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Title: Sat Navs on bikes
Post by: ajmes1 on 09 January 2014, 09:43:46 pm
This may have already been covered, but has anyone had much success with using non-motorbike satnavs (ie tomtom rider etc.) on their bikes. I've seen waterproof cases etc and just wondered what thoughts were.
Title: Re: Sat Navs on bikes
Post by: alan sherman on 09 January 2014, 09:56:36 pm
Google maps. Android phone, earpiece. Good for short journeys in town. No screen but is free.
Title: Re: Sat Navs on bikes
Post by: alexanderfitu on 09 January 2014, 09:58:23 pm
I use this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-GPS-SAT-NAV-Waterproof-Leather-Case-Mount-Holder-Motorcycle-Motorbike-Cycle-/330807637586?pt=UK_CE_GPS_Accessories_Software_ET&hash=item4d05abf652 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-GPS-SAT-NAV-Waterproof-Leather-Case-Mount-Holder-Motorcycle-Motorbike-Cycle-/330807637586?pt=UK_CE_GPS_Accessories_Software_ET&hash=item4d05abf652)

or something that looks very much like this. Works well, although larger sat navs can be a bit of a squeeze. No problems in the rain.

What you miss from the more expensive motorbike sat navs is bluetooth audio directions, which can be usefull on the motorbike. The motorbike specific sat navs are too expensive in my opinion.

I have used the android phone + headset option as well, but it rinsed my data plan, and dranied my battery very quickly. I also found in the latest google maps update, they stop saying road names and introduce a delay in the instructions which is annoying.
Title: Re: Sat Navs on bikes
Post by: mickvp on 09 January 2014, 09:58:33 pm
Google maps. Android phone, earpiece. Good for short journeys in town. No screen but is free.

change the earpiece for a bluetooth one (like the SENA SMH10 I have), add a waterproof case to the handlebars, and you have a screen as well.

Google's Navigation app has always worked well on my phone.

MY case is much the same as alexander has posted above.
Title: Re: Sat Navs on bikes
Post by: fq-craigus on 09 January 2014, 10:00:02 pm
Now thats a great idea, not thought about headphone and phone thats the answer for my journey at the weekend, I did think abput a tank bag with clear pocket but that means buying a tank bag lol
Title: Re: Sat Navs on bikes
Post by: ajmes1 on 09 January 2014, 10:09:19 pm
Good move with the phone idea.


I use this [url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-GPS-SAT-NAV-Waterproof-Leather-Case-Mount-Holder-Motorcycle-Motorbike-Cycle-/330807637586?pt=UK_CE_GPS_Accessories_Software_ET&hash=item4d05abf652[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-GPS-SAT-NAV-Waterproof-Leather-Case-Mount-Holder-Motorcycle-Motorbike-Cycle-/330807637586?pt=UK_CE_GPS_Accessories_Software_ET&hash=item4d05abf652[/url])
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 It was that listing that prompted the question!  I've used my tomtom in a tankbag but spent an unhealthy amount of time glancing down!


Listening to the directions wasn't much of  an issue that way. Might see if I could download a decent satnavs for my phone and use the Bluetooth idea!
Title: Re: Sat Navs on bikes
Post by: alexanderfitu on 09 January 2014, 10:09:24 pm
Google maps. Android phone, earpiece. Good for short journeys in town. No screen but is free.

change the earpiece for a bluetooth one (like the SENA SMH10 I have), add a waterproof case to the handlebars, and you have a screen as well.

Google's Navigation app has always worked well on my phone.

MY case is much the same as alexander has posted above.

The data usage is still a problem
Title: Re: Sat Navs on bikes
Post by: ajmes1 on 09 January 2014, 10:20:41 pm
Google maps. Android phone, earpiece. Good for short journeys in town. No screen but is free.

change the earpiece for a bluetooth one (like the SENA SMH10 I have), add a waterproof case to the handlebars, and you have a screen as well.

Google's Navigation app has always worked well on my phone.

MY case is much the same as alexander has posted above.

