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As already said bleed the brakes but if you don't know how old the brake fluid is change it all & re-bleed, when the old fluid needs changing you may get brake fade & the pedal travel increases, I have had this happen in a emergency stop situation best to get it sorted asap.



It is 18 years old and I have no records to speak of re servicing so a rear bleed and fluid replacement it is I think.


cheers







My bike is in it's 21st year (98) had from new with low mileage never changed the fluid until the pedal travel increased so possible same cause, worn out brake fluid, if you haven't done before look here. Clear tubing is better than black.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5nuh39VAu8
 



Thanks for the link.  I have done it before but the clamp on the rear foot pedal to create a lever, ever seen that and will use it in the future!

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: rear brake - how much lever play before it bites?
« on: 27 April 2019, 10:01:35 am »
As already said bleed the brakes but if you don't know how old the brake fluid is change it all & re-bleed, when the old fluid needs changing you may get brake fade & the pedal travel increases, I have had this happen in a emergency stop situation best to get it sorted asap.


It is 18 years old and I have no records to speak of re servicing so a rear bleed and fluid replacement it is I think.


cheers

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FZS600 Fazer / rear brake - how much lever play before it bites?
« on: 26 April 2019, 08:48:28 pm »
Hi


I'm still only a few hundred miles into my new (2002) fazer.  It's a really clean (looks brand new) machine and has  been very well looked after.  I'm totally new to the breed so this might be a naive question but...........


When in general traffic the rear brake is perfectly fine (ish) but I do feel that my foot has lots of travel before I feel a bite on the disc.  If travelling at say 60mph + and need some extra assistance when braking I feel the extra long travel together with the 'woolly' feel is a little uninspiring.


I've read a few threads........  but would like some opinions as to next steps.......


A  Bleed system
B  replace pads (not looked at wear yet)
C  replace with a blue spot rear
D  any combination of the above


let me know your thoughts


 :)

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HiI love the bike but unfortunately I've JUST (10 days ago!) bought my first fazer, a couple of the things I really miss is the gear indicator and the outside temperature reading (as I ride all year round).But....Can you point me in the direction of that Christian Vieth Electronic multi gauge please!  More than interested in that and how it fits and functions.Good luck with the sale too!Mike

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General / what is a cager in training?
« on: 28 February 2019, 08:00:23 pm »
Hi


Very new to the forum and Fazer ownership.  Most things I get but what is a 'cager in training'?




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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Best tank bag for the FZS 600
« on: 28 February 2019, 07:42:08 pm »
I got a magnetic tank bag from Aldi a few years back and it is still serving me well. I don't seem to be able to master the art of travelling light so it gets nearly full just on a day trip with flask, camera, first aid kit, and other junk. You can increase capacity with a separate zip off section underneath the main section, but I found that makes it too high and floppy so I don't use that and rely on panniers/top box for extra capacity on longer trips. Aldi usually have the motorbike stuff early in the fine weather riders season.
Not a very good picture of the tank bag but at least the bikes clean. :)



That bike is indeed very clean! ha ha!

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FZS600 Fazer / Best tank bag for the FZS 600
« on: 27 February 2019, 05:59:17 pm »
Hi
Just for short outings etc for all the crap you don't want in your pockets.
Any recommendations?

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For Sale & Wanted / Re: Wanted rear luggage rack for 2002 box eye 600
« on: 27 February 2019, 04:27:59 pm »



I've a renntec sports rack came my 2001 boxeye


It arrived today.  Fitted 5 mins later! Cheers

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Lowered font suspension
« on: 26 February 2019, 07:45:14 pm »
Originaly for feet on the floor, I experimented with the front after dropping the rear. I love the way it turns in now, I also changed the front oil and went for 10W. Mines an FZ6 S2 Fazer
Food for thought!   Thanks

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Lowered font suspension
« on: 26 February 2019, 07:39:06 pm »
I guess you mean you have 10mm of tube sticking up through the top yoke? At the need of the day, its your decision, but riders do things to bikes to try to improve them, as they see it. It may be that the rear suspension has been lowered, or a different shock fitted, and the front has been lowered in conjunction with that. Or perhaps a previous owner had short legs and lowered them to get more foot on the deck. Lowering the front has the effect of making the bike turn in a little quicker. Its an easy piece of work to set it back up to stock, or try lowering it a little more and see if you can feel the difference. Trial and error to suit you and your riding "style" really. Mines lowered 35mm at the rear and 30mm at the front
Is yours lowered for handling or feet on the floor?
 

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FZS600 Fazer / Lowered font suspension
« on: 26 February 2019, 07:02:35 pm »
I've just noticed my forks have been lowered by about 10mm through the yokes.  Is this a common thing and what does it rectify/add to the handling of the bike? 


