant, is that a gear indicater or just neutral light
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 10 August 2019, 07:10:56 pm
Thanks all. I've been experimenting with mounting options today. Here's another video of the display mounted nicely onto the stock bracket:


https://youtu.be/EisHiCFwlZo


LOL very true about max speed - it's not saved and only records the maximum speed for the current trip. It gets cleared once the ignition is off. Only things that are saved
are:


Odo
Trip1, Trip2
Clock time is also maintained.
KM / MPH mode
Your chosen colour theme.


There is another set of information that is displayed when you press the select button which switches to another display so max speed is not shown :)


The neutral light turns into a gear indicator once you're moving. Gear indicator is calculated based on Speed & RPM. For this reason you'll have to specify your sprocket setup if you've moved from the stock setup - so it can accurately work out which gear you're in.







Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: schlumpf on 10 August 2019, 08:03:33 pm
That is very, very impressive! And I really can imagine how much time and effort went into this project to bring it to such perfection.

I'm working on my multi-gauge for more than a decade and always dreamed of such a brilliant solution. Therefore I'm very curious to learn more about the electronics behind. And maybe I can be of any help and share my learnings with you, to ease up your final work.


Just thinking loud, would it be possible to also add a kind of "Android Window" to run e.g. Google-Maps or maps.me? To have cockpit and navigation in a combined display?
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: windyg on 10 August 2019, 09:07:56 pm
That looks really impressive
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 10 August 2019, 09:10:36 pm
Many thanks! It really has been quite a challenging project with me wanting to throw it out the window and give up the whole thing on more than one occasion. I've had to refine my final schematic several times for different reasons and revise my PCB designs. I've got several final boards that are on their way to me so those hopefully should arrive next week. The electronics are actually not too complex being built around the ATmega microcontroller with several Voltage Divider circuits & Low Pass RC Filters for speed and rpm. Most of the work has been in the software - mostly coding up the firmware for the microcontroller & the software thats running on the Raspberry Pi for the high speed graphics and having these communicate reliably to one another.


I've thought about including Navigation and this will certainly be something I'd like to add in the future. My thoughts initially are around the way KTM have implemented this on their latest machines. You have an app on your phone which is communicating directional information to the Dashboard. So really it's your phone that's doing the navigation using a customised app and sending direction updates to the dashboard via bluetooth. This is certainly possible.


Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: His Dudeness on 10 August 2019, 09:57:19 pm
Very impressive ;) Would making it work on other bikes like the 600 require a total re-design or just some minor tweeking?

Bit of a thread hi-jack but would you have any recommendations for good books or sources of information on electronics used in motorbikes? Or just good books on basic electronics? :)
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: schlumpf on 11 August 2019, 12:58:36 pm
Bit of a thread hi-jack but would you have any recommendations for good books or sources of information on electronics used in motorbikes? Or just good books on basic electronics? :)
A good start might be the following projects. They provide lots of information on their wiki pages:
https://forum.arduino.cc/index.php?topic=448191.0 (https://forum.arduino.cc/index.php?topic=448191.0)
http://megasquirt.info/ (http://megasquirt.info/)
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 11 August 2019, 03:08:09 pm
Yeah Arduino forums is where i'd start.


When designing the software, I've kept other bikes fully in mind so that it wouldn't require a total redesign. The display configuration would just need tweaking to account for the different RPM range, but everything else would stay the same on the display side. The main bit of work would be the bike interface hardware, whilst the electronics would stay largely the same it would need some changes to account for the different pinouts different bikes use for the clocks. The code thats interpreting the PWM pulses might also need tweaking as I'd imagine not all Speed sensors are made all the same, the same would be true for RPM. The coolant sensor may also have a different B-value and range so maybe some tweaking there. Depending on if the bike has a float in the fuel tank or just a low fuel switch some tweaking may be needed there. Different fuel floats may also operate at a different resistance range.


Overall not a complete redesign but a bit of work.
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Geowulf on 11 August 2019, 04:13:26 pm
Yes, definitely put me down for one :)


My bike (https://photos.app.goo.gl/S3BUdQWjAh4svzreA) - The original clocks need to go!!!
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: ArchDruid on 11 August 2019, 07:59:13 pm
Really interesting development, well done.
Definitely a step up from the Multi-Gauge that I installed a few years back (in place of the analog temp & fuel indicators). I did that primarily for the gear indication, but that looks to be included in your package. Happy to hear more when the time comes.
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: BMCfaz on 14 August 2019, 03:32:21 pm
The one thing I'd want that I can't see on the display is a voltmeter. So useful, but so often ignored!
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 15 August 2019, 01:50:20 pm
A voltmeter is also included. When pressing the select button, the panel that shows the MPG, Range, Max Speed, Trip Time switches to another panel which shows, Battery Voltage, RPM (In numbers - useful if you're balancing carbs), and Exact Fuel Reading. You can toggle between the two panels.





Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Dynspud on 16 August 2019, 09:13:20 am
Proper job and looks fantastic.
Hats off to you mate - well done.
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 17 August 2019, 11:18:15 pm
Thanks so much for your comments! Thought I'd post an update on the development. Got the complete kit mounted on my bike today and took it for it's first road test with the TFT Dash mounted. Performed real nice, but me being a perfectionist I need to be happy with the values I'm seeing - a couple of tweaks to the voltage reading and fuel readings as this was fluctuating quite a bit whilst riding on the road - quite understandably as you ride your fuel in the tank will slosh about causing the float to move up and down therefore generating a range of values which need to be interpreted correctly.


Here's a video talking about the latest developments & a run through of the different menu options.


https://youtu.be/4CylaMNT9BM



Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Andrew on 19 August 2019, 01:06:03 pm
Sign me up :D
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Mustang on 19 August 2019, 07:28:28 pm
Have to say not a fan of top speed being on the main screen.
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Dudeofrude on 19 August 2019, 08:21:05 pm
Thanks so much for your comments! Thought I'd post an update on the development. Got the complete kit mounted on my bike today and took it for it's first road test with the TFT Dash mounted. Performed real nice, but me being a perfectionist I need to be happy with the values I'm seeing - a couple of tweaks to the voltage reading and fuel readings as this was fluctuating quite a bit whilst riding on the road - quite understandably as you ride your fuel in the tank will slosh about causing the float to move up and down therefore generating a range of values which need to be interpreted correctly.


Here's a video talking about the latest developments & a run through of the different menu options.


https://youtu.be/4CylaMNT9BM

I've got to ask because its driving me nuts..... why is the screen upside down? Lol
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 19 August 2019, 08:45:34 pm
Yeah I'll probably move the max speed to the secondary display so you have to press the select button to see it. As for the display being upside down - this is mainly due to the model of TFT screen I'm using, the back of it where you connect the HDMI input protrudes about 3cm which gets in the way of the mounting bracket, but if I turn it upside down and flip the image - problem solved lol.
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: crankcase on 20 August 2019, 12:50:58 am
That is some fantastic work! I actually registered on the forum just to check it out  :lol


I am currently using the multi gauge made my grommet and schlumpf on the yamahafz1oa forum, and I especially love the fact that your design is completely plug & play :thumbup
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 21 August 2019, 07:58:24 pm
Yeah aiming for this to be completely plug & play. Latest update video:


https://youtu.be/nkVYGCFAAtw


This time bring a camera along with me for the ride - the first time I took it up to motorway speeds with the TFT Dash installed I discovered my speedo was way way off after comparing it to my sat nav (my previous testing has so far been in the garage with the bike on the centre stand). Took a different approach in the code for calculating speed and now it's spot on! Simpler is always better as they say! Now just need to sort my gear indicator. RPM and Speed is accurate but RPM is a bit jittery so would like to smooth this out - gear indicator keeps thinking I'm in 1st which isn't right so need to work out whats going on there. I've sent off for some proper waterproof enclosures which will contain the electronics + screen. So ideally when I ship these it will just be one thing to unplug and plug in. The prototype on my bike has bits everywhere at the moment lol.
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Dynspud on 22 August 2019, 07:36:17 am
As you say at the end of the video, "Looking good"!!!  :thumbup :woot
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: ogri48 on 24 August 2019, 09:48:28 pm
that is soooooooooo good mate :)
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: crankcase on 27 August 2019, 05:04:58 pm
Speaking of shipping... have you done the sums already? How much do you reckon one of these would cost, shipped to Hong Kong or Singapore?
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 27 August 2019, 08:52:20 pm
I'd imagine cost of shipping would be dependant on size and weight - whilst not overly weighty, the overall cost at the moment is still 'in flux'. Mainly now as the software / hardware design is largely complete and the TFT Dash works as expected, I'm now toying with different ways to package this up. Either I provide a DIY kit for you guys, which include the primary parts - so basically a box with all the electronics which you plug into your bike (a smallish box), and then you mount the screen to your existing mount with provided brackets, and then find a suitable place for the main box with electronics which I call the 'Bike interface'. Other option is I package this up in a complete unit with everything in one - much like your existing yamaha clocks. Only issue I'm finding with this is that whilst I have a perfectly designed enclosure which will house everything nicely, it's proving a challenge to get these things injection moulded for a reasonable price that won't affect the price of the TFT Dash. Recent injection moulding quotes I've been provided have way exceeded the cost of making one of these, so I'm looking alternate options. The other side of this is that I'm a slight perfectionist and I wouldn't want to ship a product to you guys that I wasn't completely happy with. Currently my prototype uses a 3D printed enclosure which houses the electronics, and an off the shelf 7 inch display which I've modified to be water resistant. Given the cost of injection moulding, I've taken a slightly different approach and am refining my electronics design to be physically smaller so I can ship the electronics in a much smaller unit than I currently have as a prototype. At least you can then decide how you want to mount it. More updates to follow!
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: crankcase on 28 August 2019, 05:38:14 pm
My 2c for whatever it's worth


The user experience would be quite different between the all-in-one-box vs the display and electronics being mounted separately.


