I have no real thoughts on his death, he spent most of his life behind bars, punishment enough, I don't know, I just hope he came to loathe himself and thought about those poor kids every time he saw his refection in the mirror.As for the death penalty, I think history has proven how unreliable beyond reasonable doubt can be.
Mrs Bennett must be extremely upset today, my thoughts are with her.
I hope it was a slow painful death!! never understood why he wasn't given a death sentence!
Quote from: Robbie8666 on 15 May 2017, 10:58:39 pmI hope it was a slow painful death!! never understood why he wasn't given a death sentence! To many do-gooders were trying to abolish the death penalty, I would have sent the bastard the trapdoor.
I'm with others who think that the visit to the Moors a few years back was about Power.
At the end of the day Brady was a psychopath.QuoteI'm with others who think that the visit to the Moors a few years back was about Power.Of course it was. Psychopath’s need to be in control, they also need attention. Even his will is an manipulative attention seeking document.The public are his audience, and he has played to them.As for the death penalty, and “beyond reasonable doubt” of which every guilty sentence is beyond reasonable doubt. Though note that our law allows for doubt in that very statement of “beyond reasonable doubt”. So what of the Birmingham six and the Guildford four? Convictions on the back of corrupt policing and a dodgy legal system. They would all be dead if some of you here had your way. And indeed when you think back to the convictions of those innocent men, well there was no doubt the public was baying for blood - big time. An eye for an eye indeed.
So to summarise you ^^^
Invoking the death sentence in an eye-for-an-eye way is satiate a public baying for blood.Well who did all of the above for 40 years, the IRA/INLA and their bastard offspring still carrying out 'extrajudicial killings', aka punishment killings [often these days in republican heartlands]:
Perhaps Brady's mistake was not hiding behind some political BS.
Make the punishment a hell
QuoteSo to summarise you ^^^I think I was quite clear. In any case your summary of my post seems to be longer than my post itself. QuoteInvoking the death sentence in an eye-for-an-eye way is satiate a public baying for blood.Well who did all of the above for 40 years, the IRA/INLA and their bastard offspring still carrying out 'extrajudicial killings', aka punishment killings [often these days in republican heartlands]:You seem to be a little selective here. Or do you approve of the UVF , UDA and UFF. And how exactly does framing and hanging innocent men help?Quote Perhaps Brady's mistake was not hiding behind some political BS.Brady killed for pleasure. He is a true psychopath. He did whatever pleased him, whatever fascinated him. Psychopaths aren’t like ordinary people, they are wired up different. Personally, I feel that hanging such people lets them off the hook. I can’t think of a greater punishment than being locked up for life. Further I don’t believe in killing, and I certainly don’t believe in the state killing in cold blood.QuoteMake the punishment a hellPrison should be about rehabilitation, not simply punishment. However, be clear you cannot rehabilitate psychopath.
ote]Prison should be about rehabilitation, not simply punishment.
As for the death penalty, and “beyond reasonable doubt” of which every guilty sentence is beyond reasonable doubt. Though note that our law allows for doubt in that very statement of “beyond reasonable doubt”. So what of the Birmingham six and the Guildford four? Convictions on the back of corrupt policing and a dodgy legal system. They would all be dead if some of you here had your way. And indeed when you think back to the convictions of those innocent men, well there was no doubt the public was baying for blood - big time. An eye for an eye indeed.
Quote from: VNA on 16 May 2017, 07:30:10 pm At the end of the day Brady was a psychopath.QuoteI'm with others who think that the visit to the Moors a few years back was about Power.Of course it was. Psychopath’s need to be in control, they also need attention. Even his will is an manipulative attention seeking document.The public are his audience, and he has played to them.As for the death penalty, and “beyond reasonable doubt” of which every guilty sentence is beyond reasonable doubt. Though note that our law allows for doubt in that very statement of “beyond reasonable doubt”. So what of the Birmingham six and the Guildford four? Convictions on the back of corrupt policing and a dodgy legal system. They would all be dead if some of you here had your way. And indeed when you think back to the convictions of those innocent men, well there was no doubt the public was baying for blood - big time. An eye for an eye indeed.I personally see nothing wrong with VNA's post it seems well thought out and reasoned, just because someone thinks different to the way others do it does not make the opinion invalid.As commented, beyond reasonable doubt is allowed in British law, and who can say with absolute 100% certainty anything, there will always be doubt because we all see things through our own personal experiences or our own coloured spectacles. The fact that Brady took the police to the Moors and disclosed where some of the bodies were buried has moved it beyond reasonable doubt as to his guilt.I personally think that his life should have been forfeit, but had that happened a lot of the murdered children would never have received a decent burial and parents not given the opportunity to lay their child to rest.The people who actually had to make these sort of decisions as to who would live and who would die have to live with the outcome of their decisions, and people are fickle and change their mind at the drop of a hat.For Example:The Bible story of Jesus as he rode into Jerusalem on a donkey people were calling out Hosanna, a verbal expression of Glory, adoration and joy, they were also laying palm branches in His path, palm branches meant well-being and victory, these people saw Jesus as someone who would save them from the domination of the Roman Empire. These very same people that cried Hosanna and laid palm branches in His path were the very same ones who a few days later cried out crucify him.Whatever you do and whatever decisions you make, someone or some group will always say you made the wrong decision, it's human nature. People are and always will be fickle, their minds are changed by the slightest gust or wind and I number myself amongst them.
Quote from: tommyardin on 16 May 2017, 11:54:32 pmQuote from: VNA on 16 May 2017, 07:30:10 pm At the end of the day Brady was a psychopath.QuoteI'm with others who think that the visit to the Moors a few years back was about Power.Of course it was. Psychopath’s need to be in control, they also need attention. Even his will is an manipulative attention seeking document.The public are his audience, and he has played to them.As for the death penalty, and “beyond reasonable doubt” of which every guilty sentence is beyond reasonable doubt. Though note that our law allows for doubt in that very statement of “beyond reasonable doubt”. So what of the Birmingham six and the Guildford four? Convictions on the back of corrupt policing and a dodgy legal system. They would all be dead if some of you here had your way. And indeed when you think back to the convictions of those innocent men, well there was no doubt the public was baying for blood - big time. An eye for an eye indeed.I personally see nothing wrong with VNA's post it seems well thought out and reasoned, just because someone thinks different to the way others do it does not make the opinion invalid.As commented, beyond reasonable doubt is allowed in British law, and who can say with absolute 100% certainty anything, there will always be doubt because we all see things through our own personal experiences or our own coloured spectacles. The fact that Brady took the police to the Moors and disclosed where some of the bodies were buried has moved it beyond reasonable doubt as to his guilt.I personally think that his life should have been forfeit, but had that happened a lot of the murdered children would never have received a decent burial and parents not given the opportunity to lay their child to rest.The people who actually had to make these sort of decisions as to who would live and who would die have to live with the outcome of their decisions, and people are fickle and change their mind at the drop of a hat.For Example:The Bible story of Jesus as he rode into Jerusalem on a donkey people were calling out Hosanna, a verbal expression of Glory, adoration and joy, they were also laying palm branches in His path, palm branches meant well-being and victory, these people saw Jesus as someone who would save them from the domination of the Roman Empire. These very same people that cried Hosanna and laid palm branches in His path were the very same ones who a few days later cried out crucify him.Whatever you do and whatever decisions you make, someone or some group will always say you made the wrong decision, it's human nature. People are and always will be fickle, their minds are changed by the slightest gust or wind and I number myself amongst them. What the feck are you chatting about now???It was bad enough getting political, now you're bringing fairy stories into the equation?