It's a 2002 box eye version.  I think everything else is stock.......... But then you might know better.  I've only had it 1 week so I'm just getting to have a better look at things.


I'm not a racer, I ride fairly sensibly. Do I Leave it or do I put it back to stock settings?  Whichever decision, why?


My thoughts are that I'm sure Yamaha with all of its computers and tech wizards must have designed it with that geometry for a reason so why alter it?

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General / Re: personal breakdown cover for multi bike owners
« on: 25 February 2019, 07:22:56 pm »
Hi....... to anyone who looks at this in the future .....


Thanks to those who offered suggestions, much appreciated.



I've now spent hours reading horror stories of crap response times, expensive add ons, small print get out clauses.... etc


So.... I did the big 3, RAC, AA and Green flag.


I rang them and RAC came out best at roughly £10 per month for any vehicle I'm in (or on), car or bike or van up to a large transit.  That includes home start, home recovery to a garage if they can't fix it at home and recovery anywhere. They also gave a price freeze so I get the same deal next year as long as I signed for auto renewal which I don't mind as I diary everything anyway.   I think that was it.......


For peace of mind and confidence in someone definitely coming to rescue me on a wet, rainy miserable day on the north Yorkshire moors I said yes.


I might have paid £80 more than the lowest quote on Compare the market but honestly read the reviews!


Hope this helps

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General / Re: personal breakdown cover for multi bike owners
« on: 25 February 2019, 06:31:54 pm »
Nationwide flex account. £10 a month includes European cover on any vehicle (including bike and vans) I own.


I'm with Nationwide.......  going to have a look now!

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: what to update?
« on: 24 February 2019, 08:31:39 pm »
Wider mirrors. The standard ones always point at your elbows :lol I think the 1000 mirrors work. A top box is handy especially if you commute. You can upgrade the rear caliper. The standard one needs a lot of maintenance to stop it seizing. Regular cleaning and a set of new seals every few years. I think the 1000 rear caliper can be fitted with a little filing to the mounting bracket. You can probably get a 1000 caliper for the price of a set of genuine seals. A belly pan for looks. Rear hugger. A chain oiler. Sintered brake pads maybe but they'll eat your disc sooner. I've heard of people making quick action throttles. You could change your sprocket sizes for a bit more acceleration.
Hi


I keep reading about the rear caliper on the 600 seizing up.  I was going to have a closer look at mine as it wasn't too sharp when I was out on it, seemed a bit 'soft' so was going to look at changing the fluid and see if that helped. 


How much are we looking at for a replacement caliper?
What is the main difference between the two?
How much 'adjusting' does the hanger need to accommodate it?

Cheers
https://photobucket.com/gallery/user/emjaydee73/media/cGF0aDovMDJfenBzMDAxNTFjYTkuanBn/?ref=
I believe the main difference is less maintenance. It's a used part so prices will vary quite a bit. Do a search on here and ebay.


will do.  cheers

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General / Re: personal breakdown cover for multi bike owners
« on: 24 February 2019, 08:30:00 pm »
RAC do personal cover.  So whatever you are driving/riding you are covered.I've called them out a few times over the years for punctures, always had good service myself.

To be fair, I think my issue was that I’d told them it was in a bad way and needed to be recovered. But their first action is to try and repair. Unfortunately I knew best as I’d been snaking down the road with a smashed rear wheel hub, chain wrapped round the swinging arm and snaking down the road! Luckily the chain snapped eventually. I guess most of ‘Joe Public’ wouldn’t have the mechanical knowledge to assess the situation so they probably don’t believe anybody.
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol   very honest!

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: what to update?
« on: 24 February 2019, 06:55:11 pm »
Wider mirrors. The standard ones always point at your elbows :lol I think the 1000 mirrors work. A top box is handy especially if you commute. You can upgrade the rear caliper. The standard one needs a lot of maintenance to stop it seizing. Regular cleaning and a set of new seals every few years. I think the 1000 rear caliper can be fitted with a little filing to the mounting bracket. You can probably get a 1000 caliper for the price of a set of genuine seals. A belly pan for looks. Rear hugger. A chain oiler. Sintered brake pads maybe but they'll eat your disc sooner. I've heard of people making quick action throttles. You could change your sprocket sizes for a bit more acceleration.
Hi


I keep reading about the rear caliper on the 600 seizing up.  I was going to have a closer look at mine as it wasn't too sharp when I was out on it, seemed a bit 'soft' so was going to look at changing the fluid and see if that helped. 


How much are we looking at for a replacement caliper?
What is the main difference between the two?
How much 'adjusting' does the hanger need to accommodate it?

Cheers






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General / personal breakdown cover for multi bike owners
« on: 24 February 2019, 06:45:31 pm »
Hi


Since getting the Fazer I've now got two bikes to think about with regard to recovery should an accident or breakdown occur.  I can fix most things but for maybe £8 a month it's maybe worth the cost.  When I've been looking they websites always revert to car quotes which I obviously don't need.


