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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner => Topic started by: Nemesis on 09 February 2018, 04:40:27 pm

Title: Oil change prior to spring
Post by: Nemesis on 09 February 2018, 04:40:27 pm
Hi Foccers, rather than asking the local bike shop and looking thick,  i want to know what grade / type oil you lot are mainly using. Handbook not much help really. Kinda wished I asked when I bought it but you know what like just want it get on the thing and ride away :rollin


Really value all replies,ta
Title: Re: Oil change prior to spring
Post by: Falcon 269 on 09 February 2018, 05:14:56 pm
Most are running a decent quality 10w40 semi-synth motorcycle oil.

Some - those who have investigated a bit to understand what's what with motor oil - are running auto diesel oil which is a good deal cheaper and every bit as good as bike-specific stuff.

It's winter, so my bet is this oil thread will run for 3 pages ... ;)
Title: Re: Oil change prior to spring
Post by: Dea-ville on 09 February 2018, 06:01:28 pm
C'mon now, we all love a "which tire & oil thread" i still have fond memories of last years "Oil change-will this cause issues?" thread. We got three pages out of that one, i'll say 2 pages. :'(
Title: Re: Oil change prior to spring
Post by: celticbiker on 09 February 2018, 06:53:30 pm
I've seen oil and tyre threads ruin for 100 or more pages on other forums.
But.......
Jasmo ma is the actual requirement but as a recommendation I'd say Castro power one semi or fully synthetic, or my current oil of choice is Smith and Allen and it's only £8.50
/ 4.5 litres.
www.smithandallan.com/products/transport-motorcycle/1868-smith-and-allan-motorcycle-oil-10w-40-semi-synthetic/ (http://www.smithandallan.com/products/transport-motorcycle/1868-smith-and-allan-motorcycle-oil-10w-40-semi-synthetic/)
Title: Re: Oil change prior to spring
Post by: Nemesis on 09 February 2018, 07:50:36 pm
10/40 semi it is then thanks guys, job done all on one page :lol , this is a great forum for new bikers to learn quickly from folk who have years and tons of experience, thks again.
Title: Re: Oil change prior to spring
Post by: Nemesis on 09 February 2018, 08:07:24 pm
I found that thread Dea, too heavy for me :lol . I,'ll gone with celticbikers recommendation ordered 10 ltrs
Title: Re: Oil change prior to spring
Post by: Dea-ville on 09 February 2018, 08:37:25 pm
I found that thread Dea, too heavy for me :lol . I,'ll gone with celticbikers recommendation ordered 10 ltrs


Aww, you've spoiled all the fun now bud. :thumbup
Title: Re: Oil change prior to spring
Post by: Rob R on 09 February 2018, 09:04:12 pm
I change my oil twice a year and use the cheapest that meets the specs. in the manual. I'm currently using Halfrauds semi synth.
Rob
Title: Re: Oil change prior to spring
Post by: PieEater on 09 February 2018, 10:19:33 pm
Recently switched to fully synthetic for no other reason than the bike is a keeper and anything I can do to prolong the life of the engine is worth paying for including a new filter with each oil change. Semi synthetic is more than fit for purpose though. I would consider your mileage and timescales between oil changes into your purchasing decision as you don't need top of the range oil if Like Rob R you are regular with the changes, if you CBA to keep on top of it then a higher quality oil or fully synthetic would be a better choice. Definitely bike specific oil unless you've done your research.
Title: Re: Oil change prior to spring
Post by: celticbiker on 09 February 2018, 11:10:11 pm
I change my oil twice a year and use the cheapest that meets the specs. in the manual. I'm currently using Halfrauds semi synth.
Rob
Lol.
I change mine every 12 weeks
Title: Re: Oil change prior to spring
Post by: ptolemyx on 22 February 2018, 08:04:43 am
If you go fully synth make sure to get oil specified for motorcycle engines which also lubes the gearbox. Some generic (car) synth oils will cause clutch slip. BTW I'm still a Silkolene man, semi synth in the road bikes and fully synth in the drag bike. Castrol Power 1  is also  (widely used by drag racers and road race teams) highly recommended and can often be got cheaper than equivalents from other major brands.
Title: Re: Oil change prior to spring
Post by: ptolemyx on 22 February 2018, 08:05:48 am
C'mon let's keep the posts coming  ;)
Title: Re: Oil change prior to spring
Post by: Dustydes on 22 February 2018, 09:26:26 am
Here we go
Title: Re: Oil change prior to spring
Post by: Dea-ville on 22 February 2018, 10:04:46 am
And can anyone tell me what tires to use with fully synth?  ;)
Title: Re: Oil change prior to spring
Post by: PieEater on 22 February 2018, 10:09:41 am
OK - As there are motorcycle mineral oils out there that meet the basic specification (SE, SF, SG) would anyone use these if there were a cost advantage over semi-synth? What to people think about the recommended oil change intervals of 4k / 6months, does this cover Yamaha if people use the cheapest SE mineral oil so if you use a higher spec semi-synth or fully synth you can ignore this?
 :lurk
Title: Re: Oil change prior to spring
Post by: Dea-ville on 22 February 2018, 10:52:50 am
OK - As there are motorcycle mineral oils out there that meet the basic specification (SE, SF, SG) would anyone use these if there were a cost advantage over semi-synth? What to people think about the recommended oil change intervals of 4k / 6months, does this cover Yamaha if people use the cheapest SE mineral oil so if you use a higher spec semi-synth or fully synth you can ignore this?
 :lurk