The data usage is still a problem


Just found co-pilot do a free version where you download the actual maps to your device, so less data to download, works without signal and just uses the gps chip
Title: Re: Sat Navs on bikes
Post by: alexanderfitu on 09 January 2014, 10:21:48 pm
Google maps. Android phone, earpiece. Good for short journeys in town. No screen but is free.

change the earpiece for a bluetooth one (like the SENA SMH10 I have), add a waterproof case to the handlebars, and you have a screen as well.

Google's Navigation app has always worked well on my phone.

MY case is much the same as alexander has posted above.

The data usage is still a problem


Just found co-pilot do a free version where you download the actual maps to your device, so less data to download, works without signal and just uses the gps chip

I had a play with that and the tom tom android version. Neither are as good as Google maps. Shame :)
Title: Re: Sat Navs on bikes
Post by: mickvp on 09 January 2014, 10:22:04 pm
if you play with the settings in google maps you can turn off any additional layers (satellite, terrain etc), and you can also pe-cache some of your common routes to cut right down on the data usage.

with only the basic map layers on, it should only use between 10-20Mb an Hour. Im on an unlimited data plan (3Gb) so its not a major concern for me.
Title: Re: Sat Navs on bikes
Post by: alexanderfitu on 09 January 2014, 10:23:06 pm
if you play with the settings in google maps you can turn off any additional layers (satellite, terrain etc), and you can also pe-cache some of your common routes to cut right down on the data usage.

with only the basic map layers on, it should only use between 10-20Mb an Hour. Im on an unlimited data plan (3Gb) so its not a major concern for me.
I did the same but I use my whole 5gb allocation a month either way.
Title: Re: Sat Navs on bikes
Post by: ajmes1 on 09 January 2014, 10:26:07 pm
I guess!


If it came to I'm sure you could pick up a cheapy off theifbay and either make do without voice directions or ( if you a bit of a whizz with tinkering) could fit a Bluetooth adapter to it.


I feel a project coming on
Title: Re: Sat Navs on bikes
Post by: rustyrider on 09 January 2014, 10:29:42 pm
I had to deliver a bike to Paris so stuck the windscreen sucker thing from my Garmin sat nav to the tank and put a polythene bag over the unit and held it on with an elastic band.  No audio from it but it gave me enough info from the maps to not get lost.  The poly bag worked well too even though it pissed it down the whole way there.
Title: Re: Sat Navs on bikes
Post by: Ian-man on 09 January 2014, 10:32:10 pm
I use copilot and find it works quite well, you can make a route with multiple waypoints and save it if you wish. No data or loss of signal issues. Sometimes you can download it free for a limited time and get a chance to try before you buy.  Also has camera locations and free app and map Updates.
Title: Re: Sat Navs on bikes
Post by: mickvp on 09 January 2014, 10:32:45 pm
if you play with the settings in google maps you can turn off any additional layers (satellite, terrain etc), and you can also pe-cache some of your common routes to cut right down on the data usage.

with only the basic map layers on, it should only use between 10-20Mb an Hour. Im on an unlimited data plan (3Gb) so its not a major concern for me.
I did the same but I use my whole 5gb allocation a month either way.

really?

god thats awful. ive never used my data allowance with anything, but admittedly I dont use the Nav that much!
Title: Re: Sat Navs on bikes
Post by: unfazed on 10 January 2014, 12:30:33 am
I just use a waterproof map :lol
Title: Re: Sat Navs on bikes
Post by: Punkstig on 10 January 2014, 07:29:46 am
I don't use the navigation software, just the maps.
If it's motorway you don't need it on, just need to remember what junction to get off, then have a look again.
If you have iPhone 'navfree' doesn't use data as you download the UK map to phone
Title: Re: Sat Navs on bikes
Post by: Nosobrut on 10 January 2014, 08:27:08 am
I use a tom tom 920 go . Had it for years got a case for it and fittings for  handle bar mounting . Use it every day as a despatch rider in London does the job for me
Title: Re: Sat Navs on bikes
Post by: unfazed on 10 January 2014, 08:33:03 am
I don't use the navigation software, just the maps.
If it's motorway you don't need it on, just need to remember what junction to get off, then have a look again.
If you have iPhone 'navfree' doesn't use data as you download the UK map to phone