Who do you use?


Who gives value for money?


Who to avoid?


Prices paid?


cheers

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: what to update?
« on: 24 February 2019, 09:34:26 am »
Mike, search on this forum for spotlights & you'll see what we all have. Chinese LED jobs. Including optional switch I fitted mine for about 17 quid



Hiya Mike - have a read here fella


http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,21527.0.html

Cheers I'll have a read.


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I'm just coming up to 2 years with my Fazer and have no plans to change it yet. Just wondering how long owners tend to keep them before they decide it's time to move on or is it your 'forever bike' particularly if it's the only bike you own.
Mine I've had 4 days and so far it's a keeper.
It's one of 4:
1980 Honda 250 superdream
1998 Vespa et4
2017 Suzuki dl250
2002 fazer

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For Sale & Wanted / Re: Wanted rear luggage rack for 2002 box eye 600
« on: 23 February 2019, 10:35:25 am »
Hi Mike. I've got the same on mine. They're a 'sports rack' so don't put anything too heavy on it.


Hi


Yeah I realised they weren't attached to anything at the rear so are kind of suspended by the two grab rail bolts either side of the seat.


Will it take a small topbox or would that be pushing it too?  I never carry much in it, it's mainly for small shop runs or putting my helmet and gloves in when in the shop.  Most of the time it's not attached.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: what to update?
« on: 23 February 2019, 10:31:57 am »
A fender extender on the front mud guards is a good idea. Some people go for 15W fork oil in the front suspension. You can also get progressive springs for the front suspension. The rear caliper can be swapped with the 1000 one I think, with a bit of filing to the mounting bracket.


Fender extender already fitted so That job is done.


Front suspension I'll wait and see what it feels like once the weather gets better and the tyres can get warmed up a bit.  It was a gentle jaunt out the other day in lovely sunshine but about 6 degrees of north east cold!




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FZS600 Fazer / Re: what to update?
« on: 23 February 2019, 10:29:49 am »
Find out when it had
new oil and filter change.
Fresh brake fluid front and rear.
When the spark plugs were last done.
Also when the chain and sprockets were replaced and if the previous owner could say what brake pads are fitted.


These are the basic maintenance items.

This would be on my check list and if it you cannot find out when it was last done then do it yourself.


Remember to get a Haynes manual as this will tell you when you need to do them and how.


Hi


Chain and sprockets all good
Serviced just prior to pick up
Brake fluid - I'll have a look at, probably been in a while but the brakes are pretty sharp so far, one to watch.....
Haynes manual in the garage!  It's the first thing I order when I buy a new bike - quite a collection now, like a piece of my own personal history.


Thanks for the advice.  Much appreciated.


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FZS600 Fazer / Re: what to update?
« on: 23 February 2019, 10:25:52 am »
Hi Mike,


You are a few weeks behind from myself having just purchased a 2001 Boxeye. 


As stated the headlight mod is a good start although I've fitted LED Spotlights to the edges of the radiator, these make a huge difference and the spots outperform the headlights.
I've fitted heated grips, although now it's turned to Summer I don't need them.


I've opted (somewhat controversially) for smoked indicator lenses as I found the orange ones made them look longer stemmed than they actually are.  A matching smoked LED tail light will be going on this weekend.


From a pratical sense the 12mm sprocket nut is a must.  I've checked for play in advance and so far haven't got any but I've already got a new 12mm nut and will fit that sometime in the next week.  Prevention being better than anything.


I've not noticed an issue with the suspension front or back but then I'm still getting used to her so maybe in time they might be mods I consider. 


Welcome to the group, since my arrival I've found people very welcoming and helpful. (Just don't mention smoked indicators) Lol.


Hi


Do you have any pics and/or links to the spotlight addition.  Sounds interesting.




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FZS600 Fazer / what to update?
« on: 22 February 2019, 06:59:39 pm »
Hi


I'm new to the Fazer.  I've just picked up a 2002 box eye 600.  it looks in mint condition but I'm sure there will be things to look out for/consider updating/replace with newer better versions?


So far I've done about 60 miles on a lovely dry sunny afternoon.  It's got Michelin Pilots fitted (not sure of which version but as the bike has obviously been well looked after I'm assuming not been on too long) with plenty of tread and they felt fine yesterday.


If anyone has any advice it would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks


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For Sale & Wanted / Re: Wanted rear luggage rack for 2002 box eye 600
« on: 22 February 2019, 06:16:46 pm »



I've a renntec sports rack came my 2001 boxeye


Hi


Consider it sold.  Much appreciated.


I'm new on here and couldn't work out how to, so if you can PM me and I'll get back to discuss price and delivery etc.


Cheers


Mike

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