woohoo!! excellent, owd luv.  :thumbup
Title: Re: Oil change prior to spring
Post by: Nemesis on 22 February 2018, 07:11:24 pm
Got my 10 litres of smith and allan, bought a hi-flo 204 filter, and champion filter from halfreuds to see my year out :rollin,

round ones Dea :lol
Title: Re: Oil change prior to spring
Post by: robbo on 22 February 2018, 07:47:17 pm
Yep as Nemesis posted, round ones are crucial and preferably black :lol
Title: Re: Oil change prior to spring
Post by: mtread on 23 February 2018, 12:34:32 am
That's a point. Why are tyres always black? Surely with modern methods they could make them any colour, and red ones would obviously make the bike go faster....
Title: Re: Oil change prior to spring
Post by: stet on 23 February 2018, 03:33:12 am
Oil is so critical to the functioning of your engine, gearbox, and clutch, especially in a highly stressed, high-speed, precision modern motorcycle, so always get the best oil and change it as often as is practical. This means fully synthetic, and I would not like to prove this, but Mobile One. Just my two pence worth. :rolleyes   
Title: Re: Oil change prior to spring
Post by: celticbiker on 23 February 2018, 06:26:07 am
Actually pirelli make coloured tyres.
Title: Re: Oil change prior to spring
Post by: mtread on 24 February 2018, 12:04:18 am
But only in green white and red. Typical Italians!
Title: Re: Oil change prior to spring
Post by: Dudeofrude on 25 February 2018, 10:46:27 pm
Whether these are real or painted they still look foccing awful 😣😣
Title: Re: Oil change prior to spring
Post by: celticbiker on 26 February 2018, 06:30:03 am
They look like the ones I've seen so I'd say genuine.
In the states at least you can get special paint for the tyres, think it was only meant for the side walls but they paint the whole tyre.
Title: Re: Oil change prior to spring
Post by: stet on 26 February 2018, 07:51:12 am
Whether these are real or painted they still look foccing awful 😣😣


Seems like they are real  :eek

http://www.motorbikestoday.com/features/Articles/tomahawk_coloured_tyres.htm (http://www.motorbikestoday.com/features/Articles/tomahawk_coloured_tyres.htm)

http://ridemonkey.bikemag.com/threads/c-o-l-o-r-s-tomahawk-tires-moto.168553/ (http://ridemonkey.bikemag.com/threads/c-o-l-o-r-s-tomahawk-tires-moto.168553/)

The royal blue looks cool:
Title: Re: Oil change prior to spring
Post by: PieEater on 26 February 2018, 11:21:07 am
And who said these oil change threads degenerate and go off topic  :pokefun
Title: Re: Oil change prior to spring
Post by: Dea-ville on 26 February 2018, 11:40:18 am
And who said these oil change threads degenerate and go off topic  :pokefun


Be thankful for small mercy's bud. :woot
Title: Re: Oil change prior to spring
Post by: Andy W on 26 February 2018, 08:40:21 pm
(http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=23753.0;attach=31734;image)
Mmm, very tasteful..! :groan


[/size]When I change the oil in my Morris Minor I put the old oil in my Fazer - saves me a fortune! :eek
[/size]Oil filters -  in the lab pan with some washing up liquid, flush loo a few times & reuse! Job done! :rollin