:thumbup :thumbup :thumbup
Title: Re: Sat Navs on bikes
Post by: keithfzs1000 on 10 January 2014, 08:35:08 am
got a tom tom rider v2 and its exceptional if not expensive and costs you to update maps however i have just recommended for my son Navfree ( free app that downloads map to your mobile so doesnt use data a phone specific waterproof case with ram socket and a ram mount. Attach a 12v socket to battery use a 12v usb charger and you have just as good as the sat nav as i have but with free updates....... total cost about 25 to 50 quid depending on your phone
 :eek :eek :eek :eek
use bluetooth or headfones simples
Title: Re: Sat Navs on bikes
Post by: Davebo on 10 January 2014, 09:20:24 am
I use Waze on my phone, it's free and updates traffic in real time, BUT it does use data. (No idea how much as I don't pay for mine).

For the bike, I used to use a waterproof case off of eBay for my old TomTom V1. It was mounted to the bars via a ball & socket but it was a faff to get on and off. Then I was in Hein Gericke (when it was open) and they had one with velcro straps and a nice little sun shade. About £7. They might be selling them off again or via J&S.

DBo.
Title: Re: Sat Navs on bikes
Post by: Buzz on 10 January 2014, 09:50:40 am
Ancient jailbroken iPhone 3GS with Tom Tom, does the job fine.  More importantly the phone is mounted above the clocks on a homemade bracket very much like limax2's setup below, this keeps it in constant eye view unlike when it's on the tank/handlebars etc.

FZS600 SatNav bracket
FZS600 SatNav bracket
Title: Re: Sat Navs on bikes
Post by: locksmith on 10 January 2014, 10:22:17 am
I use a Garmin Zumo 550 with a RAM mount on the handlebar wired in to an Autocom system. Expensive to set up but is the dogs danglies.
Plays mp3's as well as navigation
Transfer from bike to bike so lasts a long while.

I've had it that long the Zumo is a little old fashioned now in that the Garmin features are greatly advanced now (like photo real junction display and lane guidance prompting etc, but I wont update till it breaks!
Title: Re: Sat Navs on bikes
Post by: Mattsplat on 10 January 2014, 10:43:42 am
Zumo 660 here, love it but very expensive.

Cheapo version, Nuvi 310 has an 3.5mm jack out and can be picked up for about £20 on eblag, wire it to the battery, waterproof bag from China and you have a proppa setup for under £50.
Title: Re: Sat Navs on bikes
Post by: fazer390 on 10 January 2014, 11:26:59 am
I use an old Garmin Zumo765 car satnav. It has a headphone socket to plug my Sanheisser headphones in and a SD slot to add mp3 music files. It's attached via a handlebar garmin ball mount and powered by a cigar socket plummed direct (fused) to the battery. I don't tend to go out in the rain these days; however if it does rain, I put it in a tankbag with a map window.
It also has bluetooth for when I'm in my cage, so it doubles as a hands free kit... Works a treat...  :)
 
 
Title: Re: Sat Navs on bikes
Post by: Phil on 10 January 2014, 11:33:43 am
I use this [url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-GPS-SAT-NAV-Waterproof-Leather-Case-Mount-Holder-Motorcycle-Motorbike-Cycle-/330807637586?pt=UK_CE_GPS_Accessories_Software_ET&hash=item4d05abf652[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-GPS-SAT-NAV-Waterproof-Leather-Case-Mount-Holder-Motorcycle-Motorbike-Cycle-/330807637586?pt=UK_CE_GPS_Accessories_Software_ET&hash=item4d05abf652[/url])

 


I've got a similar holder to that from Hein Gericke.