I would imagine most would have a strong preference, for either the sleek dash OR the lower hassle of an all-in-one module.


Personally I'm in the latter camp, but perhaps it's worth doing a straw poll to see which way the wind is blowing, before you devote your time & energy to a particular solution...?
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 29 August 2019, 08:17:08 am
Completely agree - I've imagined this always being a single unit whereby you just unplug your old unit, plug in the new unit - mount on the bracket and you're ready to go. Good news is one of the fabrication houses I've been looking at finally came through with a sample of the complete enclosure design. Will post pictures soon once I've got all the electronics mounted inside, but it's looking great. So the all in one solution is looking much more promising. Once I've got all the electronics mounted I'll be refining the design of the enclosure just to remove any additional size that I don't need and get this as compact as possible, then I'll send off for a batch of a few of them and get ready to ship.



Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Stainy on 30 August 2019, 09:45:59 am
I'm definitely interested in this. However, the bezel on the LCD unit is huge and I have my reservations about putting it on the bike tbh
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 30 August 2019, 04:51:26 pm
Yeah the Bezel on that display on my prototype is massive. This was using an off the shelf display. The units I will ship will have a much smaller bezel (as close to edge to edge as possible), and the unit will be much more compact (and aesthetically pleasing ;) It's taken a while to find someone who can manufacture the enclosures for a decent enough price.
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: ogri48 on 30 August 2019, 05:32:56 pm
your obviously putting a lot of thought into this as well as expertise. nicely done feller
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: tex on 30 August 2019, 06:15:54 pm
Absolutely brilliant this , I'll be getting g one
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Mustang on 30 August 2019, 10:04:02 pm
Any idea on prices yet?
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: kebab19 on 30 August 2019, 10:08:32 pm
Very impressive, would like one of those myself.
You should post your prototype on the US FZ1OA website - they'll probly go into a frenzy over the prospect of adding modern techno-gadgetry on the old bus  :lol
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 01 September 2019, 09:06:33 pm
Yeah will put this up on the FZ1OA forums. Bit more of an update (with pictures) - Assembled the first all in one unit and got this mounted to the bike. Fits and mounts nicely, this unit is chunky and bezels are large - I've got a compact enclosure on the way - quite a bit thinner and much thinner bezel around the display. First 2 pics is essentially what I'll be shipping (albeit smaller). Literally just unbolt your old clocks (take a note of your odo before doing so), bolt in TFT Unit, plug in the connector and switch ignition on, and you'll be prompted to enter odometer reading which will be permanently saved. There will be an antireflective coating on top of the display which is sealed to the outer casing, so in a rain storm water will just run off - to prevent the unit suffering from condensation from the inside there will be covered breather holes on the back (much like original clocks). PCB's on the inside are also covered with a waterproof coating as a last line of defence against bad weather. As for price after totally up costs of making one unit, I'll initially be pricing these at £249.


After installing the only 2 things you'll have to mount are the control buttons (I've installed mine on the clutch side just underneath the switchgear which is a nice place and doesn't obstruct anything). Other other item to mount is the external temperature sensor. I'd just recommend mounting this not too close to the engine and away from direct wind blast so you'll get an accurate reading of ambient temperature :)


Will keep you posted!





 (http://www.dannydraper.co.uk/TFTDashUpdateCollage.jpg)
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Falcon 269 on 02 September 2019, 06:56:15 am
I've got to say how hugely impressed I am by the way you've engineered this through to a finished, plug 'n' play solution.  Outstanding job!
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Dudeofrude on 02 September 2019, 03:53:08 pm
That's a great price too! Especially when you compare to the likes of Koso etc shame it's no good for a gen 2 haha
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 03 September 2019, 09:29:38 am
Many thanks! As for the Gen 2 it probably wouldn't be too much work to have a version that works on the Gen 2. Going forward I'm thinking of a 'Universal' version which could potentially work for any bike, wouldn't be quite plug and play but if you know the pinout for your existing clocks and are happy connecting a few wires then might be an option. Also thinking of a 5 inch version for those who prefer a slightly smaller screen. Now just waiting for the smaller enclosures to arrive and I can start assembling the compact units which I will ship. Will keep you posted!
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Dynspud on 04 September 2019, 01:44:39 pm
Absolutely amazing job mate.
£249, count me in for one please  :D
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 07 September 2019, 07:37:01 pm
So had the first 'compact' enclosure arrive today! It's amazing how just one part can just hold everything up. This enclosure looks seriously compact and I'm really hoping I can squeeze all the parts in - on paper - doing the math everything looked like it would fit nicely. So now to assemble the first batch of units I will send out. There is one last issue (as I'm a perfectionist) I would like solve - currently when hitting the starter on the bike it causes the dash to do a reboot - sure it's only 7-8 seconds to come back up but I'd rather it didn't do this so I'm looking at ways for this to not happen. More of an annoyance than anything else but I can't really have this happening. At the moment I have 3 solutions in mind and will implement the one that works best and will include this in the first batch I send out. Stay tuned!
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 13 September 2019, 09:02:18 am
Another update: First unit I will dispatch is nearly assembled - awaiting a couple of more parts (mainly TFT display driver board). Have also been working on the website so you'll be able to place your orders. At the same time I've been running my prototype on my Fazer during this time to give it a good test in the wild. Now the weather is getting cooler in the mornings and the bike ends up being covered in condensation in the mornings it will be good to see how the TFT Dash holds up. The enclosure is water resistant, and the PCBs have been coated with waterproof coating. Haven't had any overnight downpours yet but I'm leaving my bike uncovered each night just in case lol.


Interestingly my Fazer is going in for its MOT today so will be interesting to see if it passes with the TFT Dash installed. Can't see any reason why not...
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Dynspud on 13 September 2019, 11:10:45 am
Good luck mate, with the screen and the MOT  :thumbup
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Geowulf on 13 September 2019, 12:30:21 pm
I'll have one, what you've done so far is brilliant, will definitely look better than the original clocks on my streetfighter gen1
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 13 September 2019, 01:52:52 pm
Wow those old clocks certainly do stick out! lol! Love the streetfighter'd gen1! Tempting to do the same to mine!


Good news is it passed the MOT! The TFT Dash was certainly a topic of conversation - I think it was even suggested the screen could be used to watch movies when parked up lol! Although MOT revealed my steering head bearings will need doing at some point - a job for another day I think!


On my prototype enclosure I'm using (the big one) I've fitted an anti-reflective coating which is sealed to the enclosure - good news is as it's a sunny day today the coating proved to work really well - could see the screen clearly in direct sunlight. The coating also acts as a water barrier in a rain storm. Now just need it to rain lol (it's the UK I know I won't be waiting long)...


Will most likely complete the next unit I'm putting together later on and will post up some pics.



Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: bernieeccles on 14 September 2019, 06:52:20 pm
"currently when hitting the starter on the bike it causes the dash to do a reboot"

I currently use a Samsung Galaxy A8 as a satnav powered from a USB port charger connected to the battery and strangely, the phone will do the same reboot when I press the starter button. If I connect the usb cable after the bike starts, then no problem.

Annoying !

Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 22 September 2019, 06:54:06 pm
UPDATE: This week has mainly been road testing week with the TFT Dash mounted to my bike. Had a couple of rainy days this week and the TFT Dash held up just fine - no sign of water issues. Another thing I want to nail down is the MPG and Range display. This is one I'd like to get really accurate and the only way to test this properly is to ride the bike from full tank to empty several times and see if the TFT Dash displays accurate info. It's a kind of tricky one as the Fazers fuel float potentiometer has a couple black spots where I can't get any useful reading so I'm only able to perform calculations on the useful range. Basically what happens is that the TFT Dash waits for 1 litre of fuel to be consumed, and then looks at the number of miles you've done in 1 litre - from there it can work out MPG and Range.
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 22 September 2019, 07:28:23 pm
Here's a shot of the TFT Dash with the bike parked up on a rainy day


(http://www.dannydraper.co.uk/TFTDashRain.jpg)
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 24 September 2019, 04:57:58 pm
As promised (although a bit later than planned) - here's a pic of 'compact' unit. The one I've been running on my bike is my prototype with the rather large enclosure and bezel. This the redesigned enclosure which has now been assembled - components fitted in nicely. In addition to road testing my prototype really to nail down the accuracy of the MPG and Range displays, I'm also providing a mechanism by which these can receive software updates via USB. This now means any new features and potential software / firmware fixes will be available on the website, and all you'll have to do is download the update file onto a USB flash drive, insert into the provided USB slot on the TFT Dash and switch on your ignition. The flash drive will be detected and the update will be recognised and will automatically update both the software & firmware on the device. All you then have to do is remove the flash drive and switch ignition off.


