Foccing Punctures

[VNA - BMW Wank]

Got a bit wet on the way to work this morning.
Fairly uneventful day at work.
16:30 and I'm finished, nice warm sunny afternoon, walk out to the car park - surely not?  Look for the culprit - what? - you gotta be joking!  A bloody stone chip embedded side on into my tyre.
Call RAC, got back bike home. 
Of course I live miles away from any bike shop - pain in the butt time.

What's the going rate for PR3's (off to search the web)

If anybody knows anybody fitting tyres in North Ayrshire please post details.

[VNA - BMW Wank]

Oh bought bike brand new in 2004.
Just coming up on 29,000 miles.
This is my fourth puncture, 3 times I've had the RAC out.

So I'm averaging 7000 miles a puncture. 

It's put a slit in the tyre rather than a hole, so maybe yet another part worn tyre in the bin.

Need a new front too, it's down on the markers.

It does worry me how easily these tyres puncture.  I think managed more miles on a push bike between punctures! 

And my current car, 70,000 miles over 8 years, no punctures.

Grrrrrrr.

[VNA - BMW Wank]

Nae sympathy for VNA eh?  Can't you feel my pain?

Anyway sorted with new tyres on Friday.  Back up the road, adjusted the chain so it had some slack again!  A quick 20 mile scrub in and off out for the day on Saturday with a lady friend on the back.

250 miles in and all is well.

They look really weird, but feel just like PR2's. 

No more punctures please!

[Hedgetrimmer]

Phew! As I started to read that, I thought you were gonna say you went out and got a puncture in the new tyres! I've used mostly PR2s on my last 2 thous, and only had 1 puncture (so far, touch wood, hope I haven't jinxed myself now ), so I don't think it's due to the tyres being particularly vulnerable - just bad luck I suspect. Wishing you much good luck with the new pair!

[ChristoT]

I have PR3s on my 600. And love them. 

Touch wood for no punctures!

[VNA - BMW Wank]

Phew! As I started to read that, I thought you were gonna say you went out and got a puncture in the new tyres!

Thankfully not, that would have almost certainly resulted in a Basil Faulty moment.

With luck I might get to wear this set doon nice and smooth fae once.

The old PR2 was OK for a repair, so that's in the garage as a spare.

I had a Fazer 600 before that, I had a couple of punctures on that.  I had a puncture too on my CBR600F.  Not sure about further back than that!

I just wonder now, if I'm unlucky, or are bikes particularly puncture prone. 

The other thing is I've had one total blow out at speed, plus two other punctures that would very possibly or more than likely have resulted in a blow out within a few miles if I had not already reached my destination.  Cost and hassle aside, that's what really bothers me.

[AyJay]

I have sympathy for you VNA. I find they come in fits and spurts. Nothing for years then 3 in a year.


The worst thing is the AA and the interminable waits for pickup...

[VNA - BMW Wank]

On all but one occasion I got the RAC out.
The first time, I had a bit of a wait for the local contractor to come out and load up the bike and drive me the 120 miles home.

But other than that, they usually appear within 20-60 minutes.  I think that's pretty good.

It's just the daft questions (+ statements) they ask you on the phone;

Do you have a spare wheel?

There may be a charge if the part is replaced at the road side.

How many passengers do you have?  (well OK maybe some folks have side cars)

The call took ages.

[VNA - BMW Wank]

Oh that reminds me, somebody posted a tyre repair kit a while back.

Which appeared to form a permanent repair at the roadside.

For some strange reason I'm suddenly interested in having another look.

[dickturpin]

Never fancied the gloopy stuff?

[Hedgetrimmer]

Used to sell an awful lot of this one at my last place of work - got good reviews, a better product than Slime & many similar, customers always swore by it, but I never tried it for myself.
http://www.puncturesafe.co.uk/pages/bikers.htm
 
And I think this may be the kit you mentioned VNA:
http://www.craftyplugger.com/
 

[ChristoT]

Oh that reminds me, somebody posted a tyre repair kit a while back.

Which appeared to form a permanent repair at the roadside.

For some strange reason I'm suddenly interested in having another look.

Crafty plugger. PM Punkstig, he swears by them!!

[mickvp]

Oh that reminds me, somebody posted a tyre repair kit a while back.

Which appeared to form a permanent repair at the roadside.

For some strange reason I'm suddenly interested in having another look.

I assume that's those plug things your talking about? I saw a post recently about these but I can't remember what they were called. Sorry

Edit ^^^ crafty plugger / that's the fellows!

[AyJay]

I will never ever use slime again after the wretched AA pumped some in and sent me up the M1. "It'll be fine" they said, " just keep it under 50". Ha! 1.5 miles later, it all came out again and right in front of an artic. Nearly killed me. And then I had to make yet another call.