I attached it to one like this
http://www.amazon.co.uk/RAM-MOUNT--RAM-B-347-Base-Pattern-Plate/dp/B004O8LF26/ref=sr_1_8/280-4913084-6253711?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1389352745&sr=1-8&keywords=ram-mount (http://www.amazon.co.uk/RAM-MOUNT--RAM-B-347-Base-Pattern-Plate/dp/B004O8LF26/ref=sr_1_8/280-4913084-6253711?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1389352745&sr=1-8&keywords=ram-mount)

which attaches to one like this
http://www.amazon.co.uk/RAM-MOUNT--RAM-B-201-A-Double-Socket-Short/dp/B0053NLIBO/ref=sr_1_10/280-4913084-6253711?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1389352745&sr=1-10&keywords=ram-mount (http://www.amazon.co.uk/RAM-MOUNT--RAM-B-201-A-Double-Socket-Short/dp/B0053NLIBO/ref=sr_1_10/280-4913084-6253711?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1389352745&sr=1-10&keywords=ram-mount)

which attaches to one like this
http://www.amazon.co.uk/RAM-MOUNT--RAM-B-231Z-U-Bolt-Base-1-25/dp/B0012TWRAO/ref=sr_1_1/280-4913084-6253711?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1389352745&sr=1-1&keywords=ram-mount (http://www.amazon.co.uk/RAM-MOUNT--RAM-B-231Z-U-Bolt-Base-1-25/dp/B0012TWRAO/ref=sr_1_1/280-4913084-6253711?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1389352745&sr=1-1&keywords=ram-mount)

On my XJR1300 in the rain the holder leaked a bit and the window streamed up a bit. Its better on the Fazer8 because of the fairing. When the sun is shining from behind its a bit difficult to se the screen. The 4.3" screen Garmin Nuvi lasted 4 hours on the battery. When I went to Romania I bought a new one with more EE maps on it. It has a 5" widescreen and the battery only lasts 1 1/2 hours. It also has a press button on/off switch which has managed to turn itself on in my tank bag when not in use. The older one has a sliding switch which is better. I've since bought a connector to wire it up to the battery but haven't fitted it yet.


I only use it when I take a wrong turning and get lost (so hardly ever), know there is a town to get around and to find a pre-booked hotel. Its very useful to find petrol stations/hotels etc in areas I don't know.

Mainly I use a laminated map in the tank bag map holder. 

 
Title: Re: Sat Navs on bikes
Post by: Exupnut on 10 January 2014, 11:45:07 am

I use a tom tom 920 go . Had it for years got a case for it and fittings for  handle bar mounting . Use it every day as a despatch rider in London does the job for me

Aha!! Another despatch rider on here. A human satnav :-)
Title: Re: Sat Navs on bikes
Post by: Arfa on 10 January 2014, 11:59:31 am
Perfect solution right here:-


(http://www.sonsdecanela.com/partsforat/images/roadbook10.JPG)


http://www.sonsdecanela.com/partsforat/roadbook.html (http://www.sonsdecanela.com/partsforat/roadbook.html)


Doesn't cane off your data plan, no bother with bluetooth/headphones etc, no hassle touching screen with big gloves on, won't run out of battery power and not likely to be pinched when you park up at services. Sorted!
Title: Re: Sat Navs on bikes
Post by: Frosties on 10 January 2014, 01:34:19 pm
I use this [url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-GPS-SAT-NAV-Waterproof-Leather-Case-Mount-Holder-Motorcycle-Motorbike-Cycle-/330807637586?pt=UK_CE_GPS_Accessories_Software_ET&hash=item4d05abf652[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-GPS-SAT-NAV-Waterproof-Leather-Case-Mount-Holder-Motorcycle-Motorbike-Cycle-/330807637586?pt=UK_CE_GPS_Accessories_Software_ET&hash=item4d05abf652[/url])

or something that looks very much like this. Works well, although larger sat navs can be a bit of a squeeze. No problems in the rain.

The motorbike specific sat navs are too expensive in my opinion.