(http://www.dannydraper.co.uk/TFTDashSmallEnclosure.jpg)
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: tex on 24 September 2019, 07:22:27 pm
Brilliant piece of kit , well done
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: crankcase on 26 September 2019, 05:23:05 pm

The firmware update capability is a great piece of future proofing, good on you!


Now all we need is.... to be able to plug in a smart phone via USB, so you can get your maps & navigation on the big screen. No more worries about waterproofing the phone, or having it fly out of the holder at high speed  :lol



As promised (although a bit later than planned) - here's a pic of 'compact' unit. The one I've been running on my bike is my prototype with the rather large enclosure and bezel. This the redesigned enclosure which has now been assembled - components fitted in nicely. In addition to road testing my prototype really to nail down the accuracy of the MPG and Range displays, I'm also providing a mechanism by which these can receive software updates via USB. This now means any new features and potential software / firmware fixes will be available on the website, and all you'll have to do is download the update file onto a USB flash drive, insert into the provided USB slot on the TFT Dash and switch on your ignition. The flash drive will be detected and the update will be recognised and will automatically update both the software & firmware on the device. All you then have to do is remove the flash drive and switch ignition off.


([url]http://www.dannydraper.co.uk/TFTDashSmallEnclosure.jpg[/url])
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: OliZ on 28 September 2019, 03:05:00 pm
Very exciting project.
Gives me ideas  :)
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: crankcase on 01 October 2019, 02:52:02 pm
Not sure if you have mentioned this already... but I hope there's a way to change the displayed units from imperial to metric?
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 01 October 2019, 09:23:42 pm
Probably not mentioned in great detail, but yes there is an option to switch from Miles to KM and vice versa - I go touring around Europe quite often and couldn't exclude this option lol!
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 05 October 2019, 03:55:07 pm
UPDATE: MPG and Range display is finally nailed down. Now after riding for about 10-20 miles it will give an accurate reading. Figured the best way to do this was the simplest way and thats to record the number of litres and odo when you fill up - then all it does it look at number of litres consumed vs distance covered and can work out MPG and Range from that. After todays road test thought I had a problem with the Tacho display as it was going up to 7000 and coming back down to 0 and doing this repeatedly every 3 seconds - realised it was the ECU communicating an error code like it does on the old clocks - turns out my EXUP valve wasn't working doh! In a software update if this happens I'll get the Dash to realise whats happening and display a nice friendly message. E.g. 'Check EXUP Servo'. Only thing to do now is package up the first unit which is ready to go - Website will be online soon so will be able to take orders.
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: ogri48 on 07 October 2019, 07:33:36 pm
thats brilliant that it recognises the service codes though :)
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 07 October 2019, 09:27:55 pm
UPDATE: Finally the website is online and able to take orders! I know a couple of you have put your name down for one of these - to place your order go to:


https://www.tftdashproject.co.uk (https://www.tftdashproject.co.uk)


On that site there's all the info about the features & everything else the TFT Dash will do. At the moment I've got 1 fully assembled & tested unit ready to package and go. This is the compact unit I've previously mentioned - I've also got another enclosure on the way and parts to be building the next one. Obviously aim to get these out to you as quick as I can - it seems the enclosures take the longest time to arrive taking around 1-2 weeks, and everything else fairly quick.


Payment on the site is handled securely via Paypal and the site itself is secure & encrypted - once you've placed an order I'll know where I'm sending the next units I will assemble. Refunds will obviously be offered within 30 days of purchase if you're not happy with the units for any reason. Any issues, just email, and I can repair / replace units that may have gone faulty (albeit unlikely).


Really appreciate all of your positive comments & support about this project! It's been so much fun seeing this thing go from dream to reality! When you've installed it on your bike - would love to see some pics and hear how you're getting on with it.





Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: crankcase on 08 October 2019, 03:42:28 pm
Fantastic stuff! Not only a great idea, but real patience and perseverance to see it through. Bravo!

A few questions have popped up in my head over the last few days as I mulled over the idea of ordering one

- Is there (or do you plan to add) a drag mode? One that'll count down and then time you from 0 to 60 or 100?
- Can the the speedohealer be adjusted independently of the sprocket size? For instance based on GPS comparison, I might want to adjust the speedo down by 1.5% to show the true speed. Is this possible?
- Is there a way to bring the odometer up to the reading on my stock clocks, so it picks up from there? Or do I necessarily have to start from zero?

Thanks!
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 08 October 2019, 04:09:49 pm
Fantastic stuff! Not only a great idea, but real patience and perseverance to see it through. Bravo!

A few questions have popped up in my head over the last few days as I mulled over the idea of ordering one

- Is there (or do you plan to add) a drag mode? One that'll count down and then time you from 0 to 60 or 100?
- Can the the speedohealer be adjusted independently of the sprocket size? For instance based on GPS comparison, I might want to adjust the speedo down by 1.5% to show the true speed. Is this possible?
- Is there a way to bring the odometer up to the reading on my stock clocks, so it picks up from there? Or do I necessarily have to start from zero?

Thanks!


Many thanks! A drag mode is a great idea! Yes I'll add that in a future software update. If you ordered one now, just keep an eye on the website for the update which includes drag mode and then you simply update the software & firmware on the device which would include the new feature.


The speedohealer is completely independent of the sprocket size. The sprocket size setting is used purely for the gear indicator. So you can adjust your speedo down for a true speed reading. However currently setting the speedo healer at 0 will give a very true speed without any adjustment however each bike might be slightly different.


As for the Odometer, yes - when you plug in and turn on the TFT Dash for the first time it will ask you for your current Odometer reading (I've advised on the website that you take a note of your old Odo before unplugging). Once you've set your Odo it will be saved and maintained from that point onwards.


Hope that helps!

Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: OliZ on 09 October 2019, 06:53:45 am
Awesome.
Is there any chance to make it compatible for telling the Exup valve to stay open?
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 09 October 2019, 08:07:29 am
Awesome.
Is there any chance to make it compatible for telling the Exup valve to stay open?


I believe the EXUP servo is controlled by the ECU / The TFT Dash doesn't change anything there other than read the RPM signal coming from the ECU. Certainly possible to do this in but not without some wiring modification to the bike so that the EXUP servo is controlled by the TFT Dash instead of ECU. Although if EXUP servo was open all the time wouldn't you lose low / mid range power?
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: OliZ on 10 October 2019, 05:40:33 am
Awesome.
Is there any chance to make it compatible for telling the Exup valve to stay open?


I believe the EXUP servo is controlled by the ECU / The TFT Dash doesn't change anything there other than read the RPM signal coming from the ECU. Certainly possible to do this in but not without some wiring modification to the bike so that the EXUP servo is controlled by the TFT Dash instead of ECU. Although if EXUP servo was open all the time wouldn't you lose low / mid range power?


That is possible, although I would do it for a nicer exhaust note and revert back for when I needed either low end power or to do the MOT.
Even with a full flow slip-on my bike is so quiet that I can MOT it with that so it's very convenient to have the Exup.
I just don't want it to be that quiet all the time and I don't want to change muffler for MOT.
Opening the Exup on demand would be ideal 😀


On your point though, perhaps the 7000rpm power spike could be moved lower in the range by opening the Exup.
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 10 October 2019, 09:14:00 am
That's a real good point - I must have tried about 3 different cans on my Fazer for a louder sound - have even chopped 15cm off the Akrapovic can I had to get the louder deeper note. Great idea about adjusting the power range of the EXUP though - would be great to have a setting on the TFT Dash to control when the valve would open - I think ECU does it around 5000 RPM?
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Stainy on 10 October 2019, 09:30:15 am
I'd love this for my Gen 2 Fazer, but I don't think it's compatible atm? (I'll be checking back regularly!)
On that note, I looked through your website and there's no mention (I could see) that this is for Gen 1 Fazers only. I'm guessing this was on purpose for future compatibility expansion?, but you might get some orders off people with totally the wrong bike if you don't mention something on your landing page. Just a thought.
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 10 October 2019, 06:47:43 pm
I'd love this for my Gen 2 Fazer, but I don't think it's compatible atm? (I'll be checking back regularly!)
On that note, I looked through your website and there's no mention (I could see) that this is for Gen 1 Fazers only. I'm guessing this was on purpose for future compatibility expansion?, but you might get some orders off people with totally the wrong bike if you don't mention something on your landing page. Just a thought.