And the last two times I've had the AA out, from start to finish it took 5 1/2 hours and 6 hours to get me 50 miles. I despise them. 90% of their business is now financial services and they haven't got a clue about breakdown anymore, and given their harping on about lower speed limits and road safety, they are so far from their original reason to exist that they might as well be in sewer construction or guinea pig farming.


RAC for me....

[Hedgetrimmer]

Punctureseal is rated to 150 mph.
 
It's also considered as a permanent repair
 
I've spoken to happy customers on zzr1400s and the like who swear by it  

[ChristoT]

Punctureseal is rated to 150 mph.
 
It's also considered as a permanent repair
 
I've spoken to happy customers on zzr1400s and the like who swear by it

Why 

Are you 

So shocked by this? 

 

[Hedgetrimmer]

Punctureseal is rated to 150 mph.
 
It's also considered as a permanent repair
 
I've spoken to happy customers on zzr1400s and the like who swear by it

Why 

Are you 

So shocked by this? 

 

Because it's one of those gloopy/slimey type pre-puncture treatments that everyone hates so much!
And actually, now the stuff has come back to mind, next time I change my tyres, I think I'll use it

[Strifae]

I had Puncturesafe in my old FZS600, I had a big sharp stone pierce the tyre but not overly bad - I didn't even notice till I checked my tyre and found a pink-ish slime where the hole was, the tyre was fine for another 4000 miles - really good.
 
I now have Crafty Plugger and haven't had to use it yet. I would use Puncturesafe again though if I could be bothered to buy it / put it in my tyres hehe
 
I have been riding for 5 years and have racked up around 60,000 miles in total (would be more but don't ride my FZ1 nearly as much as I rode my 600 - don't commute by bike anymore) and I only ever had the one mentioned above and 1 nail which I picked up 2 weeks after passing my test.
 
Don't know if I am lucky or what, but doesn't seem that normal to have them lots.

[Hedgetrimmer]

You say Puncturesafe Strifae, I believe they actually changed the name to Punctureseal, but same thing? Looking at the link I posted above, the bottle shown for the motorcycle one is pretty much as I remember it.
 
Oops, no, obviously other way round!

[AyJay]

Punctureseal is rated to 150 mph.
 
It's also considered as a permanent repair
 
I've spoken to happy customers on zzr1400s and the like who swear by it

Oddly enough, I was on my ZZR1400 when this happened. And until you have a catastrophic deflation just as you pull in front of an artic, you really haven't lived. Sod track days, that really got my adrenaline pumping.


And as for 150mph on the stuff. Hahahaha.


No.

[Hedgetrimmer]

But AyJay, you are talking about Slime, or maybe Goop. Puncturesafe I promise you is in an altogether different league. This stuff really does work. As I mentioned, at my last place of work, we sold it by the cartload and never had a bad bit of feedback. It was certainly enough to convince me. But only on this particular product.

[AyJay]

But shurely it's dependent on the puncture, Nick.


I pointed out to the idiot AA man that the nail was dead centre in the tread and could be pulled back and forth as it wasn't exactly a tight fit. 'Oh, it'll be fine' the dickhead said.


And when the nail came out, so did the Slime. I doubt any liquid fix could have plugged the hole. It was too big. I don't know what kind of punctures can be fixed with PunctureSeal, but it wasn't this one. It wasn't that big a nail either.


I really should have just trusted my instincts and told the guy he was an idiot there and then. The AA stumped up a hundred quid to fix the dent in my rear wheel, you know. I hit a lump of wood careering onto the hard shoulder.

[Hedgetrimmer]

Puncturesafe (sorry, I've been getting names muddled up as at some point they did change the name) say it will plug (permanently) punctures up to 6mm. They also claim that it will give a controlled deflation on a blowout with larger holes. They state on the packaging that it is rated up to 150 mph - probably meaning the limit after a puncture has been sealed. Many of our customers (Waltham Cross Motorcycles at the time - check with Andy Boulton there, I'm sure he'll confirm for you) told us how good it was, how it saved them from potential disasters and large bills for recovery and repairs and how even after having punctures they continued with the affected tyres until they had worn to replacement time. They also claim prolonged tyre life for reasons given on their website - check the link above, it's all there. I wouldn't trust Goop, Slime etc either, but this one I would and will.

[AyJay]

Hmm. I must check it out. Those are some claims .. .. Cheers, Nick.

[VNA - BMW Wank]

Cheers Nick

Might get one of those crafty plugger kits.

What about CO2 air canisters?  Any suggestions?