Same here with a TomTom XL - works a treat!
Title: Re: Sat Navs on bikes
Post by: madmondeoman on 10 January 2014, 02:40:30 pm
Use my garnim nuvi 1490T out of the car. Bought a bar mount of ebay for a couple of quid comes with waterproof case.

Buoght a garmin cable and it's hard wired into the battery now.
Title: Re: Sat Navs on bikes
Post by: Skippernick on 10 January 2014, 05:02:14 pm
Perfect solution right here:-


([url]http://www.sonsdecanela.com/partsforat/images/roadbook10.JPG[/url])


[url]http://www.sonsdecanela.com/partsforat/roadbook.html[/url] ([url]http://www.sonsdecanela.com/partsforat/roadbook.html[/url])


Doesn't cane off your data plan, no bother with bluetooth/headphones etc, no hassle touching screen with big gloves on, won't run out of battery power and not likely to be pinched when you park up at services. Sorted!



Ah a real man like me, don't we feel a little bit smug! You forgot to add that it still works even if the yanks turned the GPS system off.
Title: Re: Sat Navs on bikes
Post by: Gingernutz on 10 January 2014, 07:04:24 pm
Another one with a cheap £30 sat navigation on a home made holder braced over the clocks. Mine is wired to the bikes power and sound is to my lid via the autocom. Also plays mp3s for bike dancing purposes. I find the foxeye screen is dry enough except in a hurricane and then I stick a freezer bag over the top. http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee84/pj_otoole/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_00000018_zpsd3c10087.jpg (http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee84/pj_otoole/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_00000018_zpsd3c10087.jpg) haven't got a smaller photo (bikes on side stand in garage the satnav is nearly straight) :)
Title: Re: Sat Navs on bikes
Post by: rayburn600 on 10 January 2014, 07:44:10 pm
Garmin 660 here too.
Brilliant bit of kit.
Updated 2013 maps with sd card under £40.


Blue tooth into helmet.
Done France with it no probs.
R
Title: Re: Sat Navs on bikes
Post by: limax2 on 10 January 2014, 08:03:20 pm
I use the normal car one (TomTom) mounted above the clocks and in a cheap case which keeps out the rain. Phil mentioned dazzle from the sun so here is my solution to it. An elastic band round the case and brackets keeps it all in place and it works a treat  :) .
 
 
This is the sun shield showing the two "L" brackets and backing plate made from thin aluminium sheet and pop riveted to the plastic shield.
 
Raw material for plastic shield was this
Other brands of washing products are available and possibly in a size to suit your case  ;) .
 
For anyone interested Fizzy Pies has shown detials of his SatNav mounting above the clocks in his "my bike" post in the 600 section, including drawings of the brackets etc. for a boxeye.
 
Title: Re: Sat Navs on bikes
Post by: unfazed on 10 January 2014, 08:32:48 pm
Perfect solution right here:-


([url]http://www.sonsdecanela.com/partsforat/images/roadbook10.JPG[/url])


[url]http://www.sonsdecanela.com/partsforat/roadbook.html[/url] ([url]http://www.sonsdecanela.com/partsforat/roadbook.html[/url])


Doesn't cane off your data plan, no bother with bluetooth/headphones etc, no hassle touching screen with big gloves on, won't run out of battery power and not likely to be pinched when you park up at services. Sorted!



Ah a real man like me, don't we feel a little bit smug! You forgot to add that it still works even if the yanks turned the GPS system off.


 :thumbup :thumbup :thumbup
Title: Re: Sat Navs on bikes
Post by: midden on 10 January 2014, 08:54:52 pm
Forget the leather cases imo 
I use a bike console with my android phone it's hard plastic and still gives touch screen ability.




http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Samsung-Galaxy-S2-motorcycle-motorbike-console-handlebar-mount-case-waterproof-/330683854540?pt=UK_Holders_Mounts&hash=item4cfe4b2ecc (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Samsung-Galaxy-S2-motorcycle-motorbike-console-handlebar-mount-case-waterproof-/330683854540?pt=UK_Holders_Mounts&hash=item4cfe4b2ecc)