Yeah planning to do this for other bikes. If you click on the Order button - it's stated that the one you're ordering is for the Gen1. Will certainly be investigating the Gen 2!
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: OliZ on 10 October 2019, 10:23:01 pm
That's a real good point - I must have tried about 3 different cans on my Fazer for a louder sound - have even chopped 15cm off the Akrapovic can I had to get the louder deeper note. Great idea about adjusting the power range of the EXUP though - would be great to have a setting on the TFT Dash to control when the valve would open - I think ECU does it around 5000 RPM?


I have noticed a considerable power increase around the 6-7000rpm mark and I assumed that it was due to the Exup.
Mine sounds different from around the 7000 mark.
I see or hear no evidence of the Exup opening as early as 5000.
From a wheelie or  power turn perspective the jerk makes the bike harder to balance and it would be interesting to have more control over that.
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: robbo on 10 October 2019, 10:41:19 pm
The exup on Gen 1's is fully open by around 5k revs. The 7k fault code is purely that, an indication of what the fault is. Just like the tps fault code etc.
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: PieEater on 13 October 2019, 09:11:35 am
Nice website - I'd like to see some pictures of the unit fitted to a bike to show what it looks like when installed, and possibly an owners gallery once you have sold a few units.
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 14 October 2019, 10:09:46 am
Agree would be great to have an owners gallery.


Latest video with latest version installed can be viewed at:
https://youtu.be/iyYEwsPblro
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: OliZ on 15 October 2019, 09:54:38 pm
I am excited to hear of any updates re the exup.
If that can be done I'll be ordering.
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: PieEater on 15 October 2019, 11:01:58 pm
That's a real good point - I must have tried about 3 different cans on my Fazer for a louder sound - have even chopped 15cm off the Akrapovic can I had to get the louder deeper note. Great idea about adjusting the power range of the EXUP though - would be great to have a setting on the TFT Dash to control when the valve would open - I think ECU does it around 5000 RPM?


I have noticed a considerable power increase around the 6-7000rpm mark and I assumed that it was due to the Exup.
Mine sounds different from around the 7000 mark.
I see or hear no evidence of the Exup opening as early as 5000.
From a wheelie or  power turn perspective the jerk makes the bike harder to balance and it would be interesting to have more control over that.
Peak torque is ~7500rpm and from there you are climbing to peak power, I'd suggest that is what you are experiencing, it is nothing to do with the EXUP. The fact that you don't feel the EXUP working is exactly how it is designed, to smooth out power delivery from low revs to ~5500rpm by which time it is fully open, disabling or removing the EXUP would leave you with a flat spot at low revs and a much more noticeable kick around 5500rpm. I don't think you fully appreciate what the EXUP is doing and to sacrifice this for a different exhaust note is not something that I would choose to do especially if you want smooth power delivery which is exactly what it does. I don't think you would be happy with the result but there is only one way to find out, you could just remove the valve, put the cover back on with the cables loose and take it for a test ride.
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 16 October 2019, 03:41:04 pm
Have been giving a bit more thought on the possibilities regarding EXUP control. Agree that the EXUP does a great job of ensuring smooth power delivery at low / mid range. Once on tour I had the opposite problem with my EXUP - I stupidly put the pulley back on backwards after servicing the valve meaning my EXUP could not fully open and it was very noticeable as the bike struggled to get above 90mph. Corrected it at our next stop and what a difference it made. Although I would like a nice loud exhaust note (especially when filtering through london traffic - and most likely well below 5000 RPM). So I'm thinking an additional set of options on the TFT Dash named 'EXUP Control' hitting this menu would give you the following options:


- EXUP Controlled by ECU (i.e. don't do anything with the EXUP - just let the ECU control it normally)
- Fully open at Idle (for that louder exhaust idle, but once you're above a set speed, revert back to EXUP Controlled by ECU)
- Always open (keep the valve open, louder exhaust note, sacrifice some low / mid range power, and send fake signals to the ECU so you don't get error codes showing up on the tacho)
- Manual control (explained below)
- Test EXUP (this would simply open and close the EXUP several times without having to run the engine, good if you've just serviced the valve and want to make sure everything still works)


The manual control option would be interesting as it would allow you (whilst riding) to decide whether to open the valve, you might be doing slow speeds filtering through traffic therefore a bit of extra exhaust sound might be good. Once you're out of traffic and then want the ECU to have control of the EXUP - just hit the button on the TFT Dash remote and the EXUP would revert to ECU Control. This would then give you the flexibility of having some extra exhaust note (whilst sacrificing power), but then when road conditions change and you want your smooth power delivery back, hit the button and then you have that extra power back and your EXUP reverts back to control by ECU.


Additionally if you have your EXUP controlled by ECU - I would include a third diagnostic panel on the main screen which would show a nice graphic of the position of the EXUP. You could then visibly see it's position change as you ride.


On the practical side not much would have to change for the TFT Dash on the hardware side, it would need an extra communication wire which links to an 'EXUP control unit'. The 'EXUP control unit' is something additional I would provide, but I imagine this to be a small box which would sit near the EXUP servo and would plug into the EXUP servo. The plug coming from the ECU would then plug into the box. It would sit between the ECU and EXUP valve giving that extra flexibility.


Would need to do a bit of research and prototyping to see if the above will work practically, but theoretically it should work.







Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: OliZ on 16 October 2019, 05:38:52 pm
Perfect! That is exactly what I am looking for. Talk about over and beyond!

The proposed hardware solution is perfect, the intended use case is spot on, the intended user experience is sublime, and there may even be a graphical presentation.
The way this problem is approached and kicked over the horizon is sensational.
This innovative mindset is so refreshing.
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: old son on 17 October 2019, 06:36:14 am
Perfect! That is exactly what I am looking for. Talk about over and beyond!

The proposed hardware solution is perfect, the intended use case is spot on, the intended user experience is sublime, and there may even be a graphical presentation.
The way this problem is approached and kicked over the horizon is sensational.
This innovative mindset is so refreshing.

LOL, I think he's in love  :rollin :b
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Krezi on 18 October 2019, 11:50:08 am
Can you post to Ireland? There is no option to select on the form
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 18 October 2019, 06:49:54 pm
Can you post to Ireland? There is no option to select on the form


Yes can certainly ship to Ireland - will update the website form.
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 24 October 2019, 05:27:39 pm
UPDATE: Still need to get the website updated to take orders from outside UK Mainland - hopefully get this done this weekend. Have been asked numerous times now for different pictures of the unit I'm shipping on the bike - realised I don't really have enough pictures of it on the site. Problem is on my bike I've been running one of my early prototypes with the massive enclosure which I first had fabricated. So this week I've been rebuilding my TFT Dash to fit inside the new enclosures I'm shipping.


Have also been working on fabricating some covering panels which will cover up the circular cutouts that are left behind when you remove the old clocks. Will include these in the pictures also - those of you who've already ordered will be sent a set of these panels once I've finished with the design.



Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Krezi on 25 October 2019, 10:58:41 am
this is shaping up nicely! toying with idea of ordering one! is there any chance of smartphone integration for google maps? I mean just mirroring smartphone screen would be enough. Don't care about calls text etc


Paul
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: old son on 25 October 2019, 07:52:22 pm
this is shaping up nicely! toying with idea of ordering one! is there any chance of smartphone integration for google maps? I mean just mirroring smartphone screen would be enough. Don't care about calls text etc


Paul



I think Waze would be a better bet if integration is possible.
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 28 October 2019, 12:33:34 pm
Hi all,


I'm shortly going to be releasing a software update for the TFT Dash for those of you who now have one. Before I release the update, just thought I'd do a short instructional video on how to update the software & firmware on the device using a USB flash drive.


Video can be found here:
https://youtu.be/TEeIoh2bjzQ (https://youtu.be/TEeIoh2bjzQ)

Will let you know when the update is ready to download from the website.
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Andy W on 01 November 2019, 12:26:40 pm
This is an awesome project....great skill & expertise involved all the way through!
I am saving right now for mine!


Much better than the Koso unit I have now.  :)

Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: crankcase on 05 November 2019, 04:43:17 pm
this is shaping up nicely! toying with idea of ordering one! is there any chance of smartphone integration for google maps? I mean just mirroring smartphone screen would be enough. Don't care about calls text etc


Oh this would be SO awesome if it can happen...
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Geowulf on 07 November 2019, 10:35:11 am
Great S/W update Danny, look forward to installing over the weekend.

Trouble is that my Fazer is now SORNed for the winter as it's naked and not much good in the shitty weather; I have a TDM for that :)

A few people at work noticed the TFT dash on the bike before I SORNed it and it has received nothing but positive comments, most were stunned that this was even possible.

An idea for a project update, I know rear view cams are already available, but would it be possible to integrate an image from a wide angle rear view camera onto the TFT screen maybe on the top or bottom half with the other half still showing basic info (speed, revs, warning lights and fuel level) so I can get rid of my bar end mirrors or is this something that is not feasible?

Just a thought.

Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 11 November 2019, 08:28:45 am
Camera integration is certainly possible. Would need to do some research and see what's possible in this area but can't see why not! Next major update I'm looking to do will be integration with smartphone for Navigation.


Any issues with the Software Update let me know.
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Geowulf on 11 November 2019, 08:36:00 am
I've not tried it on the road yet as my bike is SORNed for the winter. I did do the S/W update and I like what you've done with the indictators and the temperature units, much better - thank you.
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Stormbringer on 20 November 2019, 04:53:14 pm
Would love one on my Fazer FZ8 ,nice work .
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: old son on 21 November 2019, 06:20:33 am
Just fitted one on my Gen 1. Very easy install, brilliant piece of kit. Easy to use and understand.

I had a multigauge before this which I liked but the numbers were getting too small for me to see at night. This new dash is like watching a 65" TV in the lounge!!!

Well done Danny, keep the updates coming...……………………………...
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 21 November 2019, 09:57:58 am
No worries so glad the install has gone well. Any issues let me know.


As a further update, one thing I've been playing around with for a while is tyre pressure sensors. You can buy tyre pressure gadgets from the likes of Amazon and eBay, so what I've been investigating more recently is the ability for the TFT Dash to show your tyre pressures using these widely available sensors.


If all goes well, those of you who now have the TFT Dash will be able to buy a 'Compatible TPMS' from Amazon and plug it into the USB port at the back of the Dash giving it the ability to display your tyre pressures (in addition to a software update I'll make available).


Bit of a way off yet, I've got a kit arriving today which I'll be tinkering around with to see if I can successfully read the data coming from the sensors.


Navigation features is also in progress although this is still a bit of a way off. Have been working on a Smartphone app which will talk to the TFT Dash via Bluetooth and communicate direction updates.

Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: old son on 22 November 2019, 06:28:57 am
Will the navigation App be a specific App or would something like Waze also work as well?
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 22 November 2019, 08:40:23 am
The Navigation app will be a specific app for the TFT Dash as it has to have knowledge of the Bluetooth connection to the TFT Dash. However it will operate much like Waze in that it will account for traffic and provide the best route much like Waze would do. If I'm not mistaken I think Google now own Waze, so I believe the underlying technology Waze uses is based on Google Maps which is what I am using in the Navigation app.
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Zark on 23 November 2019, 03:46:12 am
Navigation features is also in progress although this is still a bit of a way off. Have been working on a Smartphone app which will talk to the TFT Dash via Bluetooth and communicate direction updates.


Can't wait..  mapping and speed camera alerts and I'll be ordering!!
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: crankcase on 24 November 2019, 02:22:39 pm
The Navigation app will be a specific app for the TFT Dash as it has to have knowledge of the Bluetooth connection to the TFT Dash. However it will operate much like Waze in that it will account for traffic and provide the best route much like Waze would do. If I'm not mistaken I think Google now own Waze, so I believe the underlying technology Waze uses is based on Google Maps which is what I am using in the Navigation app.

Wouldn't it perhaps be simpler to write an app that mirrors the phone screen onto the dash? That way people can use whatever navigation app they feel like, and you don't need to worry about maintaining the app on top of everything else. Just a thought.
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 26 November 2019, 02:29:57 pm
Wouldn't it perhaps be simpler to write an app that mirrors the phone screen onto the dash? That way people can use whatever navigation app they feel like, and you don't need to worry about maintaining the app on top of everything else. Just a thought.


Would love to do it this way - unfortunately Apple quite heavily restrict what developers are allowed to do on an iPhone, so the iPhone version of the app will operate much like other Map apps do. Android phones are more open - The other issue is the Bluetooth connection, to mirror the phone's display would require a much higher speed connection (e.g. Wifi), The bluetooth connection can't handle as much data so the directional updates over bluetooth will be very specific updates, e.g. "In 3 Miles, Left Turn, Distance to Destination, Arrival Time, Traffic Delays, etc.." - it will be very similar to what KTM have done with their 'My Ride' app which essentially does the same thing with their latest TFT Dash.


The other way to do Navigation would have been to do everything on the TFT Dash, e.g. give it a GPS module and have all the maps loaded onto the device - essentially what TomTom and Garmin devices do - however going down this route will then involve getting hold of the raw map data, creating the satnav software, and also providing map updates as the data gets out of date - with that in mind the smart phone route will be the quickest and the actual navigational mapping will be done with already proven and tried technology. Hope that helps!
 
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Krezi on 27 November 2019, 07:59:04 pm
just fitted the dash today. Great piece of kit. Very bright as well. Thanks a mill Danny
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 28 November 2019, 11:29:13 am
No worries - looks fantastic! Any queries let me know.


Just a heads up - will be temporarily suspending ordering from the website - mainly gives me time to get current orders sorted within promised times, and then I'm away in December, so I'll be switching the site to 'Pre order' mode for anyone who wants to order, I'll then be back in January and able to continue with additional orders.


However the next software update should be available before Christmas which will introduce additional Idle Fan control & Tyre Pressure monitoring, and will be compatible with the following TPMS from Amazon (actually meant for Car stereos, but it works nicely with the TFT Dash).


https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07YBS1B6H/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07YBS1B6H/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)


With the Christmas software update, and the above TPMS, all you do is connect the receiver to the USB port at the back of the TFT Dash - attach the LR & LF sensors in the kit to your wheels, and you'll have tyre pressure readings (+ warnings if your tyres go outside your set pressure range).

Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: crankcase on 28 November 2019, 02:48:08 pm

You know best - you're the expert! And given what you've done with the dash so far, I have no doubt whatever you come up with for the mapping will be totally kickass  ;)

Would love to do it this way - unfortunately Apple quite heavily restrict what developers are allowed to do on an iPhone, so the iPhone version of the app will operate much like other Map apps do. Android phones are more open - The other issue is the Bluetooth connection, to mirror the phone's display would require a much higher speed connection (e.g. Wifi), The bluetooth connection can't handle as much data so the directional updates over bluetooth will be very specific updates, e.g. "In 3 Miles, Left Turn, Distance to Destination, Arrival Time, Traffic Delays, etc.." - it will be very similar to what KTM have done with their 'My Ride' app which essentially does the same thing with their latest TFT Dash.


The other way to do Navigation would have been to do everything on the TFT Dash, e.g. give it a GPS module and have all the maps loaded onto the device - essentially what TomTom and Garmin devices do - however going down this route will then involve getting hold of the raw map data, creating the satnav software, and also providing map updates as the data gets out of date - with that in mind the smart phone route will be the quickest and the actual navigational mapping will be done with already proven and tried technology. Hope that helps!
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: CatalinU on 25 December 2019, 10:35:18 am
It would be nice, as I seen that the display is very bright, to dim itself at night time :)
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Krezi on 26 December 2019, 05:49:09 pm
It would be nice, as I seen that the display is very bright, to dim itself at night time :)


that's what it does! There is brightness sensor there
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: bernieeccles on 27 December 2019, 04:48:21 pm
Would this work and be compatible with a 2002 FZS 600 ?
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Krezi on 09 January 2020, 11:39:00 am
No worries - looks fantastic! Any queries let me know.


Just a heads up - will be temporarily suspending ordering from the website - mainly gives me time to get current orders sorted within promised times, and then I'm away in December, so I'll be switching the site to 'Pre order' mode for anyone who wants to order, I'll then be back in January and able to continue with additional orders.


However the next software update should be available before Christmas which will introduce additional Idle Fan control & Tyre Pressure monitoring, and will be compatible with the following TPMS from Amazon (actually meant for Car stereos, but it works nicely with the TFT Dash).


https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07YBS1B6H/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07YBS1B6H/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)


With the Christmas software update, and the above TPMS, all you do is connect the receiver to the USB port at the back of the TFT Dash - attach the LR & LF sensors in the kit to your wheels, and you'll have tyre pressure readings (+ warnings if your tyres go outside your set pressure range).


Danny


Was this change implemented now?


Thanks
Paul
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 20 January 2020, 09:28:05 am
Hi all,


Apologies for the long silence! Am now back and working my way through Pre-orders that I've received. Once I've completed the Pre-order builds I'll be resuming ordering via the website.


I'm slightly delayed on the last Software Update which will include Tyre Pressures & Idle Fan Control. Will aim to get this out in Feb, once I've fulfilled pre-orders.


Any questions do let me know.

Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: crankcase on 29 January 2020, 03:05:58 pm
I'm thinking of ordering one. What would it cost including shipping to Singapore?


However, I would like to wait until the satnav features are implemented. Any idea when this might happen?


Thanks!!
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 05 February 2020, 06:53:29 pm
I'm thinking of ordering one. What would it cost including shipping to Singapore?


However, I would like to wait until the satnav features are implemented. Any idea when this might happen?


Thanks!!


No problem. International shipping to Singapore is £18. Shipping cost is added automatically when placing an order.


Sat Nav features will be implemented later this year, ideally before the summer. This will be in the form of a software update. Each TFT Dash unit supplied will come pre-equipped with a bluetooth module in preparation for the Sat Nav / GPS software update. It will enable you to pair your Smartphone to the TFT Dash and via an app you'll be able to download to your phone it will communicate direction updates to the TFT Dash via Bluetooth.

Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: old son on 06 February 2020, 06:33:14 am
Brilliant, what a cool upgrade this display is. Very easy to read and to date totally reliable. Thanks DJDLTD
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Andrew on 06 February 2020, 12:00:27 pm
Hi mate - Just about to ping you an email on your site.

Before I do just wondering what is the forecast is for availability?
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Trebus on 06 February 2020, 01:06:04 pm
I'm thinking of ordering one. What would it cost including shipping to Singapore?


However, I would like to wait until the satnav features are implemented. Any idea when this might happen?


Thanks!!


No problem. International shipping to Singapore is £18. Shipping cost is added automatically when placing an order.


Sat Nav features will be implemented later this year, ideally before the summer. This will be in the form of a software update. Each TFT Dash unit supplied will come pre-equipped with a bluetooth module in preparation for the Sat Nav / GPS software update. It will enable you to pair your Smartphone to the TFT Dash and via an app you'll be able to download to your phone it will communicate direction updates to the TFT Dash via Bluetooth.

Just remember they’ll likely be some import duty depending on the tariff code
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 10 February 2020, 08:34:19 pm
Hi mate - Just about to ping you an email on your site.

Before I do just wondering what is the forecast is for availability?


Hi Andrew,


Current waiting time before order goes through is around 7 days. If you send an email to orders@tftdashproject.co.uk, I'll add you to the list. I've almost fulfilled most of the previous Christmas pre-orders, and will soon be switching the site back to normal ordering.



Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Omigod on 11 February 2020, 08:46:13 pm
Hi There, Sent you a pre order email on 2/12/19 but not heard anything yet.
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: killerwhaleTRX on 11 February 2020, 10:22:58 pm
I really really need one for my -08, WHEN can i have it??  :b


//Mattias
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Stainy on 14 February 2020, 09:19:32 am
I really really need one for my -08, WHEN can i have it??  :b


//Mattias


Good luck with that - these are for Gen 1 only  :'(
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: killerwhaleTRX on 15 February 2020, 10:16:56 am




Good luck with that - these are for Gen 1 only  :'(



It was a question, surely he will start making em for other bikes now when most R&D are made!?
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 19 February 2020, 08:34:47 am
I'd love to move onto other bike models - one of the tricky things is not having access to the target bike. The main reason for choosing the FZS1000 for me was that it's one of the bikes I own, plus I think it's an amazing bike. During the R&D phase of this project I was able to spend time figuring out the existing clock wiring, and with things like Speed & RPM a long time was spent refining / refactoring my code & circuits to get accurate readings which usually meant many many test rides with a prototype setup once I'd made a change until I was happy with the values I was seeing. With another bike I would probably have to do this again.


However, I'm considering a 'universal' version. This would be much the same unit however the software would allow you to calibrate readings from the relevant sensors, and change them to match the sensors on your bike. However this wouldn't be a plug & play unit - there would be clearly labelled wires which you'd need to connect to the relevant connections on your bike, e.g. Speed signal, RPM signal, Left Turn, Right Turn, Engine Temp sensor, Fuel gauge / Fuel light, etc.. You'd then have to wire this into your bike.


Next major development areas on the list are Sat Nav & EXUP control.


In the next couple of days I'll be switching the site back to normal ordering as most pre-orders have now been dispatched.

Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: CatalinU on 19 February 2020, 12:47:42 pm
Just as a curiosity, how many units have you sold by now? :)
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 20 February 2020, 10:07:29 am
Just as a curiosity, how many units have you sold by now? :)


Currently approaching 20, I tend to build them in batches of 3 max.
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: CatalinU on 20 February 2020, 11:41:02 am
Pffff, that's awesome. It looks damn good, just I am not sure at the moment if I like the looks of futuristic or do I like the classier look. Probably implementing a way to comunicate with the phone, will make my mind. Keep up the good work  :D
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Omigod on 20 February 2020, 08:05:21 pm
Received my unit now, thanks.  Looking at fitting it this weekend, wish me luck. 
Looking forward to the Satnav update and what's the EXUP control?

Well, fitted it, Piece of piss, unbolt your clocks, plug in the dash and bolt it up, done !!! 
Took about an hour and most of that was wondering if I was doing it right as it all went so easy.
Thanks Danny.
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: JonnyFoxtrot on 21 February 2020, 08:31:55 am
If anyone's got any pics/vids of the unit on their own bikes now that more are rolling out, it would be great to see them.


Fair play DJDLTD, looks like a great unit and nice to see so many orders out there already!
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: OliZ on 21 February 2020, 11:08:28 pm
I only have unboxing videos so far but will be adding more content.


Dash: https://youtu.be/oAkGdX_01nA


TPMS: https://youtu.be/adbktcvyZgg
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: OliZ on 23 February 2020, 09:49:53 pm
TPMS sensors installed
TPMS Sensor
TPMS Sensor


TPMS control box installed
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TFT unit  installed, screen off
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TFT unit installed, screen on in daylight
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Night screen, in daylight
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Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: JonnyFoxtrot on 24 February 2020, 10:59:08 am
Cheers OliZ,


Looks great!
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 26 February 2020, 10:48:46 pm
Thanks OliZ,


Pictures are fantastic! Any issues let me know.
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 29 February 2020, 09:44:30 pm
UPDATE: It's been a while lol. The website is now back to normal ordering mode - anyone who wants to order can now do so from the website without pre-ordering via email. Many thanks for sending pictures of the TFT Dash on your bikes! It really is amazing to see this thing go from dream to reality in the space of a few months - it's so much appreciated!


The February 2020 Software update (which was originally meant to be the Christmas software update!) is finally available to download. (Existing TFT Dash owners might have been notified via email). In addition to TPMS compatibility, this introduces a critical fix to the odometer that manifested on a few boards (not every microprocessor had the issue) at Odometer values of 100000 or above. This has been fixed.


A tweak to the gear indicator has also been done, so it compensates a bit better when accelerating hard / decelerating. A bit later I'll be introducing a way to calibrate the gear indicator, by setting your own observed gear ratios per gear. I've noticed that simple factors like rear tyre pressure can throw off the gear indicator as it is quite sensitive.


https://www.tftdashproject.co.uk (https://www.tftdashproject.co.uk)


Any issues do let me know.


Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: glennc on 02 March 2020, 12:51:45 pm
Look fantastic just ordered one  :)
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: killerwhaleTRX on 02 March 2020, 04:26:00 pm
UPDATE: It's been a while lol. The website is now back to normal ordering mode - anyone who wants to order can now do so from the website without pre-ordering via email. Many thanks for sending pictures of the TFT Dash on your bikes! It really is amazing to see this thing go from dream to reality in the space of a few months - it's so much appreciated!


The February 2020 Software update (which was originally meant to be the Christmas software update!) is finally available to download. (Existing TFT Dash owners might have been notified via email). In addition to TPMS compatibility, this introduces a critical fix to the odometer that manifested on a few boards (not every microprocessor had the issue) at Odometer values of 100000 or above. This has been fixed.


A tweak to the gear indicator has also been done, so it compensates a bit better when accelerating hard / decelerating. A bit later I'll be introducing a way to calibrate the gear indicator, by setting your own observed gear ratios per gear. I've noticed that simple factors like rear tyre pressure can throw off the gear indicator as it is quite sensitive.


https://www.tftdashproject.co.uk (https://www.tftdashproject.co.uk)


Any issues do let me know.


Hey! Have you been able to get a good look at gen 2 wiring unt zu weiter?
Can´t imagine it would differ to much having had yamaha´s since 1999 :)


Regards
Mattias
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 30 March 2020, 06:28:25 pm
Strange times we are in these days! If you fancy killing some time, I've prepared a 6 part video series on YouTube which details how a TFT Dash is made all the way from order to dispatch.


Link is below:
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLN97alyilzJgYlL-BYmka47E1TI8M_ETn (http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLN97alyilzJgYlL-BYmka47E1TI8M_ETn)


Development Update: Gen 2 is certainly on the table - I've got a set of Gen 2 clocks on the way which will help me suss out how the existing clocks operate. FZS600 dash is coming along nicely. Turns out the FZS600 wiring is identical but signal frequencies are very different and a couple of the inputs are reversed for the 2 bikes so will be providing a firmware version which will work for the 600.


Sat Nav update is in progress - each of your units have a bluetooth module which I will activate in the future software update which will enable Navigation abilities.


Any queries, or suggestions feel free to let me know.


Stay safe!



Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Dudeofrude on 30 March 2020, 08:08:12 pm
I'd be quite interested in a Gen 2 model but only if it were a lot smaller. I dont know if it's even be possible but I'd imagine one about 6-7inches across ( about the size of a galaxy s10 plus) as I feel for a naked bike the current one is way to big.
It works alright in a faired bike though so I'm probably just being finicky Haha
It's an amazing bit of tech either way you look at it 👍
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Fazian on 30 March 2020, 08:29:01 pm
I'd be quite interested in a Gen 2 model


I'd second that  :thumbup
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: bigkev on 30 April 2020, 05:21:21 pm
When you say satnav would it be a full screen system or just a portion of the screen with basic info something like the KTM dash?
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Fazian on 03 May 2020, 02:47:39 pm
Any news on a 2nd gen model yet?
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: CatalinU on 04 May 2020, 05:49:20 pm
I'd be quite interested in a Gen 2 model but only if it were a lot smaller. I dont know if it's even be possible but I'd imagine one about 6-7inches across ( about the size of a galaxy s10 plus) as I feel for a naked bike the current one is way to big.
It works alright in a faired bike though so I'm probably just being finicky Haha
It's an amazing bit of tech either way you look at it 👍


Probably the small ones that are fitted with the new bikes would be too expensive and nobody will buy them
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: bald_pig on 07 May 2020, 02:52:31 pm
Hey fella, another one for a 600 version, and +1for rearview cam input!
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: CatalinU on 29 June 2020, 07:48:15 pm
So nothging new under the sun? Following this for some time, waiting to see if in the future will be a smaller ersion for this?
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 02 July 2020, 07:19:49 pm
Hi guys - apologies for what seems to be longer and longer times between updates! It seems most of my time is now divided between work, building new TFT units for dispatch and then squeezing whatever time I have left to focus on updates.


The good thing is the next software update is in full swing and will be incorporating the following enhancements:


Corrected Voltage reading
Unit selection on Tyre Pressure / Engine Temp / Ambient temp
MPG units in Ltrs/100KM selection
Calibration of the Gear Indicator for more or less sensitivity
Additional control of when the FAN comes on after engine start


A few of you who've bought the recommended TPMS have noted that you're not getting readings from the later kits being shipped from Amazon. This is due to the manufacturer changing how they identify their sensors, so I'll be incorporating this change in the next update.


As always recommendations for enhancement are always welcome. A smaller version is also certainly possible but a bit of a way off yet. One of the issues I'm working to improve is the reboot after engine start - this is due to the momentary interruption of power to the unit, a number of options are possible - some of you have suggested that you'd like to hard wire the TFT unit direct to the battery, have been working on a smaller version of a 'UPS' module which will prevent this restart - will keep you informed on this one but essentially will be an additional module which would sit between the TFT Unit and the Bikes connection.


As always, any suggestions or queries do let me know.







Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Fazian on 02 July 2020, 09:07:28 pm
Any more info on a gen 2 version?
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: tex on 02 July 2020, 09:07:55 pm
Brilliant piece of kit,  keep up the good work
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Myvision on 27 July 2020, 10:59:24 am
Are you still making these as the link doesn't work?
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Dudeofrude on 27 July 2020, 12:01:51 pm
Are you still making these as the link doesn't work?

Are you using the right link? Works fine for me

https://www.tftdashproject.co.uk (https://www.tftdashproject.co.uk)
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 11 August 2020, 06:11:19 pm
Hi all,


Apologies for the seemingly increasing waits before updates. But good news - the TFT Dash v2.0 Software Update is now available to download! Some much requested and needed features have been introduced, and some crucial fixes have been applied. For a complete walkthrough of the latest update, there is a video at:

https://youtu.be/oYrmqhtHgBE (https://youtu.be/oYrmqhtHgBE)

To get the software update, find out what's new and update your unit:
http://www.tftdashproject.co.uk/Home/Aug2020Update (http://www.tftdashproject.co.uk/Home/Aug2020Update)

All other info and queries: https://www.tftdashproject.co.uk (https://www.tftdashproject.co.uk)
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: old son on 11 August 2020, 09:41:31 pm
Looks like fantastic upgrades, well done. This dash just gets better and better!!!
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: NitramA on 12 August 2020, 05:56:15 pm
I keep looking at this;it certainly is a very interesting product.
The knowledge and effort you’ve put in shows you know what you’re doing.
It’s a truly impressive device.




If you could integrate Google Maps (or Android Auto) I’d not be able to resist hitting the buy button.
Also I’m less concerned about the overall size, more the shape. Is there any way you could just round off the edges to make it a little less box shaped?


This is really nitpicking. Fantastic job.
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: CatalinU on 14 August 2020, 06:18:37 pm
If it would run on android, I would buy 2, just to have one as a spare :D
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 14 August 2020, 06:50:27 pm
There is a plan in place to integrate navigation. Every TFT Dash ships with a built in bluetooth module which prepares it for a future software release which will include navigation abilities. The idea is it will pair with an app on your iPhone / Android smartphone and it will be your phone that does the navigation but it will send directional updates to the dash via bluetooth.


So the things you will see on the dash are mainly distance to next action (e.g. Left Turn / Right Turn / Roundabout, Exit, etc...), the action to take and other navigation stats like ETA, Distance to Arrival, etc...


The navigation update is a bit of a way off yet as it requires development of the smartphone app but the TFT Dash will most certainly support that.
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: bald_pig on 30 August 2020, 10:35:04 pm
If it would run on android, I would buy 2, just to have one as a spare :D


I'm currently contemplating making an Android version, but this pandemic has brought in more work than ever, so no time to work on it at the moment!


The interesting prospect of an android version for me is that you can use a phone for the dash to save some money...
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: kralik on 26 October 2020, 01:56:09 pm
DJDLTD - I went through your videos and it seems like I will be ordering your dash soon :-)
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: old son on 26 October 2020, 07:40:04 pm
DJDLTD - I went through your videos and it seems like I will be ordering your dash soon :-)
Go for it, they are very good and so easy to read
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: kralik on 27 October 2020, 07:56:51 am
DJDLTD - I went through your videos and it seems like I will be ordering your dash soon :-)
Go for it, they are very good and so easy to read
yes, I will. My dash is not in good condition either, the buttons does not work long time already.
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 21 January 2021, 08:08:31 pm
It seems longer and longer now every time I post updates, but good news is on the horizon - for TFT Dash owners the Navigation update is really close to being released. Thought I would post a quick video on the first Road test I did earlier today with the Navigation update working in conjunction with my iPhone via Bluetooth. Android users can expect an app release soon after this is out (it won't be long). But for the latest update video, the link is below:


https://youtu.be/Zh-Ds0p5Kjs


Any suggestions or queries, do let me know.


Stay safe
Danny
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: kralik on 22 January 2021, 11:50:58 am
It seems longer and longer now every time I post updates, but good news is on the horizon - for TFT Dash owners the Navigation update is really close to being released. Thought I would post a quick video on the first Road test I did earlier today with the Navigation update working in conjunction with my iPhone via Bluetooth. Android users can expect an app release soon after this is out (it won't be long). But for the latest update video, the link is below:


https://youtu.be/Zh-Ds0p5Kjs (https://youtu.be/Zh-Ds0p5Kjs)


Any suggestions or queries, do let me know.
Great! It is looking very good now. So I am looking forward for Android version :-)


Stay safe
Danny
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: b1k3rdude on 22 January 2021, 12:16:07 pm
This is extremely cool and very usefull fella, am currious as to what map/nav data you use. What is the screen like in direct sunlight, I assume its a generic TFT TN panel..?

Apologies if this has been asked before, but how logistically complicated/costly (pandemic aside) would it be to get a TFT made in the shape of the original clocks..? or if possible use multiple circular displays, inside the original instrument housing..?
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 22 January 2021, 05:48:06 pm
Many thanks! With regards to the Map Data, it depends on the smartphone you will use. At the moment the iPhone app uses the Apple Maps service to get the directions and routing info, and as you travel along it will pass each step to the TFT Dash over the Bluetooth LE connection. If you're on an Android phone this will use the Google Maps service.


It is a TFT TN panel that is used, in direct sunlight it works well if you use one of the high contrast themes - e.g. White on Black or vice versa.


To get the original design working in the shape of the original clocks would probably require a smaller screen, and a redesigned enclosure and a rework of where all the internal components would fit. Have got a 5 inch version on the Horizon and this seems to be what other Manufacturers are going with in terms of screen size. Have thought about multiple circular displays but the complicated bit is then getting the Raspberry Pi to connect to multiple displays etc.. I'm sure it's possible but would a bit of R&D required.


Hope that helps!
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: b1k3rdude on 22 January 2021, 10:22:22 pm
Have thought about multiple circular displays but the complicated bit is then getting the Raspberry Pi to connect to multiple displays etc.. I'm sure it's possible but would a bit of R&D required.
Yeah I did wonder after I asked, how you would connect to display so the Pi, one over hdmi and the second via breakout board from the GPIO? that assuming the Arduino isn't using already.
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: vivfazer on 23 January 2021, 05:33:47 pm
Hi,
I'm really impressed with the dash, would be very interested when you start selling them.
Cheers.
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: CatalinU on 24 January 2021, 07:47:24 am
Hi,
I'm really impressed with the dash, would be very interested when you start selling them.
Cheers.


He is already selling them. Check out hes website


https://www.tftdashproject.co.uk/ (https://www.tftdashproject.co.uk/)
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: crankcase on 02 February 2021, 03:47:17 pm

Many thanks! With regards to the Map Data, it depends on the smartphone you will use. At the moment the iPhone app uses the Apple Maps service to get the directions and routing info, and as you travel along it will pass each step to the TFT Dash over the Bluetooth LE connection. If you're on an Android phone this will use the Google Maps service.
Hi, I just got the notification for the dash software update with navigation, and boy am I excited!


Looking at the upgrade info on your site, it says iPhone users need to download a TFT Nav app from App Store. Is the Android version available, or is it on the way? I couldn't find anything by that name in the Google Play Store.


Thanks!
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: old son on 03 February 2021, 09:11:44 am
I've uploaded the update and the Nav App. As usual, great bit of kit. Looking forward to using the extra function. Whats next Danny?
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: FirstYamTwm on 10 February 2021, 11:29:25 am
What's the progress on the android version for the GPS function?  Cant find anything on play store.
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: crankcase on 16 June 2021, 03:00:38 pm
What's the progress on the android version for the GPS function?  Cant find anything on play store.
I emailed Danny asking about the Android app, he said it's in the works and he hopes to have it out by July <fingers crossed>
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: FirstYamTwm on 17 June 2021, 08:49:27 pm
Thank you Crankcase
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: FirstYamTwm on 15 July 2021, 11:47:58 pm
Any news on the Android version, thanks
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: FirstYamTwm on 23 September 2021, 04:52:13 pm
Any news yet on the Android version, Thanks?
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Woodzey80 on 23 September 2021, 06:42:35 pm
I've emailed Danny over a few issues with my dash & had no reply as of yet. I just hope he's well & still offering support to customers.
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: FirstYamTwm on 15 October 2021, 10:00:35 pm
Mid October, any news on the android version yet?
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Chris 50+ on 17 October 2021, 10:24:49 pm
That's very, very nice
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: CatalinU on 16 January 2022, 09:17:40 am
He was last active on 16th of november. I will be interested in the android version aswell
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 09 February 2022, 06:36:56 pm
*** LONG AWAITED UPDATE *** Apologies for the now silly lengths of time that go by when I now update you guys on here. I'm very much alive but just stupid busy at times! Support is always available for TFT Dash owners so any issues you have just let me know and I'll do my best to get back to you ASAP. So...whats new...I'll start with the obvious...


** ANDROID NAVIGATION APP UPDATE **
This IS very much in progress (really!) - Much happened last year which took my focus off of the TFT Dash Project for some time regarding new development so the Android development stalled for a bit (moved house twice! New job role, etc...) - getting settled now so I'm able to pick up the code I was working on and I'm aiming to get this out to you guys soon. Another reason for the delay on this is I'm not actually a native Android developer (iPhone yes, everything else...yes) - So there's been a bit of a learning curve on getting up to speed with Android development (first and foremost was to get myself an Android phone!) - I have one of these now and it's purely used for the development of the TFT Nav app for Android. As for the latest progress, the Navigation is working nicely - it uses the Google Maps service for Navigation & Directions (the iPhone version uses Apple Maps). The next bit of development is to get the Bluetooth communication working as it does with the iPhone app and then we're pretty much there! Next is navigating my way around the Google play store and getting it published there so guys can download it.


** TFT Dash Orders **


Still accepting and fulfilling orders to the best of my ability. There have been some challenges in recent months mainly due to the availability of parts which surprised me. 7 inch TFT Displays are becoming something of a rarity it seems these days, and increasingly difficult to attain - what I've been doing is looking at other gadgets which I know use the same display, ripping these apart and using them to build the TFT Dash units.


Another essential part which is now almost impossible to obtain is the Raspberry Pi Model 3B+! This really surprised me as I'd thought these would be continued to be made for years to come! The Raspberry Pi 4 is now out which is quite a bit more expensive than the 3 so I'll have to get one of these and see how well it works with the existing OS I modified for the 3B+


One important update is I'm sure you're aware there is a worldwide Microchip shortage at present - this has affected me in the sense that I'm no longer able to get hold of the ATMega32u4 chips easily (Last update from RS Components was they were due to get a shipment in 2023!!) What this has meant for orders is that I've reverted to supplying the Generation 3 TFT Dash units whenever an order is received (The one with the replaceable CR2032 battery). I've made a few fixes to the Gen 3 unit as a result as I know a few of you were getting battery life issues, but at present any future orders that come in will be shipped with a Gen 3 (Upgraded) Unit whereby I've upgraded the casing to make it easier to get into should you wish / need, and the Clock module has been modified so it no longer drains the battery like mad like it did in very early units.


** OTHER STUFF **


You might have seen on my YouTube channel I had a Ninja 1000SX 2020 model for a short time. I've now sold this and replaced it with a 2000 Honda VTR1000 as my second bike. (My Fazer 1000 always sits pride of place in my garage and I'm never selling this!). Interestingly what I found with the Ninja 1000SX is that it felt and rode very much like my Fazer 1000. Sure it had some nice new tech (TFT Dash!, Quick shifter, Cruise Control, etc...) but my overall enjoyment of riding the thing wasn't any better than the Fazer 1000 - my Fazer actually feels way better to ride - and not to be biased....but probably am....the TFT Dash on my Fazer is way better  ;)  Kawasaki have some catching up to do!




That's pretty much it - any queries or questions do let me know. There will be a software update coming out soon for the TFT Dash as I've discovered on later units (surprisingly) the Arduino chips that are shipped lately have some issues dealing with numbers greater than 32000 so I'll be releasing an update to address this as well as keeping you updated on the Android Navigation App progress. Other stuff I've got planned for future development are things like:


0-60 Timer! This was suggested by a customer which I think would be a cool feature
Service Reminders! (Going into BMW world now - but basically when you're due your next Oil change / Spark plug change / Air filter change / Valve clearance inspection, etc...)
Compatibility with more Tyre pressure readers (Currently only support a couple but there are others out there which need supporting).
If you have any ideas or suggestions do let me know - I will always take them onboard when developing future updates.


As always any queries feel free to let me know
Best Regards,
Danny.



Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Stainy on 15 February 2022, 09:47:44 am
It doesn't sound like you need to complicate matters with another project, but some of us Gen2 riders are still interested.


But the main reason for replying is to wonder if you've considered the Raspberry Pi Zero 2? Onboard memory might be an issue, but it's got the same cpu as the 3, so actual processing is quick and the unit is miniscule, even compared to the 3 (I know, as I have one)......just a thought
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 07 April 2022, 09:32:13 pm
It doesn't sound like you need to complicate matters with another project, but some of us Gen2 riders are still interested.


But the main reason for replying is to wonder if you've considered the Raspberry Pi Zero 2? Onboard memory might be an issue, but it's got the same cpu as the 3, so actual processing is quick and the unit is miniscule, even compared to the 3 (I know, as I have one)......just a thought


Many thanks for the suggestion of the Raspberry Pi Zero 2 - I've got one in my possession at the moment and am experimenting with it before I can offer it as a solution - Will be ensuring it can run the OS / TFT Dash software with the same performance I've seen from the 2/3 but it looks promising! The only draw back it has is sthe lack of USB Ports on this version, the TFT Dash setup needs 2 USB ports - 1 for connection to the Arduino for the bike interface and another for Software Updates and/or TPMS. Although nothing a small USB hub couldn't sort out - but I'll experiment...
Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: Duckmang on 23 April 2022, 09:20:46 pm
I have the multigauge installed but REALLY like this project!  Reading through the thread one thing that jumped out at me was the mention of changing the display for other models.  It's common for aftermarket radios to have different patch harnesses to allow them to be plug and play for lots of common vehicles.  The same idea seems like it would meld well with a project of this nature.  The basic display hardware stays the same, the inputs are corrected to the proper pins with a patch harness, and the any application specific signal conditioning gets handled in the software.  With a project this cool there would be significant demand across the motorcycling community.  It would be great if your efforts were rewarded with succe$$ meeting that demand.



Title: Re: TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1
Post by: DJDLTD on 21 September 2022, 08:25:59 am
Hey all,



THE WAIT IS FINALLY OVER! The Navigation app for Android has finally been completed and is available to download now! Thank you again for your patience whilst I worked to get the Android version of the Navigation app developed. This is a version 1, and is currently awaiting review by Google so it will soon be available on the Google Play store by the name 'TFT Navigation'.


However for those of you who can't wait, you can get it on your Android phone now by downloading the APK from:

https://www.tftdashproject.co.uk/softwareupdates/tftnavigation.apk.zip (https://www.tftdashproject.co.uk/softwareupdates/tftnavigation.apk.zip)

There are a few hoops to jump through to get it installed on your phone as it's not yet coming direct from Google Play, but if you run into any issues or are not familiar with downloading APK's directly to your device drop me a line and I'll give you some tips to get it installed.


Thank you so much again for your patience!


Any further info & for ordering information you can head to:


https://www.tftdashproject.co.uk (https://www.tftdashproject.co.uk)